so there's an asian guy in the NBA that's not 8 ft tall?

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Miramonti

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I predict he won't get a contract worth over >20M/year. That's crazy talk.

I didn't give the years. That's 4 years @$5m, or 5 years @4m, aka Darko Milicic money. I believe he has/will prove himself a solid starter, and that's hardly overpaying for someone at this position.
 

Red Storm

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I didn't give the years. That's 4 years @$5m, or 5 years @4m, aka Darko Milicic money. I believe he has/will prove himself a solid starter, and that's hardly overpaying for someone at this position.

Oh. Generally when I talk contracts I'm looking at the per year price, cause saying $20M while leaving out the number of years tells us nothing.

If you meant in the 4 or 5 mil range, then I could see that happening. He would need to keep up his production, which will be interesting to see when Melo comes back (as I don't think Melo makes his teammates any better).
 

Miramonti

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A friend of mine is firmly in the camp that believes jeremy lin is a fraud. He wants melo back. I asked him if he wanted to watch the knicks lose again. He replies: "I've gotten used to it."



Oh. Generally when I talk contracts I'm looking at the per year price, cause saying $20M while leaving out the number of years tells us nothing.

If you meant in the 4 or 5 mil range, then I could see that happening. He would need to keep up his production, which will be interesting to see when Melo comes back (as I don't think Melo makes his teammates any better).

Understood. Mainly my point was that I believe he has shown enough and will display enough the rest of the season for another team to make a long term commitment to him, since a solid pick and roll pg with his awareness, ability to score, generate team chemistry, play defense, etc., is hard to come by in the league. And his performances lately were '$20-30m' performances, based on what he will sign his next contract for as a result.

Did anyone think I meant $20m/yr?? lol, that would be a pretty f'ing insane prediction.
 
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Miramonti

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What are you even talking about? You don't see how saying "there's no chance, in my opinion" is a rather silly statement?

Whatever, I'm not gonna argue with someone lacking the proper tools to have a discussion. I really couldn't care less what kind of contract the guy gets. Not sure why you took offense when I questioned your "prediction"

If I misread, apologies, but if you want to display "proper tools to a discussion", consider not initiating by telling someone to condescendingly to "relax", and then saying his "imo" was stated as if 'it will happen for sure' and not actually 'in one's opinion'. It's simply an opinion I'm confident in, but have been wrong before and have no problem acknowledging it's only an opinion.
 

slayer202

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I didn't mean relax to be condescending, just a casual relax with the lin hype. I wasn't trying to be hostile at all
 

Miramonti

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Lin, Westbrook Named Players of the Week

The New York Knicks’ Jeremy Lin and the Oklahoma City Thunder’s Russell Westbrook today were named the Eastern and Western Conference Players of the Week, respectively, for games played Monday, Feb. 6, through Sunday, Feb. 12.

Lin led the Knicks to a 4-0 week, averaging 27.3 points, 8.3 assists and 2.0 steals. His 109 points over his first four career starts are the most by any player since 1976-77, and he became the first player in NBA history to tally at least 20 points and seven assists in each of his first four starts. Lin scored a career-high 38 points on Feb. 10, in a 92-85 win over the Lakers.

Westbrook helped the Thunder to a 3-1 week, averaging 30.0 points, 6.0 rebounds, 5.3 assists and 2.5 steals. Westbrook scored 28 or more points in all four of Oklahoma City’s games, and posted one double-double (28 points, 11 rebounds) on Feb. 6, in a 111-107 win over the Portland Trail Blazers. Westbrook connected on a career-high 15 field goals on Feb. 9, during a 106-101 loss to the Sacramento Kings.

Melo says he will fit in

"When I'm reading the stuff, it's more funny than anything because at the end of the day I know what I bring to the game, I know what I bring to this team," Anthony said on Monday after missing practice due to a strained right groin. "My teammates know that. But to say, 'How can I fit in?' It's easy; give him the ball and space out. I get back to doing what I know how to do best. So we'll see."

