So the girl i spent close to $2000 decides to break it off with me.. 2k in 4 months.. I hate women...

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LongAce

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: WayneTeK
Originally posted by: LongAce
From what I see, she's never had a boyfriend before and most likely she's scared to have one or to get in an emotional relationship. I really think she's confused because the feelings she has, she might not have ever felt before this making run away. Give it time but not too much time. She needs to get her head settled and she'll figure things out.

so you're telling me there IS a possibility???

No, there's no possibility. Well, maybe if you were the last two people on the planet you might have a chance.

BTW-I kissed my now wife on our second date and I think I had maybe $40 invested in the relationship at that point.

He will always have a chance. You might just need to leave her be and only time will tell. I can't really yes or no but I do think she's a little confused.
 

blahblah99

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You should have gotten the clue
back in this thread..

Anyway, with that said it seems like the girl you spent $2000 on doesn't want the kind of guy that you are - she wants the jerk, hard to get, egotistical, treats girls like sh!t, CONFIDENT, cocky, and aggressive kind of man.

EDIT: NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER spend ANY money for a girl. Maybe pay for the initial date, but THATS IT. The more you put out in the beginning, the more she expects as time goes on. Buy her a $100 bouquet of flowers on the first week and she'll expect a watch on your one month anniversary!

You're lucky she broke it off... other girls would have sucked you dry. She did you a favor - thank her and get over that.
 

IEC

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: loki8481
damn. you were pwned.

it was your choice to spend the money, though, so why complain about it?

You're allowed to bitch about it for about 48 hours. But most people bitch to their friends...

We're the ATOT community. Come on, we're more like family Well, at least some of us are... :|
 
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I have a friend just like you. He showers women with attention, gifts, compliments, etc...he shows them nothing but respect and admiration. He spends 90% of his time trying to emulate the guy he thinks all women want. He constantly tries to play the friend angle and becomes very bitter to every woman in his life when they inevitably give him the cold shoulder or the friend speech. He gets so frustrated because he doesn't understand why he isn't pursued by women. He has no female friends, because he has tried to become romantic with all of them. He uses these rejections to become an even 'more perfect guy'. He is not fun to be around, and anyone who talks to him for 5 minutes knows he has no idea who he is and that he has an eternal PR social mask. Every atypical nice guy I know is like him, and you, in some respect. The bottom line is this...straight women don't like pu$$y, you do. So stop being one if you ever want to enjoy female companionship.
 

Mr. Lennon

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Originally posted by: GiggityGiggity
I have a friend just like you. He showers women with attention, gifts, compliments, etc...he shows them nothing but respect and admiration. He spends 90% of his time trying to emulate the guy he thinks all women want. He constantly tries to play the friend angle and becomes very bitter to every woman in his life when they inevitably give him the cold shoulder or the friend speech. He gets so frustrated because he doesn't understand why he isn't pursued by women. He has no female friends, because he has tried to become romantic with all of them. He uses these rejections to become an even 'more perfect guy'. He is not fun to be around, and anyone who talks to him for 5 minutes knows he has no idea who he is and that he has an eternal PR social mask. Every atypical nice guy I know is like him, and you, in some respect. The bottom line is this...straight women don't like pu$$y, you do. So stop being one if you ever want to enjoy female companionship.

He has spoken the truth.
 

opticalmace

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Originally posted by: EGGO
Holy crap, 2k in 4 months? I've been with my girlfriend for almost 2 years (2 more months ) and I haven't nearly spent $400 on her.

As for the post, hopefully this will prove to you that commitments shouldn't be made suddenly. I'm not saying that you should go into a relationship expecting a break-up, I'm just saying that you should not really get so...committed.

wtf 2 years and less than $400?
are you 15?
 

