So... Where's Michael Moore?

[Sureshot324]

Originally posted by: DefRef
Sore loser or someone pretending to care so that people don't hip up to the fact that he was only in it for the money?

What makes you think he's only in it for the money?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks

Originally posted by: randym431
http://www.michaelmoore.com/

HOLY!

am I correct in assuming those are all of the soldiers lost in Iraq??

as someone said on the radio today MM better watch out, Bush and co might not be thrilled with his antics this go around

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Did he ever make a collage of the people who died in the Sept 11th attacks to form Bin Ladens face? Just more sensationilist BS from Moore, his influence (god knows HOW he has any) had no bearing on the election...This is simply an act of desperation at this point.

 

[glugglug]

He'll be making movies about the upcoming impeachment.

GET CHENEY FIRST!

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Hey, MM isn't the only watchdog out there - there ARE others for both liberal and conservative sides.

Regardless, each has their place to keep things in check and even-keeled.

Well I have to admit MM certainly has enough ballast to keep something even keeled.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: glugglug
He'll be making movies about the upcoming impeachment.

GET CHENEY FIRST!

where is DonVito when you need him to make a quote out of your post ....also with a repub majority all around it is highly unlikely

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I don't see what's anti-american about Fahrenheit 9/11.
I also have yet to have anyone answer me when I ask for specific notation of lies contained in F9/11. I won't argue distortions and the like, but no one has been able to tell me about any outright lies.

distortions and lies are the same thing. Moore is actually quite brilliant in the way he has avoided outright lies. He manages to paint a 100% false picture of an event, but does it in a way that he can point to the footage and say that it is all real, thus avoiding losing slander lawsuits. He's really quite good at being a filthy, evil, devious, lying, piece of crap, without being held legally liable for the lies.

By interspersing various video footage, he gives the clear impression that certain events happened on the same day, but he never actually says they did. Things like making it seem that you can go into a bank and walk out with a gun a few minutes later. When in reality, it was quite some time later after fulfilling all the legal requirements. No, he didn't lie. Yes, he blatantly misrepresented the facts. I don't see how the way he does it is in any way better than just outright lying.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Stifko

Originally posted by: dwell
Is it safe to say his career is over or will four more years of Bush give him fuel for another "Fahrenheit 9/11" style "documentary"???

He will probably have enough material for a slew of films about this administration.

He never needed "material." He can make up enough to fill in where the facts dont help him.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
While I think MM is a bit radical, thank GOD for him - at least someone out there is being the watchdog that we need.

Watchdog? A "watchdog" as you mean it should be impartial. The only thing Mr. Moore is impartial to is the food he shoves into his cavernouse pie hole.

 

[villager]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I don't see what's anti-american about Fahrenheit 9/11.
I also have yet to have anyone answer me when I ask for specific notation of lies contained in F9/11. I won't argue distortions and the like, but no one has been able to tell me about any outright lies.

distortions and lies are the same thing. Moore is actually quite brilliant in the way he has avoided outright lies. He manages to paint a 100% false picture of an event, but does it in a way that he can point to the footage and say that it is all real, thus avoiding losing slander lawsuits. He's really quite good at being a filthy, evil, devious, lying, piece of crap, without being held legally liable for the lies.

By interspersing various video footage, he gives the clear impression that certain events happened on the same day, but he never actually says they did. Things like making it seem that you can go into a bank and walk out with a gun a few minutes later. When in reality, it was quite some time later after fulfilling all the legal requirements. No, he didn't lie. Yes, he blatantly misrepresented the facts. I don't see how the way he does it is in any way better than just outright lying.

Funny how people call MM a liar while defending liars whose lies have caused the deaths of hundreds of soldiers and probably have us occupying a country for several years. MM has defended himself very ably against his critics. Of course pill popping Rush and vibrator in the basement O Reilly lie on a daily basis. Any problems with them?

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various congressmen in Washington about sending their kids to fight the war in Iraq. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny thing is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselves above sending their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various folks in Washington, trying to catch them offguard and make them say something the general public should not hear. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny this is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselved above sending Their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

i disaagree... moore got so much attention because he is really the first of the kind... a rush of the democrats...

they are all douche bags that are ruining the country and politics as we know it...

ohh and dont forget coulter... shes just as bad...

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Who cares. Michael Moore started out as an honorable person when he made "Roger and Me", but I felt F911 was over the top. There was some truth to it, but the fact that he traveled to foreign countries and bashed the hell out of America made him a true a-hole.

no bowling for columbine where he intimidated charlton heston in his own home made him a-hole.

