So tell me again, why was Obama so bad?

[bradly1101]

Aside from dropping the campaign promise to include a publicly funded option in "Obamacare," what makes him such a bad president? He was met with obstruction on almost everything. Can't a guy catch a break?

His list of presidential accomplishments can easily be found, but he had to go it alone a lot:

http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/

So what are the bad things?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

They're bad things if you want a smaller Government like many of the Conservative voices around here. Honestly they'd be pretty happy with any President doing nothing.

 

[brycejones]

1. Not a US citizen, we gave the highest office in the land to an illegal immigrant.
2. He is a Muslim
3. He he is a radical white hating christian.
4. He gave Hillary access to the time machine to kill Vince Foster and replace his briefcase with one containing only the white pages from 2014.
5. He setup FEMA camps to force gun owners to get gay married.
6. He hates white people because he is black.
7. He hates black people because he isn't really black.
8. He banned guns in the US
9. He took away all guns in the US

Or because reasons!

 

[bradly1101]

1. Not a US citizen, we gave the highest office in the land to an illegal immigrant.
2. He is a Muslim
3. He he is a radical white hating christian.
4. He gave Hillary access to the time machine to kill Vince Foster and replace his briefcase with one containing only the white pages from 2014.
5. He setup FEMA camps to force gun owners to get gay married.
6. He hates white people because he is black.
7. He hates black people because he isn't really black.
8. He banned guns in the US
9. He took away all guns in the US

Or because reasons!

Oh yeah, brain fart, what was I thinking? ;-)
(that was good!)

 

[shortylickens]

Took the national debt to mind-numbing heights and didnt actually solve any major problems.

 

[bradly1101]

Took the national debt to mind-numbing heights and didnt actually solve any major problems.

Do you think he'd have done more about both had there been anything like cooperation in Washington?

 

[trenchfoot]

The trouble (advantage) with going it alone is that it doesn't require the approval of the Repub controlled House and Senate, thus bypassing the "impenetrable" blockade the Repubs put up around the White House.

That pretty much laid waste to the Repubs branding Obama as "the do nothing president" as well as infuriating the Repubs in Congress who tried their utmost to actually force him to be the "do nothing president" that they accused him of being yet failed in embarrassing fashion.

IMO, if it weren't for the Repub's strategy of total obstructionism, Obama would have had a lot more leverage against the health insurance companies when he and the Dems were cobbling together the ACA such that the program would have yielded much better results for the folks who really needed it and would have been much more affordable than it is now for everyone else.

As it was though, the Repub's opposition practically gave the health insurance industry the ability to virtually write themselves in as the prime beneficiaries of the program rather than the working class Americans it was meant to help.

Aside from that, the only problem I see that Obama had was that he was reaching across the aisle way too often and getting his fingernails pulled out every time he did it.

For a time those "agreements" that he and Harry Reid made with the Repubs invariably gave the Repubs "98% of what they wanted" thus short changing the middle class and the poor every time they shook hands.

 

[sportage]

He wasn't Mitt Romney.
That really pissed em off.

 

[John Connor]

I'll just name a few at the risk of being quote-crapped by the typical progressive crowd in this P&N.

1) Shovel ready jobs. LMFAO!

2) Cash for clunkers. LMFAO!

3) Solyndra and all the other "green jobs" that went belly up. LMFAO!

4) 400 million sent to Iran. LMFAO!

5) 1 job created for every 8,000. LMFAO!

6) A whopping 94.7 MILLION! out of work. LMFAO!

7) Obozocare where you have to pay a fine if you don't have insurance. Meanwhile insurance companies are going belly up, employers have cut hours and the damn website cost... drum roll please, 834 MILLION!

8) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMo0WlSvrIY

9) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1DO388jsf8

10) Being an overall progressive, far-left, grabass, pathetic, dick and ¾.

Happy?



Change We Can Believe In!

 

[blankslate]

Given the caucus room conspiracy (traitorous bastards in my mind) he wasn't that bad....

However, his current support for the TPP just boggles the mind at this moment.


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[IronWing]

Conservatives are very sore losers. If they lose, they want to burn it down. Remember, it was sore loser conservatives that started the Civil War resulting in the deaths of more than 600,000 Americans.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Do you think he'd have done more about both had there been anything like cooperation in Washington?

Obama had a mandate and a strong campaign message. He is a brilliant campaigner and speaker but stumbled a bit when he pivoted to President.

He won as a referendum to the Neo Con agenda, with our meddling in the ME being front and center.

I believe he should have gained momentum and goodwill before talking health care. He should have built momentum, took that momentum into the midterm elections to help reshape Congress and then took on health care.