WayneTeK

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Originally posted by: El Gimpo Suave
Having spent more than my share of cash on women , the best advice i can offer is that you shouldnt look at the money you spend as an investment. When you "spend money on a women " it should be for an immediate experience , mutual enjoyment. In other words... if you take her out for an expensive dinner ,only to impress her, rather than to a place you yourself would enjoy. dont cry when you dont get some other payoff to justify the expense. I was wondering...you were picking her up every week and spending money on her (those flowers and gifts) BEFORE you were together for five days? I have to say that you send HUGE mixed messages when you throw THAT much attention(BTW the time is worth more than the cash if she thinks anything of you at all) at a woman without making your intentions clear. She'll take you for granted without intending to. I'm thinking that , to her , you become some sort of broken emotional ATM machine that kicks out cash every time she walks past ,without costing her anything . You should have made a move sooner before you "put out" like you did. I hope you understand that for most girls thats exactly what you did . Sorry to go on here but as a nerd myself i feel some empathy for other nerds who still dont know that in front of a chic (99% of the time)...
1) you must never talk about Dungeons & Dragons (HIDE your monstrous compendium and miniatures)
2) you dont know how to say anything in klingon ( better yet if star trek EVER comes up you say "the new one or the old one?" NOT
" I think Wesley Crusher ruined any chance next gen. had of overtaking Kirk's "macho space cowboy" with Picard's "brilliant warrior
poet" )
3) No computer-nerd feng shui in the bedroom. Your gaming pc is not an appropriate gravitational center (picture an orbiting belt of dirty
dishes, soda bottles and Krispy Kreme boxes) for a room in which you want to get it on with a chic. I've been told by plenty of ladies
that a clean, somewhat organised bedroom has a HUGE effect on your chances of getting anywhere with her. Find another room for
the computer toys if possible, where its not you should hide/disguise/organise your rig. Anything else reeks of late night porno
downloading sessions(if shes into that buy her a ring A.S.A.P.)
4) No T-Shirts with jokes or sayings on them as a part of your regular wardrobe.
5) If she meets your friends(im assuming they are fellow nerds) there must be NO conversations composed entirely of simpsons
references.
6) Speaking of friends ,if you think shes relationship material, she should be isolated from your nerd friends until you are SURE
she likes you and her idea of you is relatively well established(beyond the bounds of being found a "nerd by association")

just some thoughts from a fellow nerd

i'm not a nerd though... =P

 

WayneTeK

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Originally posted by: LongAce
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: WayneTeK
Originally posted by: LongAce
From what I see, she's never had a boyfriend before and most likely she's scared to have one or to get in an emotional relationship. I really think she's confused because the feelings she has, she might not have ever felt before this making run away. Give it time but not too much time. She needs to get her head settled and she'll figure things out.

so you're telling me there IS a possibility???

No, there's no possibility. Well, maybe if you were the last two people on the planet you might have a chance.

BTW-I kissed my now wife on our second date and I think I had maybe $40 invested in the relationship at that point.

He will always have a chance. You might just need to leave her be and only time will tell. I can't really yes or no but I do think she's a little confused.


time makes the heart grow fonder...
 

WayneTeK

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Originally posted by: blahblah99
You should have gotten the clue
back in this thread..

Anyway, with that said it seems like the girl you spent $2000 on doesn't want the kind of guy that you are - she wants the jerk, hard to get, egotistical, treats girls like sh!t, CONFIDENT, cocky, and aggressive kind of man.

EDIT: NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER spend ANY money for a girl. Maybe pay for the initial date, but THATS IT. The more you put out in the beginning, the more she expects as time goes on. Buy her a $100 bouquet of flowers on the first week and she'll expect a watch on your one month anniversary!

You're lucky she broke it off... other girls would have sucked you dry. She did you a favor - thank her and get over that.


i dont' understand why girls like those cocky, aggressive, egotistical type of guys... i guess in many respects, i am lucky she broke it off...... i would have never done it.... i guess she saved me lots of $$$ in the long run.
 

WayneTeK

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Originally posted by: ariafrost
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: loki8481
damn. you were pwned.

it was your choice to spend the money, though, so why complain about it?

You're allowed to bitch about it for about 48 hours. But most people bitch to their friends...

We're the ATOT community. Come on, we're more like family Well, at least some of us are... :|


no, you guys ARE family..
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: WayneTeK
Originally posted by: blahblah99
You should have gotten the clue
back in this thread..

Anyway, with that said it seems like the girl you spent $2000 on doesn't want the kind of guy that you are - she wants the jerk, hard to get, egotistical, treats girls like sh!t, CONFIDENT, cocky, and aggressive kind of man.

EDIT: NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER spend ANY money for a girl. Maybe pay for the initial date, but THATS IT. The more you put out in the beginning, the more she expects as time goes on. Buy her a $100 bouquet of flowers on the first week and she'll expect a watch on your one month anniversary!