..."I know there's questions about, 'Can I fit in?' and stuff like that, but this is like a dream come true to me," Anthony said. "It takes some pressure off of me. I don't have to play point guard. I don't have to try to get Amare 20 points, try to get this guy 20 points, me try to go out there and get 25-30 points a night, play defense, rebound do the whole thing."

Lin and Anthony rank fourth and fifth, respectively, in usage rate -- a measurement of how many possessions a player uses per 40 minutes. So they will have to find a happy medium when it comes to handling the ball. Anthony said there will still be opportunities for him to run isolation plays but Lin will be the team's primary ball-handler.

"I don't think I want to take that away, I don't think coach wants to take that away," Anthony said. "But at the same time, I have to get away from the ball knowing that Jeremy is the guy with the basketball, and knowing that he can create for me, for Amare, for everybody else and make other guys better."

Good to hear he gets it. Will he actually be able to adjust during gametime, we'll see. It will probably be most evident in how the other players like Fields, Jeffries (defense), and Novak end up contributing, and how much passion they play with. Lin seems to have been great for these guys so far.
 
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zebano

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There's also another 29 teams in the league, and a 'thing' called free agency. Knicks will either make room for him, go over the cap...some more, or not sign him, but unless he falters big time the rest of the season, there's no chance he signs his next contract for <$20m imo. He and his agent are going to look for a long term deal from a team that really wants him (and shows it by paying for him.) The team has to appreciate his pick and roll skills, but that's not going to be hard to find.

Still not allowed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Maximum_individual_contracts_under_the_CBA

I'm not saying on an open market people wouldn't pay that for him (he's good but not worth that much, but I don't want to get into that).
 

zebano

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I didn't give the years. That's 4 years @$5m, or 5 years @4m, aka Darko Milicic money. I believe he has/will prove himself a solid starter, and that's hardly overpaying for someone at this position.

ahh just saw this.... FYI if you don't include years everyone assumes you mean per year...

IF he maintains his production $5mil/year will be a steal and he could be worth $8-9 though I expect him to fall off a little bit to where that $5mil/year is about right.
 
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Miramonti

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Still not allowed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Maximum_individual_contracts_under_the_CBA

I'm not saying on an open market people wouldn't pay that for him (he's good but not worth that much, but I don't want to get into that).

Like I said above to Red Storm, I wasn't talking multi-year contract, which I guess some assumed. Yes, that would be beyond delusional muchless impossible from what you're linking. But even scoring a multiyear contract like that based off his sudden recent successes, having been only a few days from the unemployment line again, would be a remarkable accomplishment.

/edit: cool, you read my post above. I originally said $20-30m, obviously multiyear, but $20m was quoted and taken by some as per year. Yeah, $5m at this level of performance/leadership (his numbers will of course drop) would be a steal. Kirk Hinrich makes $10m iirc, and can't drive the lane very well, but is an experienced leader who plays good defense. There's a lot of time, but anywhere between $5-9m per year, 3-4 years is very conceivable imo.

A lot could depend on how he meshes the stars/team when Amar'e and Melo return. No telling what contract he could be offered if he can run the knicks smoothly and successfully then...that would probably be his greatest feat yet.
 
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Svnla

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Dumbfuck racist black fatso forced to backpedal = http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...zes-unfunny-jeremy-lin-twitter-145934497.html

Typical of racist blacks, they would be the first ones to cry "racist" when whites/other races made funny statements but it was no big deal when they themselves made racist statements.

Gotta love the comments section below the story. Here are a few:

Jeremy Lin is all CLASS, while Whitlock on the other hand is all TRASH

How may white announcers and journalists have been fired for the same reason. They inadvertantly said the wrong thing about a black person, and tried to apologize. It did no good. Make and example of Whitlock so that all will understand that racism is not solely confined to the caucasian ethnicity. If they don't, they just continue to feed the fire
 
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Eug

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I predict Lin and Stoudemire might just do well tomorrow in Toronto. But that's because my local team sucks.

They also could win the next two, against Sacramento and New Orleans. Dallas is gonna be tougher though.
 

