Apples suck because they use Intel processors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7glN_jMpM
Hypocrite much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7glN_jMpM
Hypocrite much?
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
-The commercials are no worse than the "Windows Mojave" commercials.
Originally posted by: her209
Apples suck because they use Intel processors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7glN_jMpM
Hypocrite much?
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: venkman
-I guess you are unlucky with Vista. My Vista laptop has crashed maybe twice since I've owned it (Feb 2008).
-Maybe the mouse issue would be fine if they weren't so overpriced for a mighty mouse.
-No, the mac commercials are worse. Simply from the fact that they are on much more.
-Which part do you want me to prove on price?
-Games can also apply to other software. I'm not in the mac community, maybe tons of codec pacs and useful freeware/other software like mkv2vob run great on Macs. somehow i doubt it. As for the OP, it is kind of silly to say, "why does product X suck" and stipulating that you shouldn't mention one of the biggest reasons it sucks.
-I call it iTouch as a short hand. I know apple fanboys are obsessed with saying the entire name of their product. Most people refer to electronics as a "my computer, my laptop, my ipod, or my cell phone" while apple people seem to have a need to say "My MacBook Air, my Macbook Pro 17", my iphone 3G, or my Gen 2 ipod Touch 8GB even when the additional information is completely unnecessary.
-Good to know they finally added this feature, too bad I have to pay $10 for it.
-Microsoft and Sony added a ridiculous amount of new features to their consoles via firmware and I didn't have to pay for any of it. MS also added a ton of new firmware features to the zune and they are available for free for my 1st Gen Zune 30GB.
-Quicktime is pretty much enough crapware. Plus, it keeps trying to get me to download a bunch of other crap onto my Gateway P-6831FX 17" Gaming Laptop. I don't fall for it, but a less savvy computer user probably has that crap gumming up their PC.
-Why does the price of the mighty mouse matter? If you don't like the mouse, don't buy it. Use an old crappy mouse from your basement.
-Maybe my whole family is just unlucky with Vista then. And the rest of the known universe that has Vista crap out on them more often than you.
-I see more Mojave commercials on TV than I do the Mac commercials. Again, might be a regional thing, but I can't remember the last time I saw a Mac commercial on by me (SE Michigan)
-IMHO Spec-for-spec the price is not too dissimilar. If you can show me that a VERY similarly spec'd dell costs SIGNIFICANTLY less than a MacBook I'll concede the point. But I've found this to not be true, and everyone in this thread is just claiming it as "known information."
-I've yet to find much software that doesn't work on my mac in one form or another. I was worried about this when I got rid of my last notebook and got my MacBook, but I've found it to be a moot point. I have no problem watching MKV files or any XVID/DVIX or any other sound codec that you can think of. And as for the OP, he stated that people don't buy Macs for Gaming. So if you don't buy something with the intent to play games on it, it's a moot point if it doesn't play games well. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But it was never intended as a gaming platform.
-iTouch just sounds ridiculous. iTouch is as ridiculous as iVideo, iNano, iClassic, iShuffle. No one calls them that, except people that don't know any better.
-Comparing consoles to the iPod touch? Try taking your PS3 in your pocket. Good luck. Can you download podcasts onto your Zune via Wifi? (Actual question, I do not know)
-Again, I've never had any problems with quicktime wanting to install other crap. I'm still not sure what you're referring to.
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: venkman
-I guess you are unlucky with Vista. My Vista laptop has crashed maybe twice since I've owned it (Feb 2008).
-Maybe the mouse issue would be fine if they weren't so overpriced for a mighty mouse.
-No, the mac commercials are worse. Simply from the fact that they are on much more.
-Which part do you want me to prove on price?
-Games can also apply to other software. I'm not in the mac community, maybe tons of codec pacs and useful freeware/other software like mkv2vob run great on Macs. somehow i doubt it. As for the OP, it is kind of silly to say, "why does product X suck" and stipulating that you shouldn't mention one of the biggest reasons it sucks.
-I call it iTouch as a short hand. I know apple fanboys are obsessed with saying the entire name of their product. Most people refer to electronics as a "my computer, my laptop, my ipod, or my cell phone" while apple people seem to have a need to say "My MacBook Air, my Macbook Pro 17", my iphone 3G, or my Gen 2 ipod Touch 8GB even when the additional information is completely unnecessary.
-Good to know they finally added this feature, too bad I have to pay $10 for it.
