Originally posted by: Eeezee
I dislike Apple's products because of the hypocrisy involved with so many of its products.
Originally posted by: theblackbox
Originally posted by: CKent
1) Same hardware as PCs, much higher pricing.
2) Customers are all fashion-wannabe pretentious assholes.
3) Much higher percentage of revenue spent on advertising, for what this does to pricing see 1)
4) Mentality of Apple being right. No options in sight, if you don't like a certain function, you are wrong and must adapt to the Right way of doing it, Apple's. Mostly applies to their software.
5) Games? Hello? Games?
6) Itunes is bloated shit and quicktime is malware.
Don't get me wrong, as a business they're doing all the right things and have the success to show for it. I can't fault them for doing what businesses are created to do - make money. But their methods are laughable and I'd die before buying their products. I do have an Ipod, it was free. It's pretty lame and I had to rockbox it to make it behave as it should (load it easily as a usb storage device, play flac/ogg, etc.).
1. really? show me withe the mac pro, the highest priced computer made by apple.
Very Well - for comparison's sake, I went on Newegg and built a fairly standard modern PC that exactly matches the hardware in a MacPro that I've also assembled. Notice that this price for the MacPro doesn't include a monitor, and I reduced the number of processors to 1 because two processors in a PC is excessive and actually kind of stupid (you don't double your performance like you might think, the increase in performance is actually pretty small for having a second processor).
$315 - 2.8GHz Quad-Core CPU, 12MB of L2
$200 - Equivalent motherboard (actually closer to $120-$150, but overinflated for your benefit)
$180 - 4x1GB DDR2 800MHz
$60 - 320GB SATA2 HDD
$50 - ATI Radeon HD2600 XT 256MB ($30 after rebate, but meh)
$30 - 16x dual-layer DVD burner
$50 - NICE USB Mouse
$35 - NICE USB Keyboard
$100 - Good Antec Power Supply
$100 - A nice case
$1120 total
Did I forget anything? I don't think so.
Mac Pro with the same or possibly worse hardware, since they don't say anything about the power supply or motherboard - $2299.00
Even if you tack on $400 for labor and $200 for some additional hardware improvements, that's nearly $600 extra you're paying just for the Mac brand name.
How about we build a similar Alienware desktop? That should be fun. $1649 for the Area-51 X58 gets you better hardware than the Mac Pro (DDR3 instead of DDR2 RAM and a 512MB 9800 GT). That's still a $600 saving!
2. really? thats nice. typical stereotype.
And it's mostly true. Apple stores are full of smugness. Even Apple supporters agree with this. How about you bring some evidence to the contrary? I can show you any number of Apple commercials showing off the stereotype that you're trying to rally against.
3. can't argue that. they like advertising, but most companies do, advertising is a part of business.
Yes, but Apple attempted to mock Microsoft for spending money on advertising.
http://industry.bnet.com/techn...ising-budget-revealed/
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...than-microsoft-vistas/
Does Apple really need half a billion dollars in advertising to market its superior products? According to Apple's own estimates, Microsoft only spends $300 million on Windows advertising. This is the epitome of hypocrisy.
4. thats why they offer bootcamp?
Okay, so you've verified his point. Why is it so bad to want multiple ways to do the same thing?
Is this how you usually debate? By agreeing with your opponent?
5. you should learn to read, we covered this. but hey, a lot of gamers make a living gaming, right.
Why is it okay to ignore this point? And actually, there are a fair number of gamers who DO make a living gaming. Furthermore, are you trying to claim that anyone requires a Mac to make a living? Sorry, but every good piece of software (video recording, photography, etc.) is not only compatible with Windows, but usually compatible with Linux!
6. only in windows, and if you hate it so much, don't use it.
And in Linux, which is why so many people use quicktime alternative. Crippling your software for other operating systems is not a good business practice. How can you possibly make an excuse for this? Shit, even Microsoft made Office work well in a Mac environment.
gosh the ipod is so lame, but wha about it's competition? all the ipod and any other mp3 player is basically amounts to a fancy music player. wow. thats deep.
The difference being price - the equivalent MP3 player from just about any other manufacturer is 25%-50% of the iPod price for the exact same features.
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