Pacquiao is suing Mayweather & Golden Boy Promotions for defamation. All you law people - does he have a case? ESPN Article
Pacman is looking like a complete fraud, lol. We have went from
1. He is afraid of needles (But when quetioned about his numerous tattoos) we then went to
2.He will take the blood tests, but not random still (hmm ?) and not 30 days before the fight (hmm ?) and only after the fight. HGH and numerous other PEDs are not detected by urine tests and can leave the body in 30 days. Then we went to
3. I don't trust the Olympic testers, (I can understand this? I mean they are only testers for the OLYMPICS), then we went to
4. I don't even want John McCain, a US senator and fight fan to try and negotiate the impasse, because I don't trust him either (hmmm, ironically Manny is running for a public office seat, but he doesn't trust a politician, OK) we then went to
5. I will agree to Nevada State commission to do the testing, but still no random blood testing (Arum says they know how to test boxers. And I guess some how the OLYMPIC testers don't know how, hmmmm....ok) then we go to the latest
6. I don't want to fight, no I want to fight, calling out Floyd (but surprise surprise still no random testing, ah heck) this is on Christmas Eve now we get to Christmas Day
7. Now its I am going to sue because people now are asking me do I do drugs. (Well Manny is not like you are giving people a whole lot of reasons not to suspect you of doing PEDs) Manny maybe instead of suing, you might try taking the random blood tests and making 20+ million. And I think the other guy has to endure the same tests Manny.
PBF is not likable, but at least he is willing to prove his acccomplishments are drug free. And Manny is willing to prove............?
Why could they not agree to testing up to the day before the fight, and immediately after the fight? That seems like it should satisfy both parties if they're being honest about their motives. It's not like they're giving a pint of blood. Don't they do blood tests during the Tour de France? Wikipedia says they test the stage leader, the overall leader and two random riders after every stage, but it doesn't specify blood or urine. I think it's blood though, because Floyd Landis failed a blood test. The Tour de France is more physically demanding than a boxing match, but the riders aren't complaining about being tested when they have to ride the next day.
Pussy Boy Floyd is running from an ass-whooping.
Just to set the record straight:
1 - Manny never said the whole needle nonsense. Those were Arum's comments.
2 - Again, comments made by Roach and Arum. Roach then compromised, saying that blood tests are fine up until 3 days before the fight.
3 - Again, Arum's comments. Arum feels that USADA and GBP are in cohoots, which is why Arum wants it done by NSAC.
4 - When did Manny even address the McCain thing? I have yet to hear official commentary from Top Rank or Manny regarding McCain helping with negotiations.
5 - Arum said NSAC can do as many tests as they want up until a few days before the fight. Blood test immediately after the fight too. As much urine as Pretty Boy Floyd's camp wants. The main issue is HGH isn't detected in blood, but most people use HGH + steroids - the steroids will be detected in the urine.
6 - http://bit.ly/8jsSt9 - Manny approves of testing, just not the day of the fight.
7 - Why not sue? Floyd Sr. accused him of steroids when he's passed every single test for the last few years. Manny has agreed to testing to clear his name already.
Look at everything above. The common theme among the whole confusion is Bob Arum; he's getting in a pissing match with GBP. Arum's mad b/c it's GBP who's making the demands now, and he's the one that doesn't want to give in. You also gotta consider the bad blood between Mayweather and Arum. If anything, a lot of this is just boxing negotiations gone wrong because of people's egos.
To see what's really going on, you gotta look at what Manny and Roach say. Both of them agreed to blood testing, just not super close to the fight b/c they feel it'll weaken Manny. The last time Manny gave blood the day of the fight, he lost to Morales I believe. Might not be logical, but you want to be your best physically and psychologically. And for those people saying he might juice up the day of the fight, steroids in such a short window won't help; you gotta use them during training to get bigger.
Of course, this could all just be hype coming from Top Rank and Golden Boy to draw interest in the fight. Just wait and see - too much money for the fight to not happen.
what are the 'standard' testing procedures, if any, in place now? is mayweather asking for something out of what is standard today?
what are the 'standard' testing procedures, if any, in place now? is mayweather asking for something out of what is standard today?
Well you're off on a several things
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/...dviser-wonders-what-manny-pacquiao-has-to-hi/
It had appeared that Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 knockouts) and Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) were in agreement in principle with all of the fight deal's negotiation parameters, including a 50-50 financial split, competition at the 147-pound limit, eight-ounce gloves, and an Olympic-style random drug test at the request of Mayweather's camp.
But recently, Pacquiao, believing that giving blood so close to fight time would weaken him, has told his handlers that he would supply blood only 30 days out or beyond from the fight or directly after the fight, according to his promoter, Bob Arum.
"Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one 30 days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny's locker room," said Arum.
Arum speaks on behalf of Manny and Roach. Manny does not want to be tested by blood within 30 days of the fight, period. I and a whole lot of other people can only come to one conclusion as to why. Mayweather has agreed to 8 ounce gloves (despite breaking his hand twice I believe in 8 ounce gloves). He also agreed to pay millions if he comes in over the weight limit. So now he says do random blood testing and what does Manny do?
Threatens to sue, not take the random blood tests, and throw away 20+ million. This guy is a fraud. And there is something else that really stands out about his refusal to take the random blood testing. He will make a minimum 20 million for this fight. This guy has probably earned 30-40 million in the ring total. He would take a purse in this one fight that would come close to his total career earnings, but yet he refuses to take random blood testing. Yeah ok. This guy is a cheater and he has fooled everybody.
Hardly... Mayweather is asking for Olympic style drug testing. If these guys were fighting for a gold medal this is what they would have to subject themselves to.
Pacquiao is ducking the test because he juices. There is no other reason for his refusal to adhere to this kind of testing. His proposed alternate time-frame for testing leaves him open to juice and clean out prior to testing.
If he refuses nobody will ever take him seriously again. And they shouldn't. He'll be the Barry Bonds of boxing.
Hardly... Mayweather is asking for Olympic style drug testing. If these guys were fighting for a gold medal this is what they would have to subject themselves to.
Pacquiao is ducking the test because he juices. There is no other reason for his refusal to adhere to this kind of testing. His proposed alternate time-frame for testing leaves him open to juice and clean out prior to testing.
If he refuses nobody will ever take him seriously again. And they shouldn't. He'll be the Barry Bonds of boxing.
Funny you mention that, why don't you look up on google the time it takes for some steroids to not be detected in a screen, you might be surprised at how uninformed you really are.. and boy you are uninformed. Hint: start with oral, it'll save you some time.Who are you, Floyd Sr.?
Please find me a drug that you can start taking suddenly 3 days before a fight and have it out of your system 3 days later. You have got to be shitting me. Get off mayweather's nuts lol
Money may can't turn it down. You know he keeps a private jet.
Funny you mention that, why don't you look up on google the time it takes for some steroids to not be detected in a screen, you might be surprised at how uninformed you really are.. and boy you are uninformed. Hint: start with oral, it'll save you some time.