-Microsoft and Sony added a ridiculous amount of new features to their consoles via firmware and I didn't have to pay for any of it. MS also added a ton of new firmware features to the zune and they are available for free for my 1st Gen Zune 30GB.
-Quicktime is pretty much enough crapware. Plus, it keeps trying to get me to download a bunch of other crap onto my Gateway P-6831FX 17" Gaming Laptop. I don't fall for it, but a less savvy computer user probably has that crap gumming up their PC.
-Why does the price of the mighty mouse matter? If you don't like the mouse, don't buy it. Use an old crappy mouse from your basement.
-Maybe my whole family is just unlucky with Vista then. And the rest of the known universe that has Vista crap out on them more often than you.
-I see more Mojave commercials on TV than I do the Mac commercials. Again, might be a regional thing, but I can't remember the last time I saw a Mac commercial on by me (SE Michigan)
-IMHO Spec-for-spec the price is not too dissimilar. If you can show me that a VERY similarly spec'd dell costs SIGNIFICANTLY less than a MacBook I'll concede the point. But I've found this to not be true, and everyone in this thread is just claiming it as "known information."
-I've yet to find much software that doesn't work on my mac in one form or another. I was worried about this when I got rid of my last notebook and got my MacBook, but I've found it to be a moot point. I have no problem watching MKV files or any XVID/DVIX or any other sound codec that you can think of. And as for the OP, he stated that people don't buy Macs for Gaming. So if you don't buy something with the intent to play games on it, it's a moot point if it doesn't play games well. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But it was never intended as a gaming platform.
-iTouch just sounds ridiculous. iTouch is as ridiculous as iVideo, iNano, iClassic, iShuffle. No one calls them that, except people that don't know any better.
-Comparing consoles to the iPod touch? Try taking your PS3 in your pocket. Good luck. Can you download podcasts onto your Zune via Wifi? (Actual question, I do not know)
-Again, I've never had any problems with quicktime wanting to install other crap. I'm still not sure what you're referring to.
Originally posted by: videogames101
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...MB323LL/A?mco=NzMyNjMy
I configured that for 4GB memory and a 500GB HDD.
Cost? $1,524.00
Rig below, cost? ~1400$ when I built it, probably lower now.
It's outperforms the mac in every way, by a long shot. In every category, w/e test you want, my PC which is cheaper and will outperform the mac. I have a quad-core, a HD4870, which macs couldn't even dream of having until years after release, and a larger HDD.
/thread
Originally posted by: videogames101
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...MB323LL/A?mco=NzMyNjMy
I configured that for 4GB memory and a 500GB HDD.
Cost? $1,524.00
Rig below, cost? ~1400$ when I built it, probably lower now.
It's outperforms the mac in every way, by a long shot. In every category, w/e test you want, my PC which is cheaper and will outperform the mac. I have a quad-core, a HD4870, which macs couldn't even dream of having until years after release, and a larger HDD.
/thread
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: videogames101
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...MB323LL/A?mco=NzMyNjMy
I configured that for 4GB memory and a 500GB HDD.
Cost? $1,524.00
Rig below, cost? ~1400$ when I built it, probably lower now.
It's outperforms the mac in every way, by a long shot. In every category, w/e test you want, my PC which is cheaper and will outperform the mac. I have a quad-core, a HD4870, which macs couldn't even dream of having until years after release, and a larger HDD.
/thread
Did you build it with everything built into the monitor? That's one big draw of the iMacs. Plus, If you're going to use the building argument, configure it with base stats and add the new memory and HDD yourself. Super easy to do, and nothing you wouldn't do while building your mac. Show me the price of something pre-built (i.e. not something you build yourself) and then we can talk.
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: venkman
-I guess you are unlucky with Vista. My Vista laptop has crashed maybe twice since I've owned it (Feb 2008).
-Maybe the mouse issue would be fine if they weren't so overpriced for a mighty mouse.
-No, the mac commercials are worse. Simply from the fact that they are on much more.
-Which part do you want me to prove on price?
-Games can also apply to other software. I'm not in the mac community, maybe tons of codec pacs and useful freeware/other software like mkv2vob run great on Macs. somehow i doubt it. As for the OP, it is kind of silly to say, "why does product X suck" and stipulating that you shouldn't mention one of the biggest reasons it sucks.
