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dullard

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Originally posted by: JoeyM
Dohh! I sold all of my stocks yesterday to buy a house on Friday. So not only would I have made another $20k (I sh*t you not) had I waited one day but I don't benefit from the rate cut. I'll bet stocks continue to rise all week. Why didn't my broker tell me to wait a day? It's my own fault for not knowing that a rate cut was even coming today. Oh, the pain!!

Joe M.
Don't fret too much. Sure, you would have been better off waiting to sell the stocks until today. The stocks will hurt, but you can't use hindsight when thinking about stocks.

As for the mortgage, it'll take a while for rates to move, and they likely won't move too much. So waiting there wouldn't have helped.
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: JoeyM
Dohh! I sold all of my stocks yesterday to buy a house on Friday. So not only would I have made another $20k (I sh*t you not) had I waited one day but I don't benefit from the rate cut. I'll bet stocks continue to rise all week. Why didn't my broker tell me to wait a day? It's my own fault for not knowing that a rate cut was even coming today. Oh, the pain!!

Joe M.

well look on the bright side. you have a house now.
 

trmiv

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How long until this hits the mortgage rates? My wife and I just got pre-approved for a loan and are looking to buy within the next 1.5-2 months.
 

FreshPrince

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I like it! this does well for me so I'm happy, time to start looking again.

also, rates are always more important than price of house imo...

on a 400K house @ 6% for 30 years, total interest $463,352.76

same deal with a 5.5% rate and total interest paid goes down to $417,616.16

difference of $45,736.6

these days with all the BS incentives that they throw at you, there's virtually no way you can talk them down $45k....now if you can then more power to you...or is it?

400k - 45736.6 = 354263.4 @ 6% 30yr and you're still looking at $410,372.31 total interest and that's only 7K less. But like I said, you would have to be a magician in order to talk them down that much...

you're more likely to talk them down at a max of 20K so that would be more like 380K @ 6% 30yr and what you're really looking at is $440,185.12 total interest. So after all that "dealing" you really still end up paying 23K more in the long run. on top of that, the 20K that you saved will most like go towards furniture that that's automatically gone. You could argue that putting the 20K in a 30yr cd @ 5% apr and make about 66K in interest back, but how many people will do that instead of using it to furnish the house?

also, typically, in order to get a 30yr fixed rate, they won't let you do it unless you put up 25% up front to show them that you can handle it. So with that, all the numbers change

your 400K @ 6% 30yr becomes 300K @ 6% 30yr and now the total interest is $347,514.57
your 400K @ 5.5% 30yr becomes 300K @ 5.5% 30yr and the total interest is $313,212.12
your 380K @ 6% 30yr becomes 280K @ 6% 30yr and the total interest is $324,346.93

the question then becomes do you put down the 100K or show them all your finances and prove to them that you can swing it with 0 down. If you can do that, then invest the 100K in a simple 30yr cd @ 5% apr and you're looking at getting $332,194.24 in interests back and that should be enough to cover over 3/4 of your mortgage interestes.

this is just fixed rates, don't even get me started on flex. market rates..I don't even know why people would ever consider such a loan....

with all that said, the real question then becomes should you buy that 400K house or is it more realistic to step down to a 300K home? that's why there are so many forclosed homes because people think they can afford that mansion when in reality, they really should've went for the more modest home. Even if you have the money, long term wise, it's better to invest that money than to put it down for a house. What really bothers me is that people who are in trouble with their house note will still pay off the CC's first becore they pay the house. Yes, CC interest rates are higher, but last I checked...CC's don't put a roof over you and your family's heads and stop the rain from coming in. Stop spending so much and stop using that CC!
 

Vic

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Conventional mortgage rates are not tied to the Fed Funds rate. You're not going to automatically get a 0.5% off the floating rate of your mortgage app in process. It don't work that way.
Your short-term loans though, like your home equity line or credit card, will likely see a cut... as will your savings accounts rate.
 

redgtxdi

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Originally posted by: JoeyM
Dohh! I sold all of my stocks yesterday to buy a house on Friday. So not only would I have made another $20k (I sh*t you not) had I waited one day but I don't benefit from the rate cut. I'll bet stocks continue to rise all week. Why didn't my broker tell me to wait a day? It's my own fault for not knowing that a rate cut was even coming today. Oh, the pain!!