You're lucky she broke it off... other girls would have sucked you dry. She did you a favor - thank her and get over that.


i dont' understand why girls like those cocky, aggressive, egotistical type of guys... i guess in many respects, i am lucky she broke it off...... i would have never done it.... i guess she saved me lots of $$$ in the long run.
Because women love drama... how would you like to be slathered with love and affection 100% of the time? Wouldn't it get old? Women want someone who will change the channel every now and then, not a one dimensional sociopath. Women need someone who can occasionally bring out the slut in them, and play the bad boy role. It's a part of evolution, women will choose the man who isn't scared to fight, protect and stand up for them (i.e. not be a pssy) and usually like men who are confident and sure of themselves more times than not. After all, who is more likely to shoot the bear dead square between the eyes, the man who is sure of himself or the pssy who has never touched a gun, let alone quake in his boots and freeze with fear in that situation? Evolution.

 

Doboji

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Originally posted by: WayneTeK




EDIT#2: I think i was more attached than anything else...?


EDIT#1: Ultimately, i hope she regrets her decision one day.... I hope so........ and then thinks back to the good times we had and how i treated her right.


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So after spending $2000 on this girl and driving every week to pick her up, treat her right, sending roses to her workplace, and surprising her with little gifts every now and then, I am left in the dark... She broke it off with me in 5 days after we got together. I cannot believe she pulled this stunt on me.. I'm sort of disappointed in her decision because i truly did like her and i would've done anything for her, yet she still didnt' feel the same way about me. I'm soo bitter...

And worse of all, i didnt' even kiss her yet. But perhaps it was better i didnt' kiss her because it might make me even more attached? Ladies, can you please shed some light on this issue about the kiss?

Here is the email she sent me.


Hi. I'm thinking you probably don't want to talk to me right now, so
that's why I'm writing you an email. I feel really awful that you
didn't get any closure from our conversation last night, so I'm going
to try my best to give that to you. I don't really know where to
start, so I'll just use Waterfront Hilton because that seems like a good
reference point.

Like I said last night, I really wanted to like you as more than just
a friend, so that's why at Waterfront I said we were dating and not
just friends. I guess I did lead you on from that point and it's
really just selfishness on my part. I wanted to keep dating you
because you're everything I look for in a guy. Unfortunately, there
are very few people like you out there and because of that, I honestly
thought that if I just let you go I would never find someone as
genuinely nice as you. I already knew, before you told me, that you
would do anything for me, which made staying with you even more
appealing. It amazed me that someone can actually like me that much
and I liked that (not that I'd ever had the intention of telling you
to do stuff for me).

I actually contemplated on whether or not to just be your girlfriend
and hope that as time progressed, I could see you as more than just a
friend. But that would just be evil of me to make you like me even
more and then break it off (in the event that my feelings didn't
change towards you). I don't think you fully understand just how much
I want to get over the "seeing-you-as-just-a-friend" hump. The sad
thing is, there's really nothing you nor I can do to change that. I
just want to tell you that, literally, it's not you but me. I know
you think 'how can I see you as just a friend when we weren't close
friends to begin with', but I don't think people have to be great
friends to see one another as just a friend.

I apologize for hurting you, wasting your time, and deferring you from
your school work. I really liked going out with you and if it seemed
that I wasn't excited about
going out with you, I apologize for that too. I'm also sorry for
making you backtrack on your 3 goals for the year. I know you
probably have all these walls built now for the next girl to break
down and I'm really sorry to put you in that position.

Per our conversation last night, I did indeed tell your friend that I never
had a boyfriend because I can't see myself with only that one guy.
However, I don't think that applies to you because it's not the 'being
solely with you' that comes to question, it's seeing you as a romantic
partner, not just a friend. I know you want an explanation as to WHY
I can't see you as more than just a friend. But the truth is, I just
can't...there is no explanation. I think there's just this barrier
that's blocking the chemistry between us. There are no secret hidden meanings behind what I
say.

I don't know what else to say. You can accept what you want from this
email. I hope reading this doesn't make you even more
mad/disappointed/bitter/upset because that would defeat the whole
purpose of closure. I hope you get your broker license...take care
and don't go changing because you make a great boyfriend just the way
you are.

~NAME HAS BEEN REMOVED TO PROTECT THIS WITCH


So what does this letter mean? Does this letter make her sound even more of a money grubber/selfish gal or perhaps i'm wrong about her?

