so there's an asian guy in the NBA that's not 8 ft tall?

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al981

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So you are "measuring" this by what exactly? Points on the scoreboard don't matter according to you. Player's performance doesn't matter according to you. What exactly can you base it on?

sure points on the scoreboard matter. along with the observations and events contributing to the score, all of which you've conveniently ignored because it exposes the mental midget weaknesses of your favorite player.
 

darkxshade

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The way I look at it, the kid studies film during halftime. He's dedicated and has a good work ethic, no doubt inherited during his time at Harvard, maybe even before. Any inabilities or weaknesses that he has now he's still discovering everyday since coming off the bench but it won't last very long. If not now, he'll certainly work hard to improve in those areas in the offseason. His story is what makes him loved but the adversities he had to overcome is what makes him great and it will continue to get better now that he has the attention and resources to work on the areas he's lacking.
 

HendrixFan

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funny, you weren't saying jack the first four games when he was finishing just fine. you mad that i destroyed any credibility you had? been the trend in multiple threads. yeah, you mad!

oh and sunday LOL: LOL at you changing your stance after the best pg of all time compared lin to nash.

I didn't see any of his first four games. Him going 8-24 isn't finishing, that is the topic of discussion right now. What he shot in his first few games isn't. If you want to say his performance last night wasn't on par with his previous games you would be correct. But to say he was destroying guys last night isn't.

I said he has a good game, that doesn't mean I change my stance of him being one of the greatest point guards of all time. Are you trolling or really that dense?

Go back to the NBA thread and look at my predictions for this season. I picked the Knicks to go to the ECF ahead of the Bulls. I haven't wavered on that prediction because I knew they were decent PG play away from that kind of run. BDiddy would be competent enough to carry that torch. The emerging option of him or Lin bodes well for my prediction. I don't think he's a bad player, but I don't think he is an All Star in a stacked PG league right now, muchless a HOFer.
 

HendrixFan

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sure points on the scoreboard matter. along with the observations and events contributing to the score, all of which you've conveniently ignored because it exposes the mental midget weaknesses of your favorite player.

So what are you basis for it then? What observations? What weaknesses? You speak in such vague terminology on this matter, and anything I do to present data to refute said vague assertions are only met with mocking that trying to quantify it is silly. So, why don't you tell me what you mean and how you arrive to that conclusion?
 

al981

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So what are you basis for it then? What observations? What weaknesses? You speak in such vague terminology on this matter, and anything I do to present data to refute said vague assertions are only met with mocking that trying to quantify it is silly. So, why don't you tell me what you mean and how you arrive to that conclusion?

here's your homework assignment. go back to last year's nba thread, and read what all the mavs fans on this board wrote during the finals. then again, you know what i'm talking about, but you continue sticking to your boxscore only arguments.
 

HendrixFan

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You could say that about any hard fought finals...
In the end there can be only one. :biggrin:

The Mavs earned it, they played one of the better runs through the playoffs we have seen in years. Saying the Heat choked it away invalidates claims that the Mavs earned it. Like you said, it was a hard fought finals, not the kind of thing you normally associate with choking.
 

HendrixFan

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and that's all that needs to be said, folks.

what a liar and a clown.

I don't need to watch someone play four games to know that it is utterly moronic to claim someone is better than a HOFer and one of the greatest of all time at their position.
 

al981

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I don't need to watch someone play four games to know that it is utterly moronic to claim someone is better than a HOFer and one of the greatest of all time at their position.

yeah we know, you're a piss poor analyst and don't watch games, only boxscores. we established that last year.
 

slayer202

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Go back to the NBA thread and look at my predictions for this season. I picked the Knicks to go to the ECF ahead of the Bulls. I haven't wavered on that prediction because I knew they were decent PG play away from that kind of run. BDiddy would be competent enough to carry that torch. The emerging option of him or Lin bodes well for my prediction. I don't think he's a bad player, but I don't think he is an All Star in a stacked PG league right now, muchless a HOFer.