Definitely. I've met Mr. Heston and had a lengthy conversation with him some years ago. For all his fame he has to be the absolute nicest celebrity and most down to earth guy I've ever spoken with (and yes, there have been quite a few more).

GREAT speech made by Heston in 1999

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various folks in Washington, trying to catch them offguard and make them say something the general public should not hear. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny this is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselved above sending Their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

i disaagree... moore got so much attention because he is really the first of the kind... a rush of the democrats...

they are all douche bags that are ruining the country and politics as we know it...

ohh and dont forget coulter... shes just as bad...

When have Rush, O'Reilly or Coulter done something in the fashion of the example I gave of F-911 like Moore did, he is an expert at piecing things together and misleading people in a fashion that he knows will be interpretted exactly how he wants them to be.

I would group Sharpton and Dan Rather with Rush and O'Reilly...really, no one can touch Moore with a 10 ft pole.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various folks in Washington, trying to catch them offguard and make them say something the general public should not hear. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny this is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselved above sending Their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

i disaagree... moore got so much attention because he is really the first of the kind... a rush of the democrats...

they are all douche bags that are ruining the country and politics as we know it...

ohh and dont forget coulter... shes just as bad...

When have Rush, O'Reilly or Coulter done something in the fashion of the example I gave of F-911 like Moore did, he is an expert at piecing things together and misleading people in a fashion that he knows will be interpretted exactly how he wants them to be.

fine... i now im going to search the internet for ridiculous douche quotes just to prove you wrong... brb

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various folks in Washington, trying to catch them offguard and make them say something the general public should not hear. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny this is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselved above sending Their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

i disaagree... moore got so much attention because he is really the first of the kind... a rush of the democrats...

they are all douche bags that are ruining the country and politics as we know it...

ohh and dont forget coulter... shes just as bad...

When have Rush, O'Reilly or Coulter done something in the fashion of the example I gave of F-911 like Moore did, he is an expert at piecing things together and misleading people in a fashion that he knows will be interpretted exactly how he wants them to be.

fine... i now im going to search the internet for ridiculous douche quotes just to prove you wrong... brb

Uhh, quotes aren't gonna do it...Have any of them made a movie specifically directed at a political opponent, simply to turn public opinion against them....using collages of manipulated footage to do so?

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various folks in Washington, trying to catch them offguard and make them say something the general public should not hear. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny this is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselved above sending Their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

i disaagree... moore got so much attention because he is really the first of the kind... a rush of the democrats...

they are all douche bags that are ruining the country and politics as we know it...

ohh and dont forget coulter... shes just as bad...

When have Rush, O'Reilly or Coulter done something in the fashion of the example I gave of F-911 like Moore did, he is an expert at piecing things together and misleading people in a fashion that he knows will be interpretted exactly how he wants them to be.

fine... i now im going to search the internet for ridiculous douche quotes just to prove you wrong... brb

Heres the pill popper bustin on pill poppers

Rush Limbaugh Show, 9-23-93
LIMBAUGH: (Voiceover) He says that, I know every expert in the world will disagree with me, but I don't buy into the disease part of drug abuse. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you're making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that.'

What he's saying is that if there's a line of cocaine here, I have to make the choice to go down and sniff it. And I don't know how--how to do it, but if I was going to do it, I'd do it. If there were a gun here, it wouldn't fire itself. I've got to reach for it and--and pull the trigger. And his point is that we are rationalizing all this irresponsibility and all the choices people are making and we're blaming not them, but society for it. All these Hollywood celebrities say the reason they're weird and bizarre is because they were abused by their parents. So we're going to pay for that kind of rehab, too, and we shouldn't. It's not our responsibility.



and here is lady psychopath

Anne Coulter
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."


and then this ridiculousness...

COULTER: I take the biblical idea. God gave us the earth.


PETER FENN (Democratic strategist): Oh, OK.

COULTER: We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees.

FENN: This is a great idea.

COULTER: God says, "Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."

FENN: Terrific. We're Americans, so we should consume as much of the earth's resources...

COULTER: Yes! Yes.

FENN: ... as fast as we possibly can.

COULTER: As opposed to living like the Indians.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: BunLengthHotDog
Moore is in a different category from the likes of Rush and O' Reilly. Rush and O' Reilly simply like to hear themselves speak...I have yet to see them deliberately mislead the general public in a fashion similar to what Moore has done with F-911. Add to this that Rush and O' Reilly offer opinion based commentary, while Moore attempts to pass his work off as FACT.