I really don't want to let her go though.. she's sooo special to me. i love everything about her from the way she laughs, talks, cuteness, cleanliness, personality... she is soo observant as well.. her intelligence, grace... i also love how she has this cute grin when she misses a shot after playing pool... i love how she is so sweet at times... but she pulls this stunt on me out of nowhere... i just realized she wasn't the cute bunny in the cage, but more like a snake... :brokenheart:

should i not give up on her and still pursue this issue or just drop it? i feel like if i dont' give it my ABSOULTE all, i'll lose a good thing in my life... her.


AHHHHHH YOU WERE THE HOLDING HANDS THREAD GUY!!!!!

She broke up with you because you are not a man. Women like men... you could barely hold the girls hand... what did you offer her in terms of being a man. It's really a very simple concept... Women want to be swept off their feet in more ways than just buying them stuff. You have shown 0 confident manliness.... no wonder she dumped you.

Drink some beer, watch some football, go to a few strip joints, try and develop some testicles... then try again...

AND STOP BEING SO GAWDAMNED FOCUSED ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SPEND.

-Max
 

mastarecoil

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Here is the lesson to learn. Dont spend more than $20 on a girl til you get laid. Trust me, $5 in cheap vodka will do the trick.
 

flawlssdistortn

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Originally posted by: WayneTeK
ok, i'm pretty much over her now. i realize there are other girls out there that can make me feel better. all she was to me was a physical attachment, not an emotional one. thansk guys.

Hey man, first of all, you gotta stop needing her so much. Secondly, the fact that you think other girls will make you feel better automatically kills your chances of getting one. Yes, you're too "nice". Not nice as in kind, nice as in doormat. Women want confidence, which is different from being "cocky and egotistical." Once you figure out who you are (and it's ok to be a nerd, most of us here are):beer:, and once you learn to accept that... Then that natural confidence will radiate from you and women will see that.
 

Falloutboy

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yup sounds like what happend to my roommate. chick just came off a bad break, needed a place to live and someone to give her money so she led him on for 6 mounths then broke it off when she found someone better.

he never got any
he never even kissed her
pissed me off and a lot of his friends for beeing so stupid (we all saw what was happening)
and he was out a crap load of money and was an emotional wreck when she broke it off and acted like they were just "friends" the whole time.
 

sxr7171

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I'm sorry this happened to you, but overall it just looks like she tried to see if there was chemistry in it but I guess she realized that there wasn't any. This sort of thing happens in relationships at the beginning sometimes when people try to look for the chemistry and sometimes it just isn't there. This is not your fault or hers, it's just one of those things that you can't explain. A relationship without chemistry is pointless so really there is no point in keeping it going.

To be honest you should thank her for telling you as soon as she did, because a lot of girls would have kept it going on for the money you spent on her and maybe even cheat on you while you pay for everything. I know sucks to hear but you can only blame yourself for your financial loss, she didn't ask you spend all that money and while money can make a relationship go smoother you can't really "buy" a woman. You should have some sort of control over how much you invest in a relationship in terms of time, emotional involvement and money. If you don't get for example get kissed by your second or third date then you really have to cut off on any further investment of time, money and emotion.

By the way don't wait for the woman to tell you to kiss her or ask her, you should know when you two are comfortable enough to just get closer to her and kiss her. This is usually when you find yourselves hugging a lot and getting close physically a lot. You have to take control in these situations or there will be no chemistry. Another thing, spending too much too soon is actually quite unattractive to most girls because it makes them feel like you need to buy them, while you should be confident enough to "sell yourself" without going overboard with money. Take her out and show her a good time, but don't go crazy with the flowers or gifts. You shouldn't even be giving gifts or flowers to a girl that you haven't kissed (or more) yet. Going overboard on money sort of smells of desperation and no girl finds that attractive.

I'm sure this is more than you wanted to read, but it will help you so do with it what you want. You'll be fine next time.
 

jpthomas

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Since you are in Los Angeles, turn the radio on to FM 97.1 between 3pm and 8pm M-F and listen to the Tom Leykis show. I think listening to him will really show you where you went wrong and what you need to do next time. Thats the best advice I can give.
 

Red Dawn

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Goes to prove that money can't buy love..well unless you have millions! Just be glad she had a conscience and didn't soak you for more. I know plenty of suckers who were taken to the cleaners by Gold Diggers!
 
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