-I call it iTouch as a short hand. I know apple fanboys are obsessed with saying the entire name of their product. Most people refer to electronics as a "my computer, my laptop, my ipod, or my cell phone" while apple people seem to have a need to say "My MacBook Air, my Macbook Pro 17", my iphone 3G, or my Gen 2 ipod Touch 8GB even when the additional information is completely unnecessary.
-Good to know they finally added this feature, too bad I have to pay $10 for it.
-Microsoft and Sony added a ridiculous amount of new features to their consoles via firmware and I didn't have to pay for any of it. MS also added a ton of new firmware features to the zune and they are available for free for my 1st Gen Zune 30GB.
-Quicktime is pretty much enough crapware. Plus, it keeps trying to get me to download a bunch of other crap onto my Gateway P-6831FX 17" Gaming Laptop. I don't fall for it, but a less savvy computer user probably has that crap gumming up their PC.
-Why does the price of the mighty mouse matter? If you don't like the mouse, don't buy it. Use an old crappy mouse from your basement.
-Maybe my whole family is just unlucky with Vista then. And the rest of the known universe that has Vista crap out on them more often than you.
-I see more Mojave commercials on TV than I do the Mac commercials. Again, might be a regional thing, but I can't remember the last time I saw a Mac commercial on by me (SE Michigan)
-IMHO Spec-for-spec the price is not too dissimilar. If you can show me that a VERY similarly spec'd dell costs SIGNIFICANTLY less than a MacBook I'll concede the point. But I've found this to not be true, and everyone in this thread is just claiming it as "known information."
-I've yet to find much software that doesn't work on my mac in one form or another. I was worried about this when I got rid of my last notebook and got my MacBook, but I've found it to be a moot point. I have no problem watching MKV files or any XVID/DVIX or any other sound codec that you can think of. And as for the OP, he stated that people don't buy Macs for Gaming. So if you don't buy something with the intent to play games on it, it's a moot point if it doesn't play games well. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But it was never intended as a gaming platform.
-iTouch just sounds ridiculous. iTouch is as ridiculous as iVideo, iNano, iClassic, iShuffle. No one calls them that, except people that don't know any better.
-Comparing consoles to the iPod touch? Try taking your PS3 in your pocket. Good luck. Can you download podcasts onto your Zune via Wifi? (Actual question, I do not know)
-Again, I've never had any problems with quicktime wanting to install other crap. I'm still not sure what you're referring to.
I downloaded the upcoming best buy added from hot deals and a quick glance shows:
Macbook - $999 for 2.1Ghz 1 GB Ram 120 GB HDD Crappy Integrated Video (intel x 3100)
Dell XPS X1330 -$899 for 2.1 Ghz 4 GB Ram 320 GB HDD Crappy, but better integrated video (geforce 8400)
So you pay $100 less and you get much better specs. This is straight from Best Buy as well, it doesn't even consider all the deals you can get through hot deals and coupons that are always floating around.
-watching MKV files isn't my issue, it is converting them into a file format usable on my PS3. The big software companies like divx don't make stuff like this, it is left up to community developers to fill in the gaps and they usually only develop for windows.
-call it an ipod then, i still don't get the obsession with letting the world know exactly which apple product you own.
-I sort of can put a PS3 in my pocket, it's called a PSP Granted the graphics aren't nearly as good and I can't figure out how to play a blu ray on it. But the argument still holds since the PSP has received a number of free firmware downloads that have added significant features. As for the Zune downloading podcasts, the Zune doesn't come with a built in web browser. You might as well ask me if my microwave can download podcasts.
-Maybe apple doesn't send the crapware out onto the mac version of itunes/quicktime or maybe it's already built into your system.
That was an example of Apple bashing of Intel. Think much?Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Wow. Fail much? At least 15 year old commercial, not even bashing Intel chips, but the Pentium II in particular.Originally posted by: her209
Apples suck because they use Intel processors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7glN_jMpM
Hypocrite much?
Do you?Are you sure you know the definition of the word Hypocrite?
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: videogames101
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...MB323LL/A?mco=NzMyNjMy
I configured that for 4GB memory and a 500GB HDD.
Cost? $1,524.00
Rig below, cost? ~1400$ when I built it, probably lower now.
It's outperforms the mac in every way, by a long shot. In every category, w/e test you want, my PC which is cheaper and will outperform the mac. I have a quad-core, a HD4870, which macs couldn't even dream of having until years after release, and a larger HDD.
/thread
Did you build it with everything built into the monitor? That's one big draw of the iMacs. Plus, If you're going to use the building argument, configure it with base stats and add the new memory and HDD yourself. Super easy to do, and nothing you wouldn't do while building your mac. Show me the price of something pre-built (i.e. not something you build yourself) and then we can talk.
