so there's an asian guy in the NBA that's not 8 ft tall?

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zinfamous

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I am a Taiwanese American just like Lin , and I don't really find beloved patriot in the armor offensive. (I totally get this beloved patriot thing) Yes you cringe just to see the word, and a reports/writer/anchor should have the sensitivity to see how the phrase COULD offend Asian community with huge number of Lin fans, but I agree with you, this is a commonly used phrase.

The ESPN guy should be reprimanded for not having the sensitivity, but I doubt he did it on purpose.

Having said that, the discrimination against Asian in the US is very real. Stopping discrimination against other races have come a very long way in the US, but the same cannot be said about discrimination against Asian. JL had an interview specifically talked about the racial slurs he had to endure in games, the same would not have been tolerated if it was against African American. Even in this forum, you have a thread making fun of Chinese names a few weeks back, sure some are fun, but some are also totally discriminatory, and the sad things is many people don't know or don't care where to draw the line.

Anyways, I know there is already enough PC thing already and I don't want the government or community to make new rules. Just ask people to see that no matter what race we all are, we are all American and let's all get along.

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this is how I see it, too. I do believe it was an honest mistake--but I don't think that necessarily excuses the reporter, being in his position, for overlooking the error. In the same light, the error is a bit endemic, as the article went to print. He wasn't the only person that overlooked it. (well, maybe not--with the onrush of the bloggosphere and death or journalism, most outlets have been cutting back on editing and proofreading positions.)
 

HendrixFan

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so much for your argument. no melo, and amare has been useless this year, with another pathetic performance this afternoon. what does that tell you, kid? you won't admit it, but lin continues to carry them.

Why are you so angry? Do you forget that I picked the Knicks to play in the ECF? They did have no business losing to the Hornets the other night, and hot shooting won the game for them tonight. In basketball, if shots are going in or missing anyone can win on any given night. I've said as much plenty of times and it is a fact.



The Knicks have role players surrounding Lin right now, and they can get streaky. That is what makes them role players. Without a solid foundation like Melo they can't win consistently against the big boys.
 

TecHNooB

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I always felt that asian stereotypes were more comical than hateful as the average asian is relatively successful.
 
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Not only that, but even if they take a cap hit to pay for him that is only $10M out of pocket for them.

But Lin is like in his 2nd or 3rd year? How is that going to be a rookie contract? Maybe you could clarify it? Kinda curious as mavs will have mucho cap room and if no DWill or D12 they need options.:biggrin:

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New York would not be able to pay Lin whatever it wants, but they'll be able to match whatever other teams can offer him. The Knicks would be able to use their mid-level exception to sign Lin. This exception is slightly higher than the league average salary.

The Knicks would be able to offer Lin more than the mid-level exception, but they would have to clear enough salary cap space in order to do so.
 
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darkxshade

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I don't know who's going to make a go at Lin but after the season is over the choice is his and I just don't see him leaving the one team he thrives in. He's also smart enough not to let money ruin his career by going for the highest bidder. He did graduate with an economics degree from Harvard after all.
 

HendrixFan

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I don't know who's going to make a go at Lin but after the season is over the choice is his and I just don't see him leaving the one team he thrives in. He's also smart enough not to let money ruin his career by going for the highest bidder. He did graduate with an economics degree from Harvard after all.

He should stick with D'Antoni his whole career. Especially if the Knicks fire him and hire Phil Jackson as has been rumored.
 
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I don't know who's going to make a go at Lin but after the season is over the choice is his and I just don't see him leaving the one team he thrives in. He's also smart enough not to let money ruin his career by going for the highest bidder. He did graduate with an economics degree from Harvard after all.

He would fit in nicely in Dallas. Dirk has a way of making players better. Well that's if we don't get DWill. Lin is awesome but I'm still taking DWill over him.
 
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He should stick with D'Antoni his whole career. Especially if the Knicks fire him and hire Phil Jackson as has been rumored.

He wouldn't fit in Dallas just as well? Having the option to throw it to the blonde bomber from the G helps any point guard.
 
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I'm confused here, you're the one who asked how the Knicks can keep Lin, then you say this. Who's going to pay for this?

