So set on payback?

NaughtyusMaximus

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As I read these forums, I find it hard to believe that it seems most people are set on getting blood for what was lost. The US has preached for years that diplomacy should be used before military in situations like this, and though many times it has done little good, that (morally) should be the route that is taken. No, I'm not saying that the US should talk to the perpetrators and come to a fair punishment by asking them how they would like to be spanked. I'm saying that perhaps it should not be out of the question that the US will want to solve this problem peacefully, and try to set an example of how to deal with issues like this to others who would fire missles at first warning of danger.

Maybe I'm just a crazy Canadian, but I don't see why more people should die as a result of this - and I hope that once people's anger dies down most of you will feel the same.
 

Kraeji

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We have been ATTACKED. Does that not look like WAR to yoU????? Not just our military but THOUSANDS of CIVILLIANS are DEAD...
 

aUt0eXebat

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what should be do? say oh hey everyone makes mistakes we forgive you? and its all good? no! there must consiquences for what they did wrong, and how else to punish them then attacking them? we can spanks there butts or takeaway there oil or what not
 

FJ

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Ummm, excuse me, you don't see "why more people should die as a result of this"? What about those that masterminded this plan, or do you think they peacefully go away and stopped killing people? Would you have said that to the Jews about Hitler?

I think no more INNOCENT people should die as a result... The perpetrators are a whole other story...

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Windogg

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What? Invite them over and disuss it over a few Molsons? Please Mr. Terrorist, we'll let you walkaway if you promise and not be a bad boy anymore.

The time for diplomacy has passed and the time for action has come.
 

shiner

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Make no mistake this is war and we should respond in kind. The only thing those people understand is violence and fear so it's time we show them what it's like to be terrified and on the receiving end of some Superpower whoop ass.
 

NaughtyusMaximus

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War agains't WHO? It was a terrorist attack. Of course, I should have expected to get childish responses. No, I'm not saying that those responsible should be invited over for a little cup of tea and maybe a crumpet or two. I'm saying that there is no need to kill more civilians. Find those responsible, their leaders, and hold a world court. Let democracy find sutable punishment. Show the world that the US practices what it preaches.
 

aUt0eXebat

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yes, take them to court, and get 50-life in jail, and possibly be broken out of jail by someone. Death for death
 

spaceman

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thousands of people have died!


Its easy to sit up there in Canada and make judgements about how the US should handle this.


Diplomacy ended when jets crashed into the world trade center.
:|
 

FJ

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Naughtyus Maximus said:
War agains't WHO? It was a terrorist attack. Of course, I should have expected to get childish responses. No, I'm not saying that those responsible should be invited over for a little cup of tea and maybe a crumpet or two. I'm saying that there is no need to kill more civilians. Find those responsible, their leaders, and hold a world court. Let democracy find sutable punishment. Show the world that the US practices what it preaches.

Um, so they won't be killed if they are found guilty? As far as I know, when the US is in a state of war, the death sentence can be handed out... Wouldn't that be more death?

You've really got to clarify what you mean...

I was expecting more than a childish post (Some of your own medicine)....

Hmmm, that was probably uncalled for... Maybe I should go to sleep...

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Optimus

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NaughtyusMaximus:

Its more complicated than that - what do we do when those responsible are out of reach because a country over in the middle east are protecting, hiding, and harbouring them?

That is what is happening - and that is where force against that country will likely be necessary.
 

mk52

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NaughtyusMaximus

Everybody is still very shocked so dont expect any rational commets.

I saw everything with my own eyes and it still gives me the shakes when I think about it.


Wait till all the anger settles and people start thinking more rational.
I also dont think killing more civilians will do any good.
But if those who are responsible dont get out of there holes than their whole country will have to pay the price...
 

althor27

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I think we should keep bombing and bombing and bombing them until nothing is left but a smoking crater. Then bomb them some more. THEY WILL PAY.
 

AlfredWhite

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What's funny is that Bin Laden has been on top of the US Most Wanted list for a while, yet you somehow think that because of this we'll catch him very easily.

The man is as slippery as the oil that made him rich. The US will be searching for quite a while before they even have a clue where he is. Swift retaliation that some of you are calling for is a nice fairy tale, but it's not an option because the US is clueless as to his whereabouts.

The only immediate gratification Americans will get is the arrest of some of Bin Laden's hoodlums in the US, nothing more.
 

pulse8

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If what happened yesterday resulted from a terrorist in the middle east, then retaliation is completely necessary. We've tried to resolve things in the middle east and we've tried to do it peacefully. The way they attacked us was worse and more people are dead than any fighting that's gone on between Israel and Palastine in a long time. It was unprompted and, in my opinion, unwarranted. We should most definitely retaliate with nothing less than than what they did to us.
 

GroteKat

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It may be easy for me to say, being in Europe and all, but find the ****ers, bomb their sorry ass!

If you have to bomb the nation that has Bin Laden, bomb the freakin nation. Kill 'm all!!!
 

shiner

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Swift retaliation is possible. If we find out that it was Osma Bin Laden then we tell Afghanistan "you have 48 hours to turn him over to U.S. authorities. If you do not do so your country will be wiped off the map." If it takes destroying countries to bring the terrorists to justice then so be it. Start paying whack-a-mole with some of these terrorists supporting countries and Bin Laden will have no place to run because nobody will want him in their spot of the globe. This is not the time to be playing Mr. Nice guy, this is the time to go Old Testament on these people's worthless hides.
 

Bob/NYC

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War is not pretty, as these ragnecks have shown us. Best to boycott their businesses and celebrate the US' defensive strikes. All arab nations appear united and none have offered any help.

All arab nations are responsible!
 

Aelus

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shinerburke, you're talking about the country which the soviet army didn't manage to control, and you're expecting a bunch of poor equipped soldiers which only own a bunch of ak47's to find him?

they deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Aelus
 

ERJ

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Afgan has claimed that Osama bin Laden could not have done it, based on the fact that they took all this communications equipment away. I think they know where he is.

ERJ
 

shiner

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The Taliban know excatly where Bin Laden is hiding and they have said so in the past. They have also said that they can control him....seems to me that you need to know where someone is in order to control them.
 

Bob/NYC

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Bin Laden is highly funded by many racist arab nations, in the wide conspiracy. Therefore, he isn't the only one who has declared war 9/11 against the USA. They used no court of justice and deserve the same, by their own rules.
 

NaughtyusMaximus

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I'm all for punishment of those involved - but punishing civilians (be it by bombing their country or otherwise) simply makes America a very powerful terrorist.
 
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