So you can choose whether or not to be gay?

[Conky]

What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

If one truly has no power over what turns them on then why do people look down on people who are into beastiality? I'm not saying this to be a troll but think about it... if a person can't help these urges then why hate them for it? This is the logic behind acceptance for gays so it seems to be a logical extension.

I think people can choose to live normal lives. I'm not attracted to men, children, corpses, or animals so it's a bit easier for me. Although I saw a 15 yr-old at the grocery today who made me question the child thing but I did the right thing and didn't offer her any candy.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

If one truly has no power over what turns them on then why do people look down on people who are into beastiality? I'm not saying this to be a troll but think about it... if a person can't help these urges then why hate them for it? This is the logic behind acceptance for gays so it seems to be a logical extension.

I think people can choose to live normal lives. I'm not attracted to men, children, corpses, or animals so it's a bit easier for me. Although I saw a 15 yr-old at the grocery today who made me question the child thing but I did the right thing and didn't offer her any candy.

Stupidest argument ever. It's inevitable. Someone always compares homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia.

Two thing are wrong with this. First, it assumes Homosexuality is somehow deviant. It's no more deviant than heterosexual sex. Ever seen Gia? I bet you wouldn't call that deviant. Secondly, homosexual sex is CONSENTUAL, and no more harmful than heterosexual sex if done responsibly. A child can't consent and a goat definately can't. Though, there are some pretty slutty goats out there.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

If one truly has no power over what turns them on then why do people look down on people who are into beastiality? I'm not saying this to be a troll but think about it... if a person can't help these urges then why hate them for it? This is the logic behind acceptance for gays so it seems to be a logical extension.

I think people can choose to live normal lives. I'm not attracted to men, children, corpses, or animals so it's a bit easier for me. Although I saw a 15 yr-old at the grocery today who made me question the child thing but I did the right thing and didn't offer her any candy.

Stupidest argument ever. It's inevitable. Someone always compares homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia.

Two thing are wrong with this. First, it assumes Homosexuality is somehow deviant. It's no more deviant than heterosexual sex. Ever seen Gia? I bet you wouldn't call that deviant. Secondly, homosexual sex is CONSENTUAL, and no more harmful than heterosexual sex if done responsibly. A child can't consent and a goat definately can't. Though, there are some pretty slutty goats out there.

It's all how the world views it. Probably somewhere down the road beastiality will be like being gay is now. I'm sure homosexuals were frowned upon back in the day just how beastiality is now. Plus when was the last time a pet consented for anything. So in order for these dog breeders they must get consent from the dog before they can push another dog onto them?

So in short, beastiality, no matter how disgusting it is for most people, is not anymore disgusting than what some straight people think of homosexuality.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: KK
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

If one truly has no power over what turns them on then why do people look down on people who are into beastiality? I'm not saying this to be a troll but think about it... if a person can't help these urges then why hate them for it? This is the logic behind acceptance for gays so it seems to be a logical extension.

I think people can choose to live normal lives. I'm not attracted to men, children, corpses, or animals so it's a bit easier for me. Although I saw a 15 yr-old at the grocery today who made me question the child thing but I did the right thing and didn't offer her any candy.
</end quote></div>

Stupidest argument ever. It's inevitable. Someone always compares homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia.

Two thing are wrong with this. First, it assumes Homosexuality is somehow deviant. It's no more deviant than heterosexual sex. Ever seen Gia? I bet you wouldn't call that deviant. Secondly, homosexual sex is CONSENTUAL, and no more harmful than heterosexual sex if done responsibly. A child can't consent and a goat definately can't. Though, there are some pretty slutty goats out there.</end quote></div>


It's all how the world views it. Probably somewhere down the road beastiality will be like being gay is now. I'm sure homosexuals were frowned upon back in the day just how beastiality is now. Plus when was the last time a pet consented for anything. So in order for these dog breeders they must get consent from the dog before they can push another dog onto them?

So in short, beastiality, no matter how disgusting it is for most people, is not anymore disgusting than what some straight people think of homosexuality.

I have nothing against animal-fucking. I'm just concerned about animal cruelty. But comparing same-sex relations to inter-species relations is RETARDED. And, regardless of how the world views it (and it's not really the world, Europe and Canada are much more progressive about this stuff), this kind of argument needs to be shot down every time.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

I have nothing against animal-fucking. I'm just concerned about animal cruelty. But comparing same-sex relations to inter-species relations is RETARDED. And, regardless of how the world views it (and it's not really the world, Europe and Canada are much more progressive about this stuff), this kind of argument needs to be shot down every time.

Who says its cruel to animals? Haven't you ever seen a dog try to hump a leg? If the dog initiates it, that would be the consent you are looking for, right?

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: KK
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

I have nothing against animal-fucking. I'm just concerned about animal cruelty. But comparing same-sex relations to inter-species relations is RETARDED. And, regardless of how the world views it (and it's not really the world, Europe and Canada are much more progressive about this stuff), this kind of argument needs to be shot down every time.
</end quote></div>

Who says its cruel to animals? Haven't you ever seen a dog try to hump a leg? If the dog initiates it, that would be the consent you are looking for, right?

Sure. Fuck him. I don't care.

 

[patentman]

My brother is gay, and I asked him this same question. He said it wasn;t a choice for him, he just likes what he likes.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

If one truly has no power over what turns them on then why do people look down on people who are into beastiality? I'm not saying this to be a troll but think about it... if a person can't help these urges then why hate them for it? This is the logic behind acceptance for gays so it seems to be a logical extension.