Well, sorry to hear that, but a house is about the only thing I'd pull something like that for anyway.

But, heck, you may be able to buy back into the market closer to yesterday's close soon enough!!

Market will dip again. Our problems are not going away because of Bernanke's foolish decision. They'll just change a little.


This F*cking country needs to realize..........IT'S OK FOR THINGS TO SUCK FOR A WHILE!!!! THE SUN DON'T SHINE EVERY F*CKING DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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OS

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i don't think this helps anyone getting a fixed rate mortgage, this little stunt caused 10 and 30 year bond rates to go up.

 

FoBoT

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fobot.com
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: OS

this move sent oil up almost $1 and the dollar index into the toilet.

gas prices here have dropped over the past few weeks, inversely proportional to the record high oil price

i guess they called off the conspiracy/price fixing

I think the supplies are pretty high right now.

i don't think that has anything to do with it, i am sure i read on the intrawebs, ATOT/P&N specifically, that the oil companies control the gas prices in conspiracy with D. Cheney

i don't see what supply/demand has to do with it, that is crazy talk
 

Fraggable

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: OS

this move sent oil up almost $1 and the dollar index into the toilet.

gas prices here have dropped over the past few weeks, inversely proportional to the record high oil price

i guess they called off the conspiracy/price fixing

I think the supplies are pretty high right now.

i don't think that has anything to do with it, i am sure i read on the intrawebs, ATOT/P&N specifically, that the oil companies control the gas prices in conspiracy with D. Cheney

i don't see what supply/demand has to do with it, that is crazy talk

I don't care what the cause is, but next time I hear that oil supplies are going down and prices go up, or that supplies are increasing and prices go down, I'll sh!t a brick because so far I have never seen supply affect prices in the short term. All I've seen is gas go up $1 at the pump since we invaded Iraq/Katrina, and since then they've never dipped below $2.50 - and the last time I saw $2.50 was a week after hearing that we should expect prices to shoot up.
 

lozina

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This is terrible. Dollar is dropping like a brick.

Look at foreign exchange rates with Euro or Canadian dollar- we are almost at parity with the CAD !!

Look at prices of commodities like oil and gold...

Basically, our wages have just been cut without us knowing it. Unless of course you don't purchase any products whose price has the cost of oil or other global market commodities including wheat factored into it...

 

Slew Foot

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Gas prices have been edging upwards since July over here, around 2.90/gal now.

But that's another thread.

Looks like were going to try and inflate our problems away, hopefully our wages do the same.


 

miketheidiot

Lifer
Sep 3, 2004
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overreaction. This looks alot like bernanke is pandering to the street guys that he is sometimes criticized for being out of touch with.
 

redgtxdi

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Somebody needs to throw Bernanke in a coffin............drop him off in the middle of Mexico, make him break his way out of the coffin..................& hitchhike his way back to the U.S. & see if he thinks dropping the funds rate was a good idea by the time he makes it back to U.S. soil. ( a la Michael Douglas in "The Game")

(IF he made it back to U.S. soil!!) :evil:
 

redgtxdi

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot

It went up more yesterday



All in anticipation of today!!


Trust me.........I ain't that lucky to just GUESS that BerWANKER was gonna cut .5%.

I could FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL it in my bones!!!
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: 3cho
Originally posted by: Argo
I'm there with you - I wish the rates stayed the same, but I see them going down. My fear is that lower rates will fuel another round of subprime lending.

are you serious? how will it fuel subprime lending? it's hard for people to borrow money with good credit now. you obviously have missed point.

My thought was that with cheaper rates competition between the lenders will stiffen, causing some to dip into subprime market again.
 

redgtxdi

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Jun 23, 2004
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So.......if today's market shot was any indicator.........


Care to guess what Berwanker & company are gonna do tomorrow, YET AGAIN!?!?!? :|:|:|:|:|

 
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