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: venkman
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: venkman
-I guess you are unlucky with Vista. My Vista laptop has crashed maybe twice since I've owned it (Feb 2008).
-Maybe the mouse issue would be fine if they weren't so overpriced for a mighty mouse.
-No, the mac commercials are worse. Simply from the fact that they are on much more.
-Which part do you want me to prove on price?
-Games can also apply to other software. I'm not in the mac community, maybe tons of codec pacs and useful freeware/other software like mkv2vob run great on Macs. somehow i doubt it. As for the OP, it is kind of silly to say, "why does product X suck" and stipulating that you shouldn't mention one of the biggest reasons it sucks.
-I call it iTouch as a short hand. I know apple fanboys are obsessed with saying the entire name of their product. Most people refer to electronics as a "my computer, my laptop, my ipod, or my cell phone" while apple people seem to have a need to say "My MacBook Air, my Macbook Pro 17", my iphone 3G, or my Gen 2 ipod Touch 8GB even when the additional information is completely unnecessary.
-Good to know they finally added this feature, too bad I have to pay $10 for it.
-Microsoft and Sony added a ridiculous amount of new features to their consoles via firmware and I didn't have to pay for any of it. MS also added a ton of new firmware features to the zune and they are available for free for my 1st Gen Zune 30GB.
-Quicktime is pretty much enough crapware. Plus, it keeps trying to get me to download a bunch of other crap onto my Gateway P-6831FX 17" Gaming Laptop. I don't fall for it, but a less savvy computer user probably has that crap gumming up their PC.
-Why does the price of the mighty mouse matter? If you don't like the mouse, don't buy it. Use an old crappy mouse from your basement.
-Maybe my whole family is just unlucky with Vista then. And the rest of the known universe that has Vista crap out on them more often than you.
-I see more Mojave commercials on TV than I do the Mac commercials. Again, might be a regional thing, but I can't remember the last time I saw a Mac commercial on by me (SE Michigan)
-IMHO Spec-for-spec the price is not too dissimilar. If you can show me that a VERY similarly spec'd dell costs SIGNIFICANTLY less than a MacBook I'll concede the point. But I've found this to not be true, and everyone in this thread is just claiming it as "known information."
-I've yet to find much software that doesn't work on my mac in one form or another. I was worried about this when I got rid of my last notebook and got my MacBook, but I've found it to be a moot point. I have no problem watching MKV files or any XVID/DVIX or any other sound codec that you can think of. And as for the OP, he stated that people don't buy Macs for Gaming. So if you don't buy something with the intent to play games on it, it's a moot point if it doesn't play games well. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But it was never intended as a gaming platform.
-iTouch just sounds ridiculous. iTouch is as ridiculous as iVideo, iNano, iClassic, iShuffle. No one calls them that, except people that don't know any better.
-Comparing consoles to the iPod touch? Try taking your PS3 in your pocket. Good luck. Can you download podcasts onto your Zune via Wifi? (Actual question, I do not know)
-Again, I've never had any problems with quicktime wanting to install other crap. I'm still not sure what you're referring to.
I downloaded the upcoming best buy added from hot deals and a quick glance shows:
Macbook - $999 for 2.1Ghz 1 GB Ram 120 GB HDD Crappy Integrated Video (intel x 3100)
Dell XPS X1330 -$899 for 2.1 Ghz 4 GB Ram 320 GB HDD Crappy, but better integrated video (geforce 8400)
So you pay $100 less and you get much better specs. This is straight from Best Buy as well, it doesn't even consider all the deals you can get through hot deals and coupons that are always floating around.
-watching MKV files isn't my issue, it is converting them into a file format usable on my PS3. The big software companies like divx don't make stuff like this, it is left up to community developers to fill in the gaps and they usually only develop for windows.
-call it an ipod then, i still don't get the obsession with letting the world know exactly which apple product you own.
-I sort of can put a PS3 in my pocket, it's called a PSP Granted the graphics aren't nearly as good and I can't figure out how to play a blu ray on it. But the argument still holds since the PSP has received a number of free firmware downloads that have added significant features. As for the Zune downloading podcasts, the Zune doesn't come with a built in web browser. You might as well ask me if my microwave can download podcasts.
-Maybe apple doesn't send the crapware out onto the mac version of itunes/quicktime or maybe it's already built into your system.