I think people can choose to live normal lives. I'm not attracted to men, children, corpses, or animals so it's a bit easier for me. Although I saw a 15 yr-old at the grocery today who made me question the child thing but I did the right thing and didn't offer her any candy.
</end quote></div>

Stupidest argument ever. It's inevitable. Someone always compares homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia.

Two thing are wrong with this. First, it assumes Homosexuality is somehow deviant. It's no more deviant than heterosexual sex. Ever seen Gia? I bet you wouldn't call that deviant. Secondly, homosexual sex is CONSENTUAL, and no more harmful than heterosexual sex if done responsibly. A child can't consent and a goat definately can't. Though, there are some pretty slutty goats out there.

What if you had a gay baby sheep though....

 

[lupi]

I took a big crap the other day, and it kinda hurt on the way out so I know I'm not gay.

 

[Confusednewbie1552]

Originally posted by: lupi
I took a big crap the other day, and it kinda hurt on the way out so I know I'm not gay.

Ah..the old crap test. :thumbsup:

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
I compare trying to be gay or not gay (depending on what you are now) as trying to use my left hand to write when I'm right-handed.

That's not a good comparison. My mom is left handed and writes with her right hand. They forced her to in Catholic school. :Q

 

[Jeff7]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KK
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

I have nothing against animal-fucking. I'm just concerned about animal cruelty. But comparing same-sex relations to inter-species relations is RETARDED. And, regardless of how the world views it (and it's not really the world, Europe and Canada are much more progressive about this stuff), this kind of argument needs to be shot down every time.
</end quote></div>

Who says its cruel to animals? Haven't you ever seen a dog try to hump a leg? If the dog initiates it, that would be the consent you are looking for, right?</end quote></div>
He might be looking to give, not receive.

Originally posted by: Shawn
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JohnCU
I compare trying to be gay or not gay (depending on what you are now) as trying to use my left hand to write when I'm right-handed.</end quote></div>

That's not a good comparison. My mom is left handed and writes with her right hand. They forced her to in Catholic school. :Q

That was the case with my grandmother. She said that her teachers thought she was just trying to be a PITA by writing left-handed, so she'd get her hand whacked with a ruler. Now she can write with either hand, and is reasonably ambidextrous.

 

[GeekDrew]

It's a choice for some guys. It's not a choice for some guys. Enough with the debates already, nobody is ever going to win.

I've never been attracted to any gender other than male. I strongly doubt I ever will be. I have no desire to be attracted to any gender but male. Anyone that tries to force me to change will face my wrath... and if not, my death. <shrug>

 

[jackace]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

If one truly has no power over what turns them on then why do people look down on people who are into beastiality? I'm not saying this to be a troll but think about it... if a person can't help these urges then why hate them for it? This is the logic behind acceptance for gays so it seems to be a logical extension.

I think people can choose to live normal lives. I'm not attracted to men, children, corpses, or animals so it's a bit easier for me. Although I saw a 15 yr-old at the grocery today who made me question the child thing but I did the right thing and didn't offer her any candy.
</end quote></div>

Stupidest argument ever. It's inevitable. Someone always compares homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia.

Two thing are wrong with this. First, it assumes Homosexuality is somehow deviant. It's no more deviant than heterosexual sex. Ever seen Gia? I bet you wouldn't call that deviant. Secondly, homosexual sex is CONSENTUAL, and no more harmful than heterosexual sex if done responsibly. A child can't consent and a goat definately can't. Though, there are some pretty slutty goats out there.

he was not talking about the sex act itself. he was talking about the person's mind and what causes them to feel and think a certain way.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?

Because we all know that children, corpses, and animals are the exact same thing as mentally-capable human beings with free will and a recognized ability to consent to sexual intercourse.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: cKGunslinger<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Conky
What about people who are attracted to children in a sexual way? Or attracted to corpses? Or animals?
</end quote></div></end quote></div>

Because we all know that children, corpses, and animals are the exact same thing as mentally-capable human beings with free will and a recognized ability to consent to sexual intercourse.</end quote></div>

I'm talking about the thought process involved.

So what would you say about incest between brother and sister(or between two brothers) who are of legal age? Where's the harm there? Some might consider that OK but it's still considered illegal and immoral in most cultures.

I believe people can choose to do or not do things certain things. It's the thing that separates us from animals.

P.S. In the future please do not do partial quotes without noting your edit. It's bad debating form.

 

[ABitTooSpicy]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I'm considering becoming a gay guy that doesn't put out. That way, dudes will keep spending money on me for dinner, drinks, and movies, but they ain't gettin' none of this

if you ain't tight... you ain't right!

 

[cjgallen]

"I know that homosexuality can be overcome because that's the story of my life," she said. Fryrear said she lived as a lesbian for nearly a decade before becoming a Christian and later "overcoming" her homosexuality through a long process of change and self-examination.

Duh, she was born gay, then she was BORN AGAIN straight

 

[rise]

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[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: KK
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Jeff7
To those who say that homosexuality is a choice, I always must ask, did you choose to be heterosexual? Was it posed to you at some point early in puberty, "Choose your path: homosexual or heterosexual."</end quote></div>

yes, I chose not too be gay. I don't find guy's balls that attractive. If you do then that's your choice. Anybody could be gay if they want to be. "Want" is the key word.

But you could choose to find testicles attractive if you wanted? You should try that out, just to see if you're right.
Simply having sex with someone of the same gender doesn't make you gay (but it sure helps ). I suppose you're right in that anyone could choose to do so, but that doesn't make them gay.