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Talk about The Perfect Storm:

- I read somewhere else that Lin was on verge of being cut so Knicks could bring up D-Leaguer Mike James, but Carmelo Anthony asked Coach D'Antoni to play Lin more during second half of Nets game

- and Raptors could have conceivably traded for Lin, too:
"Earlier this NBA season, with the New York Knicks in complete disarray and relationships rather friendly between Knicks coach Mike D&#8217;Antoni, interim general manager Glen Grunwald, and Colangelo, there had been some serious talk about a deal for one of the Raptors&#8217; point guards. No one will say who approached whom about what, but if you play the elimination game, it was probably the veteran Anthony Carter, who was supposed to be heading to New York.

The Knicks thought they needed somebody, anybody to help and Carter, with 12 seasons of work behind him, was an inexpensive and experienced answer.


The situation got so bad for the Knicks that D&#8217;Antoni was actually telling people around the league that he had no choice, he was running out of players, that he had to play Lin. Not that he wanted to.


Colangelo, who can&#8217;t talk about these kind of things, figured to himself that if he moved one of his point guards to open up a roster spot, there was the possibility he would add the tough kid, Lin, either by trade or waivers, depending on how the Knicks proceeded.


The deal was discussed but never happened.


Then the impossible and incredible occurred all at once: Lin got onto the Knicks floor and hasn&#8217;t gotten off since, becoming the accidental star in the process."

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/13/jeremy-lin-was-almost-a-raptor
 
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Miramonti

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Talk about The Perfect Storm:

- I read somewhere else that Lin was on verge of being cut so Knicks could bring up D-Leaguer Mike James, but Carmelo Anthony asked Coach D'Antoni to play Lin more during second half of Nets game

- and Raptors could have conceivably traded for Lin, too:

He sounds like a stock that numerous people thought was cheap and should buy, but then again no one else is going after it so maybe it's worth where it's trading afterall. Then it quadruples, and everyone is kicking themselves for not getting some when they had a chance.
 

HomerJS

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Talk about The Perfect Storm:

- I read somewhere else that Lin was on verge of being cut so Knicks could bring up D-Leaguer Mike James, but Carmelo Anthony asked Coach D'Antoni to play Lin more during second half of Nets game

- and Raptors could have conceivably traded for Lin, too:

Shouldn't they fire the Knick coach for being incompetant?
 

maziwanka

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it's a really nice story to see for Lin.

just hope he can keep this up and go for a much better contract than what he's currently got!
 

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Lin Helps Drive Knicks’ Sales; MSG Shares Climb

Lin’s play might help Madison Square Garden shares by bringing an end to the programming-fee standoff between the company and Time Warner Cable Inc., according to David Joyce, an analyst at Miller Tabak & Co. in New York. Time Warner Cable’s 2.8 million MSG subscribers lost access to the channels on Jan. 1, with the two sides haggling over prices.

“Shares keep going up because he’s come on and is doing a great job,” Joyce, who doesn’t own MSG shares and gives them a neutral rating, said of Lin. “That hope then translates into maybe this gets Time Warner Cable and MSG back to the negotiating table.”
 

Eug

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HD phantom camera in slow motion.

These are the best quality highlights I've seen so far of Lin vs. Bryant. 720p uploaded by the NBA, but without the macro blocking from the TV channels, and without all that extra stuff. It looks like they took 4k footage or whatever and cropped out a whole bunch to leave us with the super smooth 720p closeups.
 

Miramonti

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HD phantom camera in slow motion.

These are the best quality highlights I've seen so far of Lin vs. Bryant. 720p uploaded by the NBA, but without the macro blocking from the TV channels, and without all that extra stuff. It looks like they took 4k footage or whatever and cropped out a whole bunch to leave us with the super smooth 720p closeups.

Awesome video. A little fvcked up that the nba is putting out a sensationalist video titled Jeremy Lin vs. Kobe Bryant, I thought that's our job , but that aside it's some excellent footage.
 
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ponyo

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Game time. Streaming it from Front Row Sports. Stream quality is actually decent on my 50" TV.
 

TecHNooB

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lin looking lost at the start of the game. not as fearless as he normally is on the drive.
 
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