Okay, so I'll concede on the price for Best Buy, but that same laptop directly from dell is more expensive. I do think Apple should have more promotional pricing than they do currently.
I stream files to my PS3 just fine from my MacBook, there are plenty of software programs out there that will do this.
That's fine if you call it an ipod, I don't care one bit. But adding one word to the end doesn't signify the end of the world. iTouch is just ridiculous.
And I'm not sure I get your analogy with the microwave, you don't use the web browser to download podcasts on my ipod, which does have wifi. So since the zune doesn't have wifi, doesn't it fail automatially?
I have itunes/quicktime installed on my desktop (vista) and still have no issues with it asking me to install bloatware/crapware.
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Originally posted by: videogames101
http://store.apple.com/us/conf...MB323LL/A?mco=NzMyNjMy
I configured that for 4GB memory and a 500GB HDD.
Cost? $1,524.00
Rig below, cost? ~1400$ when I built it, probably lower now.
It's outperforms the mac in every way, by a long shot. In every category, w/e test you want, my PC which is cheaper and will outperform the mac. I have a quad-core, a HD4870, which macs couldn't even dream of having until years after release, and a larger HDD.
/thread
Did you build it with everything built into the monitor? That's one big draw of the iMacs. Plus, If you're going to use the building argument, configure it with base stats and add the new memory and HDD yourself. Super easy to do, and nothing you wouldn't do while building your mac. Show me the price of something pre-built (i.e. not something you build yourself) and then we can talk.
Originally posted by: coldmeat
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
-The commercials are no worse than the "Windows Mojave" commercials.
I try to stay out of the whole mac vs pc thing, but mac commercials are a lot worse than the Mojave commercials. The Mojave commercials are promoting Windows, while the mac commercials are mostly bashing pcs.
Originally posted by: her209
That was an example of Apple bashing of Intel. Think much?Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Wow. Fail much? At least 15 year old commercial, not even bashing Intel chips, but the Pentium II in particular.Originally posted by: her209
Apples suck because they use Intel processors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r7glN_jMpM
Hypocrite much?
Do you?Are you sure you know the definition of the word Hypocrite?
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I like the iPod Touch's wifi/Safari/internet combo. It works quite well. Other devices can't do a good job like it.
But Windows > mac, nuff said.
Originally posted by: venkman
-I'm in Southeast Michigan as well and I see way more Mac vs PC commercials. I think i've seen a Mojave commercial about four times. Granted, I DVR just about everything I watch so I don't see many commercials anymore so the point is moot.
-Streaming never works well for me as converting and loading the file on a usb disk does, but you are getting bogged down in the specifics of the MKV issue. The point is that the smaller community developers and the in house business software is usually done only for windows.
- I'll just call it a touch then, but then I might confuse people who think I'm talking about my cell phone (Touch Diamond)
-The microwave analogy implies that a product not designed to do a function or doesn't have the setup to complete that function shouldn't be penalized. The ipod touch has a wifi and a web browser, so I should be able to browse to 1up.com, download a podcast, and listen to it right then and there. The Zune has wifi only, how do I get to 1up? Sure, MSFT could have designed additional software to do this, but they didn't and I knew that going in, so I'm not going to penalize them. I can use the wifi to download the podcast from another zune user IIRC. Apple has all of the tools already built into the touch to do this, so they should be able to do this. You said it was added as a firmware update, that's great, now can you tell me how to do it without paying $10? Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my Ipod Touch, I use it more than any mp3 player i've ever owned (including the Zune) When in a Wifi area, I will ALWAYS choose to use my touch over my Cell Phone's Wifi. The web browser is absolutly fantastic. I just can't stand iTunes.
as for the updates, all I can guess is that you installed all of them when you first installed quicktime, so thats why it doesnt prompt you.
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Why even have this argument? Some people like Apple and most like PC. And no apple fanboi can deny it, building a PC adds tons more of flexibility than having an Apple, hands down. If you disagree you need to get your trendy head out of your ass.
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
I just browed the iTunes store, typed in 1Up and got a bunch of podcasts I can download. But with the cost thing, it's always been interesting that people who buy a $200-300 MP3 player won't pay $10 to increase the functionality of it. Especially since it's fixing all of the issues you're complaining about.
I've conceded the price issue for the most part, but that's still what most people are claiming as the deciding factor as to why apple "sucks." In that case, I think a lexus "sucks" because I have to pay so much more for what I can get from ford!