So who is going to give up meat?

Queasy

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?Al Gore?s riveting documentary ?An Inconvenient Truth? has focused public attention on the looming disaster of global warming and the associated flooding of coastal communities, extreme weather and destruction of habitat.

Most of us blame automotive and industrial emissions. But animal agriculture is a major culprit as well. It emits carbon dioxide from the burning of forests to create pastures and from combustion of fossil fuels to operate farm machinery, trucks, refrigeration equipment, factory farms and slaughterhouses. Methane is emitted from the digestive tracts of cattle and nitrous oxide from animal-waste cesspools.

According to a recent University of Chicago study, a meat-free diet reduces greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of 1.5 tons of carbon dioxide per year - as much as switching from an SUV to a hybrid car.

Folks who care about the future of life on Earth would be well advised to consider switching to a meat-free diet even before they switch to a hybrid car.?
 

TGS

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I see the only plausible solution is to genetically engineer cows to be tastier, and give off less methane.
 

Amused

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Who says liberalism isn't just as oppressive as the religious right?
 

dullard

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Extremes are not the solution. You'll never have success convincing the world to give up meat. We don't absolutely need meat to survive, but meat makes it much easier and tastier to have a healthy diet. We need multiple types of proteins, we need fat, we need tasty foods. Meat has that all. Thus, meat fits the bill much easier than most vegetarian diets. You'll never convince the world to switch. Heck, you'll probably never convince more than one person to switch in your entire life of trying.

Instead, moderation is the key. You might be able to convince the world to cut back on eating meat. One meal a day with meat is sufficient to satisfy nutrition and taste needs. There is no real need to eat meat on 4-5 meals a day. Lets go 70% of the way towards a meat-free diet. I made that switch years ago. I bet you can convince a lot of people to have a partly vegetarian lifestyle.
 

DaShen

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Between takes for the documentary, you know Al Gore was probably smacking down on some ribs with a nice honey glaze anyways.
 

RallyMaster

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RAWR! Must have my grilled chicken! My grilled salmon! My burgers! RAWR! Die you PETA fools. I ain't giving up mah KFC!
 

BAMAVOO

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Originally posted by: dullard
Extremes are not the solution. You'll never have success convincing the world to give up meat. We don't absolutely need meat to survive, but meat makes it much easier and tastier to have a healthy diet. We need multiple types of proteins, we need fat, we need tasty foods. Meat has that all. Thus, meat fits the bill much easier than most vegetarian diets. You'll never convince the world to switch. Heck, you'll probably never convince more than one person to switch in your entire life of trying.

Instead, moderation is the key. You might be able to convince the world to cut back on eating meat. One meal a day with meat is sufficient to satisfy nutrition and taste needs. There is no real need to eat meat on 4-5 meals a day. Lets go 70% of the way towards a meat-free diet. I made that switch years ago. I bet you can convince a lot of people to have a partly vegetarian lifestyle.

This is a good idea, if for nothing more than a healthier life.

I don't believe in Global Warming, so I wouldn't do it for that reason.

I could care less about an animal, so nope.

Your suggestion of once a day eating meat just strikes a nice chord with me.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: BAMAVOO
Your suggestion of once a day eating meat just strikes a nice chord with me.
I really did it for cost and lazyness. Cooking meat at home takes at least a half hour, if not more. And cooking meat at home costs as much if not more than eating out. So I slowly gravitated towards a mostly vegetarian cooking style. Then at work, I often bring a meat sandwhich or eat meat when we go out for lunch (2-3 times a week). It just turned out that I eat meat for lunch and not much for the rest of the day. Sure, I'll occasionally eat a steak or chicken or burger for dinner. I like the flexibility of the mostly vegetarian diet. I can eat anything at any time. Overall, it is a healthy, fast, and inexpensive diet.
 

Doboji

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Bring on the heat!!!! If I drown from flooding I'm going to die with a big hunk of cow flesh in my fist!!!!

VIVA LA CARNIVORE!!!
 

DrPizza

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1. I'm calling BS on that University of Chicago study. I'm betting that someone with an agenda decided to leave out (or simply didn't think of) some of the data... So what if cows release methane. The carbon in the methane didn't just spontaneously appear; it came from something the cow ate. Where did the corn get the carbon? From the air. As my beef and other meats don't come from South American countries where they're burning/cutting down the rain forest, the net increase in greenhouse gas emissions is simply related to the fossil fuels used to produce the beef/chicken. Having participated in all aspects of this, I can say with certainty that 1.5 tons of emissions per year for the amount of meat I eat is a gross exaggeration.

2. It's 2006. If you don't believe in global warming, you're an idiot. It seems that there are only 2 realistic views on it anymore: One - the human impact is insignificant compared to normal cycles, and we don't know enough about global weather patterns to know how we're affecting the. Two - camp one is understating the problem. 99.9% of scientists believe in global warming; most of the other .1% are paid by industries directly affected by measures taken to curb greenhouse gas emissions.

3. Is 1/2 hour really that much time to spend preparing a nice dinner? At least it sounds like you're eating healthy though. But for the rest of the instant gratification society who can't spend 1/2 hour cooking a nice dinner, it seems that they've opted for McD's instead. Beats me how you got the 1/2 hour figure for meat though; most don't take nearly that long. In fact, when I grill some steaks or chicken, I always start the potatoes at least 5 or 10 minutes before I start the meat.
 

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First of all, Al Gore is just another sensationalist trying to scare people and look like the good guy that cares about us and the earth. Global warming has never been proven to be caused by man and asking people to give up meat? That is rediculous. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that we are contributing to greenhouse gases, but the alarmist media has really blown it all out of proportion. Noone really knows if man is causing warmer temps or if it is just a natural cycle. You'd think the world was coming to and end if you listened to the media or Al Gore.

Besides if people gave up meat then they would certainly have to eat something else to fill that void. More vegetables would mean more farms and more farming which would be more greenhouse gas emissions. I am sure Al Gore or the University of Chicago or whoever didn't take into account that if we all quit eating meat then we would all be eatimg MORE of something else. What a stupid proposal. How unrealistic and impossible a task it would be to ask that everyone stop eating meat. Not me. Bring on the flame broiled bloody goodness that is a medium rare sirloin sizzling on the grill. Yum.
 

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If we quit killing the animals, their numbers will multiply to the point that they will gain global domination over us. I shudder when I think that my entire family might be wiped out by a herd of joyriding bovine youths. We must kill and eat the animals in the name of preserving our own species.
 

DrPizza

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I just finished reading all I could about that research study... it seems somewhat lacking, in my personal opinion; the researchers were operating quite a bit outside their areas of expertise (an oceanographer and a geologist). Sensationalistic reports like this are a dime a dozen. Then, the media distorts them even further.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Amused
Who says liberalism isn't just as oppressive as the religious right?

And just as apocalyptically whacky. According to either side we are going to be punished for our "sins." :roll:
 
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