One instance is his interviews of various folks in Washington, trying to catch them offguard and make them say something the general public should not hear. He asks 2 congressman if they would send their children to Iraq to fight the war, and in response both gentleman simply blew him off, waiving him away and not even addressing him.

Now, why would more include this in his "Documentary" you might ask? To give the impression that these guys would NOT send their children to Iraq, Hell....they can't even be bothered to respond.

Funny this is, NEITHER OF THEM EVEN HAVE ANY CHILDREN....but did Moore include this in the piece...no he didnt. I have to ask, why then would he include the footage of being waived off, it not to mislead the public into thinking these 2 men thought themselved above sending Their kids to fight a war.

While Rush and O'Reilly can be ridiculous, Moore is in a league all his own.

i disaagree... moore got so much attention because he is really the first of the kind... a rush of the democrats...

they are all douche bags that are ruining the country and politics as we know it...

ohh and dont forget coulter... shes just as bad...

When have Rush, O'Reilly or Coulter done something in the fashion of the example I gave of F-911 like Moore did, he is an expert at piecing things together and misleading people in a fashion that he knows will be interpretted exactly how he wants them to be.

fine... i now im going to search the internet for ridiculous douche quotes just to prove you wrong... brb

Uhh, quotes aren't gonna do it...Have any of them made a movie specifically directed at a political opponent, simply to turn public opinion against them....using collages of manipulated footage to do so?

when they tried the ridiculous spin on moore no one listened because we already know they are lairs...

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

what spin are you referring to exactly...I can go on and on citing specific examples of Moore's BS, can you reciprocate with examples of your own?

 

[SirStev0]

ok big guy ... here you go ... unfortunitely , rush has a radio show... not anything with video...

im not going to waste my time watching that horrible sinclair anti kerry movie ... and there is no main ass to blame that on... what i will give you is this little word twisting... because its complete ridiculousness...

RUSH-

Hillary Clinton blamed the Bush tax cuts for the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. Oh yes. Oh yes. She actually said it. I mean, I'm not expanding, I'm not exaggerating, I'm not interpolating - or [interpreting]. She actually said these massive tax cuts caused the terrorist attacks because it took away money from our preparedness budget.

What she really said...

My view on this, though, is pretty simple. We had eight years of prosperity because we paid down our debt and we got rid of our deficit. We hit a rough spot, and it was turned into a terrible bump because of the attacks of September 11.
If we hadn't passed the big tax cut last spring, that I believe undermined our fiscal responsibility and our ability to deal with this new threat of terrorism, we wouldn't be in the fix we're in today. But the fact is, we are.
And now we've got to figure out what's the best way out of it.



undermined != caused

 

[SirStev0]

i was referring to celsius 41.11 or whatever it was...

and btw any proof backing that moore claim of yours... googled it and didnt find much

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
i was referring to celsius 41.11 or whatever it was...

and btw any proof backing that moore claim of yours... googled it and didnt find much

Here is an interesting read...

Rebuttal to Farenheit 911

Try to put your personal beliefs aside and read that entire passage, then get back to me and tell me Moore is in the same league as the folks you mentioned.

EDIT : The example you listed is an interpretation, what Moore does is a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts. One could read what Hillary said and come to a similar conclusion to the one Rush came to. I am not gonna defend Rush however...I think he is an asshat all his own, but still nowhere near as bad as Moore. Its comparing apples to oranges, so your gonna have to come up with a better example than that

 

I see now he has a new DVD coming out. Looks pretty good

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: dwell
I see now he has a new DVD coming out. Looks pretty good

ROFL!

So this was the chop you were talking about when bbzzdd went down.

I'm ashamed that Canada gave that walking piece of sh!t "honourary citizenship."

- M4H

 

[mflacy]

So... Where's Michael Moore?

Sightings in the following places since the end of the election:

Arby's
Blimpie
Bun Boy
Burger King
Burgerville, USA
Chick-fil-A
Church's Chicken
Dairy Queen
Del Taco
El Pollo Loco
Fazoli's
Foster's Freeze
Der Wienerschnitzel
Hardee's
Hot Dog on a Stick
In-N-Out
Jack in the Box
KFC
Krispy Kreme
Krystal
Little Caesar
Long John Silver's
McDonald's
Nathan's Famous
Panda Express
Pioneer Chicken
Pizza Hut
Popeye's Fried Chicken
Quizno's
Roy Rogers
Sbarro
Shakey's Pizza
Sonic Drive-In
Steak and Shake
Submarina
Taco Bell
Taco Mayo
Taco Tico
Tastee Freeze
The Hat
Tim Hortons
Togo's Eateries
Una Mas!
Wendy's
Whataburger
White Castle