You are out of your mind dude...

This whole discussion is insanity
 

child of wonder

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were you blind to the lakers / nets / wizards / jazz game where he drove left without any issues?

oh, you just don't mention it because he finished without any issues in those games. got it.

Again, you contend that Rubio was forcing Lin left into help for no good reason? They devised such a strategy simply for the fun of it? They didn't watch any tape at all to support such a strategy, they just sat around twiddling their thumbs and said "hey, you want to force Lin left tonight?" "Yeah, sure. Why not?"

Okie dokie. Clearly there's little point speaking to such a blind homer.
 
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HendrixFan

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here's your homework assignment. go back to last year's nba thread, and read what all the mavs fans on this board wrote during the finals. then again, you know what i'm talking about, but you continue sticking to your boxscore only arguments.

I probably have more posts in the NBA Playoffs thread from last year than any other single person. I know what is in there, why don't you provide some substance and back up your claims? You continue to be vague. You are making the claim, back it up. Especially if it is so clear.

The teams in the conference finals last year were all teams I chose to follow with the league pass broadband package. I watched 50+ games for each of them by the time the conference finals rolled around. The Mavs had two runs during the regular season where they went something like 18-1 and 22-1. I'd have to go back and look up exactly what it was, but it was in that ballpark. I knew they could get hot and they played great defense. As a perimeter team, getting hot can make you unstoppable. I know this.

Please clarify WTF you are trying to say.
 

al981

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I probably have more posts in the NBA Playoffs thread from last year than any other single person. I know what is in there, why don't you provide some substance and back up your claims? You continue to be vague. You are making the claim, back it up. Especially if it is so clear.

LOL, quick google search, even made Time. jesus.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2076884,00.html

"James has scored a measly four points in the fourth quarters of the last three games — you can picture Jordan shaking his shaved head right now, wondering why anyone would put he and James in the same sentence."



dodge more, mental midget.
 

HendrixFan

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LOL, quick google search, even made Time. jesus.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2076884,00.html

"James has scored a measly four points in the fourth quarters of the last three games — you can picture Jordan shaking his shaved head right now, wondering why anyone would put he and James in the same sentence."



dodge more, mental midget.

So wait, boxscores and points on the scoreboard are valid entries into discussing this matter? What was the point of your prior ten posts?
 
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yeah we know, you're a piss poor analyst and don't watch games, only boxscores. we established that last year.

We're comparing Lin to Nash in a serious context? Seriously? Nash in his prime was averaging 11 assists a game, 18pts, 45% from 3 pt range, and won two MVP trophies. He makes passes that Jeremy Lin couldn't see if he was watching on a TV.
 

Udgnim

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The Timberwolves game was Lin's 4th game in 5 days and it was a back to back game going from playing at New York to playing at Minnesota.

I'm not going to judge Lin for a single bad performance considering the above and the first time he got any major minutes began on 2/4 against New Jersey.

Lin started with 15 points, 7/12 shooting, and 4 assists in the first half, then faded HARD in the second half due to schedule and the amount of minutes D'antoni has Lin playing because the Knicks have to lean on him in order for the current team to run well.

The kid needs some rest and he's getting some now and will bring back linsanity on Tuesday against Toronto.

Also, the most significant thing about Lin isn't his stats. It's that the Knicks are on a 5 game winning streak with no star players and bench players, and Lin is the reason why some of these non-star/bench players are stepping up and that the Knicks are playing as a team both offensively and defensively.
 
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Again, you contend that Rubio was forcing Lin left into help for no good reason? They devised such a strategy simply for the fun of it? They didn't watch any tape at all to support such a strategy, they just sat around twiddling their thumbs and said "hey, you want to force Lin left tonight?" "Yeah, sure. Why not?"

Okie dokie. Clearly there's little point speaking to such a blind homer.

You're dealing with a guy that makes an argument for Lin over Nash after 4 games and one of the four games being meh.
 

