Soccer or American Football

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: xfalconx2
Yes, but you realize soccer is skill with the feet right? It's very difficult to master foot-eye coordination because it is just unnatural for us. To be able to run at full speed and be under complete control of the ball requires a greater amount of skill than American football.

Its a different skill. It doesn't make it any harder. How much hand-eye coordination is needed for a QB to deliver a football accurately to a moving target that is ten, twenty, or even thirty yards away within a five to seven second window?

not as much as doing that with your feet while sprinting, keeping the ball with you, fending off defenders, and still trying to get the shot off. /end devils advocate

 

[doze]

American football b/c I grew up with it

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: xfalconx2
Yes, but you realize soccer is skill with the feet right? It's very difficult to master foot-eye coordination because it is just unnatural for us. To be able to run at full speed and be under complete control of the ball requires a greater amount of skill than American football.

Its a different skill. It doesn't make it any harder. How much hand-eye coordination is needed for a QB to deliver a football accurately to a moving target that is ten, twenty, or even thirty yards away within a five to seven second window?

not as much as doing that with your feet while sprinting, keeping the ball with you, fending off defenders, and still trying to get the shot off. /end devils advocate

I'd be more impressed if the goal 4x smaller and moving and the defenders were allow to tackle you to the ground without penalty.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Another thing I love about soccer is the atmosphere at games.

Instead of just screaming, the fans actually sing songs. You can't understand it unless you goto a major club or international game but the who stadium just swells up with emotion as the fans sing to lift up their team.

Oh man, I attended all four '94 World Cup games at the Silverdome. It was just insane. I wish the US team had a proper anthem (not the national anthem) like the other countries/club teams.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: xfalconx2
Yes, but you realize soccer is skill with the feet right? It's very difficult to master foot-eye coordination because it is just unnatural for us. To be able to run at full speed and be under complete control of the ball requires a greater amount of skill than American football.

Its a different skill. It doesn't make it any harder. How much hand-eye coordination is needed for a QB to deliver a football accurately to a moving target that is ten, twenty, or even thirty yards away within a five to seven second window?

not as much as doing that with your feet while sprinting, keeping the ball with you, fending off defenders, and still trying to get the shot off. /end devils advocate

I'd be more impressed if the goal 4x smaller and moving and the defenders were allow to tackle you to the ground without penalty.

sounds like you never played either football, or american football. defenders are allowed to go for the ball, and trust me, it isn't always clean just because the ref didn't see it. people complain about no goals being scored, you think it's easy to hit that net from 90 feet out? pfft..

how bout american football? the goal is the entire width of the field, now that's pathetic!

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: xfalconx2
Yes, but you realize soccer is skill with the feet right? It's very difficult to master foot-eye coordination because it is just unnatural for us. To be able to run at full speed and be under complete control of the ball requires a greater amount of skill than American football.

Its a different skill. It doesn't make it any harder. How much hand-eye coordination is needed for a QB to deliver a football accurately to a moving target that is ten, twenty, or even thirty yards away within a five to seven second window?

not as much as doing that with your feet while sprinting, keeping the ball with you, fending off defenders, and still trying to get the shot off. /end devils advocate

I'd be more impressed if the goal 4x smaller and moving and the defenders were allow to tackle you to the ground without penalty.

sounds like you never played either football, or american football.

Ad hom attacks. You must be losing it.

defenders are allowed to go for the ball, and trust me, it isn't always clean just because the ref didn't see it.

Being allowed to go for the ball is not the same as someone being allowed to tackle you.

people complain about no goals being scored, you think it's easy to hit that net from 90 feet out? pfft..

So they are the equivalent of a place kicker. Whoop dee doo!

how bout american football? the goal is the entire width of the field, now that's pathetic!

Apparently you don't understand how scoring works.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: xfalconx2
Yes, but you realize soccer is skill with the feet right? It's very difficult to master foot-eye coordination because it is just unnatural for us. To be able to run at full speed and be under complete control of the ball requires a greater amount of skill than American football.

