and you double down. Great job.Reading your posts here, I think you should seriously consider re-enrolling back into 9th grade... you're in no position to hand out your ill-informed blanket statements judging by what you've commented in this subforum.
Also, I'm not from the States.... your typical Hilary voter is no different to me than your Trump voter: both easily fooled and exploited through emotional appeal. You slot perfectly into the same group..
As mentioned, democrats/liberals are overwhelming not racially resentful, which is why this factor is such an accurate predictor in our politics.
Seems rather simple that people vote in their perceived self-interest, so it's not hard to see why Trump's campaign to knock minorities down a few pegs in the competing order is quite appealing. It's not as if they're unaware of the better job circumstances back in the day when there weren't the brown people wedging their way in.
I understand why you feel the need to conceal this ugly truth. After all the liberal media and education have taught you it's shameful to think the way people did openly not too long ago.
No? One of these people isn't like the other.
Position on what exactly...?
What do you think it was?
Personally I don't think its Trump getting the racists out.. they were out in force against Obama.
I just think Hillary was too establishment and stealing Bernie out of his win came back to haunt her. Wrong candidate for this cycle.
Do you think Bernie would have beaten Trump? I think so.. looking at the primary.. all the blue states she lost tonight went for Bernie so it might have been resentment for her more so than love for Trump.
But as always, what do you guys think?
I hate this argument. I may be annoyed at a percentage (far greater than imagined) of Bernie supporters that refused to vote or went Trump, but only Hillary can own that and, more importantly--Trump gets tremendous credit for grabbing them.
That is on Hillary and no one else. She and the dems alone lost the most dependable voting block for the democratic party over the last ~century plus. She lost Obama's supporters, hard. There really is no other explanation. Dems have to own that and regroup or face the same political irrelevance that many assumed was coming to the republicans after this election.
The only positive that I can hope for out of Trump is that he acts as the bi-partisan enema that this country truly needs. If he can somehow be a moderate (and not let Pence do, well, anyfuckingthing) and make enough reforms to WS and political entitlements, hell--something that actually helps these people for the first time ever, it would be a welcome change. I honestly hope he can do that and I think you should hope for that as well.
Nope! You didn't vote for her so the results are on you. You are another whiny little bitch Bernie bro who didn't get your way and threw a temper tantrum. Own it!
You can claim Hillary was a horrible candidate all you want but if you thought trump was worse then the blame for getting him elected is on those that voted for a third party or didn't bother voting is on them. Its not like trump ran away with this election either, so their vote mattered. The onus is on the voters, period.
Own it.
You're the sort of person who compelled a lot of people to vote Trump. You do understand that, don't you? Probably not - listening and self-reflection don't really seem to be your thing.
You missed the point. The point isn't whether she was more or less honest than someone else - just that she didn't have a problem with being too honest. I can't find anything that says she was 'too honest' and plenty that says she was too dishonest not to mention the myriad of polls by places like NBC, WSJ, CBS etc finding her in the 60-70% range for 'viewed as dishonest'. You don't get the vast majority of Americans thinking you are dishonest by telling the truth too often
Should be obvious - your position on the number of trump voters.
*White, straight, Christian and predominantly male working class people. Virtually every other group swung heavily toward Clinton (see the chart below as a representative example). It just so happens that the US is still mostly white in battleground states.
Also, don't confuse anti-establishment sentiment with a frustration with liberal agendas. Or pretend that a self-proclaimed billionaire who evades taxes and represents big business is a man of the people. I suspect that people just thought Clinton was too establishment and voted accordingly.
No, you being a whiny little bitch, and caring more about your blemished boos-boos than the candidates and the election is what it is. Fact is Clinton never said bad shit to you, but someone else did, but fuck if you aint gonna be a vile wretched hrafnasueltir and throw a diaper tantrum. You support Brexit perchance?
Hurry! Someone get this guy a safe space!! My words are too strong of an influence for him to be overcome by independent thought!
You're the sort of person who compelled a lot of people to vote Trump. You do understand that, don't you? Probably not - listening and self-reflection don't really seem to be your thing.
No, you being a whiny little bitch, and caring more about your blemished boos-boos than the candidates and the election is what it is. Fact is Clinton never said bad shit to you, but someone else did, but fuck if you aint gonna be a vile wretched hrafnasueltir and throw a diaper tantrum. You support Brexit perchance?
I figured comprehension wasn't happening. You pick your side and look down on the ignorant white racist people, which is apparently everyone. Disregard everyone else and cry havoc. Your true equivalents on the Right will do the same and you and they will stand smug in their self rightness, standing on the corner like the Pharisees of old loudly thanking whatever higher power they might consider existing, that they are not like those "sinners".
What fools these mortals be.
Would you like to try that argument with me?
As someone who doesn't give 2 shits about politics, I watched the debates for pure entertainment values, and I cannot understand how someone could vote for someone who acted the way he did during the presidential debates.
Not sure what 'evades taxes' has to do with this since both candidates do it. The Clinton's have at least 3 trusts that afford them lower tax rates and all of which circumvent estate taxes. If you read her tax plan trusts receive no additional scrutiny so she has no plans to kill the golden goose she's using. Thats one of the reasons I don't like her - lots of populist talk on subjects but little meaningful action.
As someone who doesn't give 2 shits about politics, I watched the debates for pure entertainment values, and I cannot understand how someone could vote for someone who acted the way he did during the presidential debates.
So why did Hillary lose?
1- Hillary cheated in the primaries and got caught.
2- A large voting population was adversely affected by NAFTA. Are they going to vote for the guy who is trying to repeal it, or for the WIFE of the guy who enacted it?
3- No-fly zone in Syria is an awful policy plan.
4- Trump's campaign contributions are not dominated by big banks and media companies.