Eug

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The Timberwolves game was Lin's 4th game in 5 days and it was a back to back game going from playing at New York to playing at Minnesota.

I'm not going to judge Lin for a single bad performance considering the above and the first time he got any major minutes began on 2/4 against New Jersey.

Lin started with 15 points, 7/12 shooting, and 4 assists in the first half, then faded HARD in the second half due to schedule and the amount of minutes D'antoni has Lin playing because the Knicks have to lean on him in order for the current team to run well.

The kid needs some rest and he's getting some now and will bring back linsanity on Tuesday against Toronto.

Also, the most significant thing about Lin isn't his stats. It's that the Knicks are on a 5 game winning streak with no star players and bench players, and Lin is the reason why some of these non-star/bench players are stepping up and that the Knicks are playing as a team both offensively and defensively.
I agree, but what probably was also a factor is that Rubio and friends partially figured Lin out for the second half.

This is going to happen more and more as other teams learn about Lin.

My prediction, as before, is that Lin will turn out to be a decent player, but not necessarily a humungous star in terms of his actual play. He may however become a major star in terms of his endorsements, given his underdog story, his humble demeanour, his nerdiness, and most importantly, his Chinese heritage.
 

slayer202

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We're comparing Lin to Nash in a serious context? Seriously? Nash in his prime was averaging 11 assists a game, 18pts, 45% from 3 pt range, and won two MVP trophies. He makes passes that Jeremy Lin couldn't see if he was watching on a TV.

In this short stretch Lin is averaging 26.8pts, 8 ast, 4.6 boards, and 2 steals. People who know much more about bball than ATOTers are making comparisons with Nash because it's a fair comparison. Even Nash has made some statements. If you can't see the comparisons you are blind. Obviously Lin has only been doing it a short while, but so far what he's been doing has been a Nash level of play, end of story.
 

HendrixFan

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The effect Lin has had on the Knicks is what you would expect on a team going from piss poor PG play to good PG play. The biggest difference between the Orlando Magic that went to the Finals versus the crappy team they are now is that Jameer Nelson is a shadow of his former self. They went from good PG play to piss poor PG play.

Looking ahead 3 of the next 4 games should be W's too. That should have the Knicks winning 8 of 9 with Lin playing, so expect the buzz to get louder.
 

al981

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Again, you contend that Rubio was forcing Lin left into help was for no good reason? They devised such a strategy simply for the fun of it? They didn't watch any tape at all to support such a strategy, they just sat around twiddling their thumbs and said "hey, you want to force Lin left tonight?" "Yeah, sure. Why not?"

Okie dokie. Clearly there's little point speaking to such a blind homer.

you contend he's a flash in the pan and has issues going left, when he's proven he does so without much of a problem in his first 4 major games?

feel free to acknowledge the basic fact. he drove left numerous times against the lakers as well. did you watch that game, or are you pulling a hendrix?
 

al981

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We're comparing Lin to Nash in a serious context? Seriously? Nash in his prime was averaging 11 assists a game, 18pts, 45% from 3 pt range, and won two MVP trophies. He makes passes that Jeremy Lin couldn't see if he was watching on a TV.

others posters were comparing playstyles. citing mvp career statistics is irrelevant. it's why even steve nash himself gave props. it's why the best pg to ever play the game gave props and compared his style to nash and stockton.

try again.
 

slayer202

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The effect Lin has had on the Knicks is what you would expect on a team going from piss poor PG play to good PG play. The biggest difference between the Orlando Magic that went to the Finals versus the crappy team they are now is that Jameer Nelson is a shadow of his former self. They went from good PG play to piss poor PG play.

Looking ahead 3 of the next 4 games should be W's too. That should have the Knicks winning 8 of 9 with Lin playing, so expect the buzz to get louder.

Jameer Nelson has always been a bum


and you guys are putting words in al981's mouth. you are debating things he never said...
 
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