Its a different skill. It doesn't make it any harder. How much hand-eye coordination is needed for a QB to deliver a football accurately to a moving target that is ten, twenty, or even thirty yards away within a five to seven second window?

not as much as doing that with your feet while sprinting, keeping the ball with you, fending off defenders, and still trying to get the shot off. /end devils advocate

I'd be more impressed if the goal 4x smaller and moving and the defenders were allow to tackle you to the ground without penalty.

sounds like you never played either football, or american football.

Ad hom attacks. You must be losing it.

defenders are allowed to go for the ball, and trust me, it isn't always clean just because the ref didn't see it.

Being allowed to go for the ball is not the same as someone being allowed to tackle you.

people complain about no goals being scored, you think it's easy to hit that net from 90 feet out? pfft..

So they are the equivalent of a place kicker. Whoop dee doo!

how bout american football? the goal is the entire width of the field, now that's pathetic!

Apparently you don't understand how scoring works.

lol, you're ridiculous. none of that is equivalent. like i said, if you had played...maybe you'd understand. apparently there's no reasoning with ignorance! enjoy your bliss.

 

[RichUK]

Can I just chuck something into the mix (being as this thread is only focused on American sport)?

 

[Bucks]

Premiership soccer... If you don't like soccer watch some games. MLS doesn't even compare. MLS games are boring and such, but the atmosphere and skill level is amazing at EPL games.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Another thing I love about soccer is the atmosphere at games.

Instead of just screaming, the fans actually sing songs. You can't understand it unless you goto a major club or international game but the who stadium just swells up with emotion as the fans sing to lift up their team.

so they're bored and drunk, big deal

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: ch33zw1z

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: xfalconx2
Yes, but you realize soccer is skill with the feet right? It's very difficult to master foot-eye coordination because it is just unnatural for us. To be able to run at full speed and be under complete control of the ball requires a greater amount of skill than American football.

Its a different skill. It doesn't make it any harder. How much hand-eye coordination is needed for a QB to deliver a football accurately to a moving target that is ten, twenty, or even thirty yards away within a five to seven second window?

not as much as doing that with your feet while sprinting, keeping the ball with you, fending off defenders, and still trying to get the shot off. /end devils advocate

I'd be more impressed if the goal 4x smaller and moving and the defenders were allow to tackle you to the ground without penalty.

sounds like you never played either football, or american football.

Ad hom attacks. You must be losing it.

defenders are allowed to go for the ball, and trust me, it isn't always clean just because the ref didn't see it.

Being allowed to go for the ball is not the same as someone being allowed to tackle you.

people complain about no goals being scored, you think it's easy to hit that net from 90 feet out? pfft..

So they are the equivalent of a place kicker. Whoop dee doo!

how bout american football? the goal is the entire width of the field, now that's pathetic!

Apparently you don't understand how scoring works.

lol, you're ridiculous.

Another ad hom attack.

none of that is equivalent.

Where are your supporting arguments? Saying it doesn't make it true.

like i said, if you had played...maybe you'd understand.

Riiight. Since I don't play golf, I don't understand how difficult it is for Tiger Woods to make those shots, right?

apparently there's no reasoning with ignorance! enjoy your bliss.

Yeah, obviously! :roll:

 

[Patt]

Soccer is a much more 'accessible' sport. You don't have to be an absolute freak of nature to play the professional game. All it takes to play is one ball, no other equipment is needed, which is why it has flourished around the world.

 

[xSauronx]

i find soccer more interesting to watch and more fun to play

never cared for our american football at all

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Another thing I love about soccer is the atmosphere at games.

Instead of just screaming, the fans actually sing songs. You can't understand it unless you goto a major club or international game but the who stadium just swells up with emotion as the fans sing to lift up their team.

so they're bored and drunk, big deal

Really, truly, there is no sporting atmosphere like a European football (soccer) game - and I've watched a lot of sports.

There are drums in the crowd, trumpets, flares and fireworks, 50 foot flags... people care y'know? If you think Americans care about baseball, and Australians about rugby, they don't. Not really. Football fans really *really* care, and that's what makes the singing different.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Another thing I love about soccer is the atmosphere at games.