I'm a Dallas Mavs fan. If Dallas can't pick up DWill then we're gonna need a point guard. That's where Jeremy Lin comes in. Thanks for the showcase NY.
 

darkxshade

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Ahh ok, I didn't know that, from the way it started out, I thought you meant the Knicks who obviously wouldn't and shouldn't get Dwill.
 

HendrixFan

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He wouldn't fit in Dallas just as well? Having the option to throw it to the blonde bomber from the G helps any point guard.

Not at all. An energy guy like Lin can get away with poor decisions around D'Antoni. Carlisle is a structured coach who needs a veteran at PG, someone who isn't sloppy. Barea worked for the Mavs because he was a pure scorer and didn't turn the ball over with his recklessness.

I mean, as a consolation prize it wouldn't be that bad but it would take alot more to get the two to fit together.
 

Miramonti

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Not at all. An energy guy like Lin can get away with poor decisions around D'Antoni. Carlisle is a structured coach who needs a veteran at PG, someone who isn't sloppy. Barea worked for the Mavs because he was a pure scorer and didn't turn the ball over with his recklessness.

I mean, as a consolation prize it wouldn't be that bad but it would take alot more to get the two to fit together.

He'd be great with Dallas. He's not sloppy or reckless, he's inexperienced and exhausted. Next year will see a significant improvement imo, if not before the end of this season.
 

mshan

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Read some interesting articles on the Dallas game and it looks like Lin was ad libbing offense in fourth quarter.

To start fourth quarter, D'Antoni went with three guards and J R Smith knew no plays, so D'Antoni said he didn't call anything. He joked about Dallas not being able to scout them then because he wasn't calling any set play. Novak also said shots opened up for him in fourth quarter, so looks like D'Antoni / Lin / Knicks caught them off guard to start fourth while they made that spurt to take control of game.

Says a lot about his trust in Lin and Lin's natural instincts (reiterating Coach Smart's comments after Sacramento game that Lin now (i. e. after one year in NBA, even if he didn't get a lot of non-garbage playing time) sees and understands how pieces are moving on basketball chess board).

Think Marion might be hinting at same thing when it sounded like Lin was able to break down Mavericks set D and game became one on one, not organized, playground basketball...
 
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Miramonti

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Read some interesting articles on the Dallas game and it looks like Lin was ad libbing offense in fourth quarter.

To start fourth quarter, D'Antoni went with three guards and J R Smith knew no plays, so D'Antoni said he didn't call anything. He joked about Dallas not being able to scout them then because he wasn't calling any set play. Novak also said shots opened up for him in fourth quarter, so looks like D'Antoni / Lin / Knicks caught them off guard to start fourth while they made that spurt to take control of game.

Says a lot about his trust in Lin and Lin's natural instincts (reiterating Coach Smart's comments after Sacramento game that Lin now (i. e. after one year in NBA, even if he didn't get a lot of non-garbage playing time) sees and understands how pieces are moving on basketball chess board).

Think Marion might be hinting at same thing when it sounded like Lin was able to break down Mavericks set D and game became one on one, not organized, playground basketball...

Lin should get a percentage of D'Antoni's salary, lol.
 

Eug

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Jeremy Lin headline slur was ‘honest mistake,’ fired ESPN editor Anthony Federico claims

The ESPN editor fired Sunday for using "beloved patriot in the armor" in a headline about Knicks phenom Jeremy Lin said the racial slur never crossed his mind - and he was devastated when he realized his mistake.

"This had nothing to do with me being cute or punny," Anthony Federico told the Daily News.

"I'm so sorry that I offended people. I'm so sorry if I offended Jeremy."

Federico, 28, said he understands why he was axed. "ESPN did what they had to do," he said.

He said he has used the phrase "at least 100 times" in headlines over the years and thought nothing of it when he slapped it on the Lin story.
 

Miramonti

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Other way around. D'Antoni has been doing this with success his whole career.

69-116 with the Knicks before he gave Lin significant playing time, 'doing this with success his whole career' not found.

/edit: the page I looked at was old...his record was actually 111-158 pre-Lin contributions.
 
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