so there's an asian guy in the NBA that's not 8 ft tall?

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Yongsta

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Good extra revenue for the away teams. When Lin went to Minnesota, largest crowd there in 8 years, cheapest ticket you could get was more than double the price of the normal cheapest ticket. One of the largest crowds it looks like in Toronto last night as well.
 

WT

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I really think Lin is going to turn the NBA around. Of course nothing to the scale Jordan did in the 80s, but he is drawing a lot of people's interest back to the NBA. Not just Asian, but people of all races.

I equate it to Cal Ripken's incredible season in 1991, after the strike shortened season before it. It brought the casual fan back into the game.

A lot of basketball fans were very antsy about how this shortened season was going to play out, so Stern has to be EXTREMELY pleased that NBA interest is somehow peaking when no one expected it to do anything other than sink.
 

Miramonti

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http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/34839685

based on that it seems his next two years will be at max around that wall level. of course what happens after is highly dependent on what multi year offers he gets based on how the rest of the season goes. no matter what happens, the guy's gotten himself a big raise for in the worst case, a week and a half of work

Good link. I didn't think there were "factors", but even the new cba adds one. So since he already signed a 2 year contract with GS and has '<=2 years experience', two years at the midlevel exception, and 2 or 3 more years at whatever bidding teams are willing to backload. I imagine those years could be pretty strong, getting him at a discount the first two. And some teams simply might have more cap space in 2014-15, 2015-16 as well.

It will be interesting to see what Wall's next contract will be for...DRose set the standard for a young pg improving in the offseasons, yet Wall is worse than his rookie year in some stats.
 
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Insomniator

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So glad I bought tickets for tonight last week when he was just getting good. 55 bucks each then... now going for 170+.

Its gonna be fucking nuts at MSG tonight.
 

TecHNooB

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So glad I bought tickets for tonight last week when he was just getting good. 55 bucks each then... now going for 170+.

Its gonna be fucking nuts at MSG tonight.

There's a game tonite? And I thought i was going to get some work done.
 

slayer202

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I've been looking for tickets today. Lowballed some people on ebay but no luck yet. We'll see how desperate people get to unload their tickets


http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219014/Knicks_Can_Keep_Lin_With_$5_Million_Exception
Knicks Can Keep Lin With $5 Million Exception

Feb 15, 2012 10:22 AM EST
Jeremy Lin will be a restricted free agent after this season.
Lin will be eligible to receive a qualifying offer from the Knicks worth approximately $2.7 million, with $5 million being the maximum that another team could offer in the first year of a multi-year offer sheet.
The Knicks could use their full mid-level exception to match all offers.
"He's had five games that LeBron James would be jealous of," one NBA general manager said Tuesday. "So he's outplaying his time in the D-League right now. It&#8217;s happened, but it&#8217;s pretty rare for a guy to play better in the pros than in the minor leagues. It's also rare for someone who's had a five-game stretch like this not to turn out to be an All Star."


 

Miramonti

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Lin also drove right into Amir Johnson before that, pretty balsey, considering he already blocked 5 shots earlier (probably all amare's too, who got 8 shots blocked yesterday )

I wouldn't take too much out of yesterdays game winner tho, other than he does have an exceptional focus and desire to win at the end of games. He also made the game winning free throw against twolves, but missed 1 of 2.
 

Miramonti

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There's a game tonite? And I thought i was going to get some work done.

Scalp them and watch it on Comcast!

Oh wait, no msg on comcast.

Seriously tho, if I could get >$200-300 each, I'd scalp them because I'm cheap like that.
 

Miramonti

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I've been looking for tickets today. Lowballed some people on ebay but no luck yet. We'll see how desperate people get to unload their tickets


http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/219014/Knicks_Can_Keep_Lin_With_$5_Million_Exception

Synopsis of cbssports link above.
 

Red Storm

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Let's start taking bets on how long this winning streak will last.

I haven't looked at their schedule so I don't know who they're playing, but I say it goes for 9 games.
 
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Let's start taking bets on how long this winning streak will last.

I haven't looked at their schedule so I don't know who they're playing, but I say it goes for 9 games.

They play the mavs Sunday I believe. The streak will end there if its still going at that point. Mavs have the fire extinguisher in The Matrix and play championship level team defense even after losing Chandler.
 

Eug

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I'm pretty sure it was a motion to spread out.
That's not what happened. He motioned for everyone to move forward, and move forward they did. Perhaps not toward the net per se, but toward the baseline.


Incorrect, there is no such thing as a "long-range streak", contrary to popular belief.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-kobe-bryant-pointer.html

Probability also says that Lin isn't going to get the call in a tie game, no matter how hard he got mugged while driving. Therefore to any Harvard intellectual like Lin, his best option was the 3. Whereas Lebron would have drove like the idiot he is, gotten mugged, not gotten the call, and then pouted passive aggressively at the refs for 5 minutes.
I think you're missing the point. Like I said before, I would have had Novak take the shot. His stats were WAY better from long range than Lin's. The problem though is that with Novak on the floor, things may become too obvious, because Novak's only offense is the long range shot.

