So you think you're a l33t h4x0r? $100,000 says you can't crack this one!

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b0mbrman

Lifer
Jun 1, 2001
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<< "The best hackers in the world" better be great mathematicians too from the looks of it
from what i understand...most are. but i get your point.
>>


You don't understand much then Being a mathematician is a FAR, FAR cry away from being an excellent hacker.
>>


Most great mathematicians aren't great hackers
Most great hackers are great mathematicians...
 

CSoup

Senior member
Jan 9, 2002
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<<

<<

<< "The best hackers in the world" better be great mathematicians too from the looks of it
from what i understand...most are. but i get your point.
>>


You don't understand much then Being a mathematician is a FAR, FAR cry away from being an excellent hacker.
>>


Most great mathematicians aren't great hackers
Most great hackers are great mathematicians...
>>



I'd like to see data to back up this statement. I doubt someone like Mitchnik (famous hacker) is a great mathematician. I'll classify great as being of the level of theoretical math profs at schools like UChicago, Princeton, Cornell, or Harvard. Basically, people who are at or near the level of Fields Medal winners.
 

krystalogik

Senior member
Dec 6, 2001
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<< From what it looks like, the depth of each digit in the bodacian is A-Z0-9, giving a radix of 36. Since there are a total of 8 digits in each bodacion, that gives you 36^8, or 2821109907456, permutations to get a correct bodacion. But, since you can't guess, and since you can't know whether or not you've discovered a correct bodacion, brute forcing is futile.

Anyone else actually going to give it a shot?
>>



After reading the info on HYDRA (which everyone should do before attempting this), I found that there are only 32 valid characters, thus making 1099511627776 possibilities. which is about 40% of the possibilities you stated. (IMO thats a hell of a lot less numbers to think about.) But your'e correct in saying that brute forcing is futile. I think that was the point.

I do like that the Bodacion people said to send them an email if you think you're close though.
 

krystalogik

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Dec 6, 2001
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SESSION BODACIONS
Session bodacions are designed for rapid generation, but are not guaranteed to be
unique outside of a temporal cycle. The server generates 1,065,151,889,408 (about one
trillion) bodacions before it repeats a value if all bodacions are requested in a constant
stream. The actual number generated before repeating depends on system restarts and
idle time.


Anyone else see this and think of a bodacion server generating bodacions from the host clock, or something else specific to the server? (maybe the value at a memory address at the time the request for a bodacion is given?)

UNIQUE BODACIONS
Unique bodacions are guaranteed not to repeat for a minimum of 28 years from the activation
of the server. During this time, the server can generate 32 unique bodacions per
second. Unique bodacions are the most difficult to guess, but their numbers are limited.

So it will repeat.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
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<<<< This probably could be cracked by a mathematcian before a h4x0r. I'd try doing a probability analysis on what symbol came up the most often in the first position, second position... etc. You'd PROBABLY get the right answer. >>



You have to show your work.

No credit for a correct answer without proof that you knew what you were doing.

Viper GTS>>


If my idea worked, and the most probable answer was the correct one, I don't see how it could be a guess. Would I not still be able to get into their system and read their codes? I'd say some guy who can get the correct answer on the first try knows what he's doing
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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<< Most great mathematicians aren't great hackers
Most great hackers are great mathematicians...
>>



That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
13,968
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<< If my idea worked, and the most probable answer was the correct one, I don't see how it could be a guess. >>



Read that again. The very nature of propability is nondeterministic. They clearly stipulate that you have to give them an unambiguous methodology for obtaining the correct result, for each set of bodacions given.
 

Descartes

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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<< Anyone else see this and think of a bodacion server generating bodacions from the host clock, or something else specific to the server? (maybe the value at a memory address at the time the request for a bodacion is given?) >>



That's plausible. GUIDs are 128-bit, and are generated by using a combination of the host's current time, and the MAC address of one, or all, of the NICs on the host. I've heard that GUIDs will be unique until the year 3040. If the bodacions are "seeded" by something unique to the bodacion host, it will make it rather difficult to isolate any level of determinism.
 

microAmp

Diamond Member
Jul 5, 2000
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<< Is it just me, or does this seem a weeeee bit complex to anyone else? >>



For someone like me oh hell yah!
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Very complex yes, I'm merely a junior in HS taking AP Calc, I don't have nearly the understanding to figure this out, but at the same time looks very very ineteresting.
 

GermyBoy

Banned
Jun 5, 2001
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This looks fun, thanks. I'll be sure to tell you the answer in a few months after collecting my 100 grand.
 

narzy

Elite Member
Feb 26, 2000
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<< The next one is

1MS-TU-P1D

Now, where's my money!?!
>>



LMAO! hehe thats great
 
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