He wasn't bad but hope and change quickly became more of the same

 

[John Connor]

Conservatives are very sore losers. If they lose, they want to burn it down. Remember, it was sore loser conservatives that started the Civil War resulting in the deaths of more than 600,000 Americans.

Wow, yeah, the Democrats wanted to maintain slavery. The Republican party was created by Lincoln. But you know what? I'm going to bookmark this page because if, that's a big IF Trump makes it in the lefestest will riot. I shit you not. They are in fact the real definition of sore losers.

 

[Jaskalas]

However, his current support for the TPP just boggles the mind at this moment.

It shouldn't. He quickly became a Wall Street President.
His idea of bowing to academia and authority is to place billionaires in charge.

 

[fskimospy]

Obama had a mandate and a strong campaign message. He is a brilliant campaigner and speaker but stumbled a bit when he pivoted to President.

He won as a referendum to the Neo Con agenda, with our meddling in the ME being front and center.

I believe he should have gained momentum and goodwill before talking health care. He should have built momentum, took that momentum into the midterm elections to help reshape Congress and then took on health care.

He wasn't bad but hope and change quickly became more of the same

How would he have gone about 'building momentum'?

 

[IronWing]

Wow, yeah, the Democrats wanted to maintain slavery. The Republican party was created by Lincoln. But you know what? I'm going to bookmark this page because if, that's a big IF Trump makes it in the lefestest will riot. I shit you not. They are in fact the real definition of sore losers.

Correct, the conservative Democrats started the Civil War. Conservatives are very sore losers. When privilege is threatened, they get violent.

 

[John Connor]

Correct, the conservative Democrats started the Civil War. Conservatives are very sore losers. When privilege is threatened, they get violent.

You don't know history dude. Lincoln created the modern Republican party.

Actually, it was Amos something, but Lincoln is often credited. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

 

[fskimospy]

You don't know history dude. Lincoln created the modern Republican party.

Actually, it was Amos something, but Lincoln is often credited. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

He does in fact know his history and you could learn something from him. The people fighting to keep slavery in 1861 were conservatives, and the world is much better off because in that case conservatism was defeated. The party label is irrelevant.

 

[IronWing]

You don't know history dude. Lincoln created the modern Republican party.

Actually, it was Amos something, but Lincoln is often credited. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

McCarthy, Goldwater, Nixon, Atwater, and Gingrich built the modern Republican Party. Lincoln had nothing to do with this mess.

 

[Meghan54]

Wow, yeah, the Democrats wanted to maintain slavery. The Republican party was created by Lincoln. But you know what? I'm going to bookmark this page because if, that's a big IF Trump makes it in the lefestest will riot. I shit you not. They are in fact the real definition of sore losers.

Since it was liberal Democrats and not conservatives (which is what you're implying in your version of history) that wanted to perpetuate slavery, where did all those liberal Democrats go? When did the massive population shift happen? Millions of liberals must've left the South and millions of conservatives migrated into the South....exactly when?

 

[John Connor]

Since it was liberal Democrats and not conservatives (which is what you're implying in your version of history) that wanted to perpetuate slavery, where did all those liberal Democrats go? When did the massive population shift happen? Millions of liberals must've left the South and millions of conservatives migrated into the South....exactly when?

Doesn't really matter, does it?

 

[brycejones]

Doesn't really matter, does it?

And Connor has nothing.

 

[DrPizza]

Took the national debt to mind-numbing heights and didnt actually solve any major problems.

When the government spends more money than it takes in, the national debt increases. To keep this simple so you can understand it,
Last year of Bush, income = $100, spending $160.
Obama brought that down to income = $110, spending $120.
Yes, the national debt is still going up, but not as fast as it was going up when Bush was in office. You can't just walk into office and say, "hey, we're going to stop paying for these two wars we're in." And you certainly don't say, "hey, let's go to war AND cut taxes. That'll work out good." (Bush)

 

[Jhhnn]

It shouldn't. He quickly became a Wall Street President.
His idea of bowing to academia and authority is to place billionaires in charge.

Gawd. Have you forgotten what was happening when he took office? The real threat of financial sector collapse & descent of the Economy to Great Depression levels?

The #1 priority was to prevent that, which meant working with them rather than against them. The moment that Repubs obtained a blocking position in congress further reform became impossible.

Screwed? We were screwed years before he took office in the top down class warfare looting spree known as the Ownership Society. The true Bush constituency had already won, one way or another. We could have had looting & burning a la the early 30's or looting & tribute, tribute we're still paying in ways subtle and profound.

 

[bradly1101]

It shouldn't. He quickly became a Wall Street President.
His idea of bowing to academia and authority is to place billionaires in charge.

I'll bet Wall Street wasn't happy about Dodd-Frank.