As for the likelihood of scoring in streaks, I don't necessarily believe in that either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lin and/or D'Antoni felt that way. And even if they didn't, the key here is that it was a tie game. If he missed, it wouldn't have been the end of the world.

BTW, Lin did get the call when they were down 87-84. He sank the layup, and got the call to tie it.
 
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Red Storm

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That's not what happened. He motioned for everyone to move forward, and move forward they did. Perhaps not toward the net per se, but toward the baseline.

He was calling off the screener, because that would have likely led to a trap/double. You see it all the time in this exact scenario. Stars in the NBA have the confidence (whether it's justified or not) to take and make the last shot with the game on the line. That's what Lin was doing.


I think you're missing the point. Like I said before, I would have had Novak take the shot. His stats were WAY better from long range than Lin's. The problem though is that with Novak on the floor, things may become too obvious, because Novak's only offense is the long range shot.

As for the likelihood of scoring in streaks, I don't necessarily believe in that either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lin and/or D'Antoni felt that way. And even if they didn't, the key here is that it was a tie game. If he missed, it wouldn't have been the end of the world.

Novak can't create his own shot. The only way he gets the ball at the end of the game is by being open due to a screen or the ball handler getting doubled.
 

Eug

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Novak can't create his own shot. The only way he gets the ball at the end game is by becoming open due to a screen or the ball handler getting doubled.
No, he can't create his own shot. But if open, he's much more likely to sink the long-range shot than Jeremy Lin.

That's exactly what they did in Minnesota, and Novak sank that most important shot.

It wasn't as if there was no time left on the clock for that play in Toronto. There were over 15 seconds left, and they had a time out available, but Lin just bided his time and let the clock run out.
 

Red Storm

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It wasn't as if there was no time left on the clock for that play in Toronto. There were over 15 seconds left, and they had a time out available, but Lin just bided his time and let the clock run out.

Which I completely agreed with. In a tie game with the shot clock turned off, the most important thing (besides winning the game) is to make sure you take the last shot. That means not doing things that increase the chance of a turnover (hence why there are so many 1-on-1 plays at the end of tie games). If they were down 2 that night, I would agree with setting up a play for Novak.
 

Miramonti

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That's not what happened. He motioned for everyone to move forward, and move forward they did. Perhaps not toward the net per se, but toward the baseline.



I think you're missing the point. Like I said before, I would have had Novak take the shot. His stats were WAY better from long range than Lin's. The problem though is that with Novak on the floor, things may become too obvious, because Novak's only offense is the long range shot.

As for the likelihood of scoring in streaks, I don't necessarily believe in that either, but I wouldn't be surprised if Lin and/or D'Antoni felt that way. And even if they didn't, the key here is that it was a tie game. If he missed, it wouldn't have been the end of the world.

BTW, Lin did get the call when they were down 87-84. He sank the layup, and got the call to tie it.

It was an iso motion to clear out, calling off the screener. He said in the post-game interview that he looked back at D'Antoni not to see if coach wanted a timeout, but to ask for an iso, lol.

It was an unbelievable amount of confidence imo to call off the screener and take the iso instead. The shot at that point isn't a matter of statistics, but confidence in that situation, as well as taking what Calderon gave him (and the sensibility that he may not get to the rim when the defense collapses, a point he also brought up in the pgi...as well as SP33Demon's point, refs don't like calling fouls in that situation, even on muggings)

As for a timeout to bring in shooters like Novak would have worked against them, allowing the defense to setup, and perhaps even keep Lin from getting the ball or take it out of his hands. D'Antoni said that a timeout wouldn't have helped Lin, and only would have helped the defense strategize.
 
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Eug

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As for a timeout to bring in shooters like Novak would have worked against them, allowing the defense to setup, and perhaps even keep Lin from getting the ball or take it out of his hands. D'Antoni said that a timeout wouldn't have helped Lin, and only would have helped the defense strategize.
Yes, and I agree with that.

I'm just saying that Lin isn't a great outside shooter, despite all the Linsanity that has happened this week.
 

Miramonti

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Yes, and I agree with that.

I'm just saying that Lin isn't a great outside shooter, despite all the Linsanity that has happened this week.

He's not, and didn't make any shots 10-19 feet last night. Just another thing to add to the Linsanity. Not a great outside shooter, but a helluva baller who can step up when it counts.

This short stint reminds me of Robert Horry...a 34% 3pt. shooter, but a helluva baller with the game on the line. So clutch he almost deserves some tiny corner in the HOF somewhere. Iirc, he has 7 rings too. (Lin hasn't accomplished near as much, but some guys have great clutch focus, some don't...so far his seems pretty good atleast, lol)
 

sygyzy

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I feel bad for Lin because when he finally has a "bad" game, scoring less than 20 points, it'll seem really bad (compared to his streak). In reality, that'd be a pretty good/average game for most players.
 
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