Instead of just screaming, the fans actually sing songs. You can't understand it unless you goto a major club or international game but the who stadium just swells up with emotion as the fans sing to lift up their team.

so they're bored and drunk, big deal

Really, truly, there is no sporting atmosphere like a European football (soccer) game - and I've watched a lot of sports.

There are drums in the crowd, trumpets, flares and fireworks, 50 foot flags... people care y'know? If you think Americans care about baseball, and Australians about rugby, they don't. Not really. Football fans really *really* care, and that's what makes the singing different.

When is the last time you've been to an NFL playoff game?

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
When is the last time you've been to an NFL playoff game?

I seen them on TV, looks like fun...

but It's got nothing on England vs Italy or Brazil vs Argentina.

 

[Amused]

Don't like sports much... but if I had to pick I'd say American Football.

 

[GoingUp]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Another thing I love about soccer is the atmosphere at games.

Instead of just screaming, the fans actually sing songs. You can't understand it unless you goto a major club or international game but the who stadium just swells up with emotion as the fans sing to lift up their team.

so they're bored and drunk, big deal

Really, truly, there is no sporting atmosphere like a European football (soccer) game - and I've watched a lot of sports.

There are drums in the crowd, trumpets, flares and fireworks, 50 foot flags... people care y'know? If you think Americans care about baseball, and Australians about rugby, they don't. Not really. Football fans really *really* care, and that's what makes the singing different.

When is the last time you've been to an NFL playoff game?

Whens the last time an entire nation came to a standstill on a weekday for a football game? Oh thats right, never.

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Another thing I love about soccer is the atmosphere at games.

Instead of just screaming, the fans actually sing songs. You can't understand it unless you goto a major club or international game but the who stadium just swells up with emotion as the fans sing to lift up their team.

so they're bored and drunk, big deal

Really, truly, there is no sporting atmosphere like a European football (soccer) game - and I've watched a lot of sports.

There are drums in the crowd, trumpets, flares and fireworks, 50 foot flags... people care y'know? If you think Americans care about baseball, and Australians about rugby, they don't. Not really. Football fans really *really* care, and that's what makes the singing different.

When is the last time you've been to an NFL playoff game?

Whens the last time an entire nation came to a standstill on a weekday for a football game? Oh thats right, never.

That's because the playoffs are on the weekend.

 

[CKent]

Poll needs "Seppuku" option

 

[AntareStar]

I say FootBall you can't beat the excitement of seeing someone's lights goin out for a couple of seconds after a nice little tackle fercking wide receivers they should be called suicide receivers. Soccer is nice too, definitely more fun to play.

 

[xtknight]

Volleyball.

 

[cronos]

i grew up knowing absolutely nothing about american football and all around me it's all about soccer, all the time. but i couldn't stand watching it and never understood how people like it so much. i tried hard so many times because most of my friends are crazy about it. lots and lots of staying up late night with my college buddies to watch a game (live night game + time difference) but it always ended up with me practically falling asleep before even half time. it's a total bore for me but i kept trying mostly just to hang out. on the inside i actually have given up, there is no way i could enjoy watching this sport.

so i finished college and came here to the US for grad school, watched american football for the very first time (it was a college game on TV if i remember correctly) with a friend next to me explaining how the game plays (i had zero idea at the time), and i got totally hooked ever since (~6 years ago or so).

i always compare these two games in the analogy of computer games. i've always been a fan of turn-based strategy/RP games but can't stand RTS or FPS. i think this is kind of like that. soccer = real time (you develop your strategy as you go along while the clock is ticking). football = turn-based (although there is a general 'overall' strategy everything is technically offense vs. defense on a per-play basis). the latter is just much more entertaining for me.

 

[SampSon]

I like American Football more. I played soccer for a few years and liked it, but once I got into Lacrosse, soccer fell to the wayside.
They are pushing MLS in America really hard on TV, but it's not catching. Which is surprising considering how many kids are playing soccer at a young age. Soccer on TV is horribly dull, I can't really get into watching a sport where a LOT of contests will end up 0-0. Yes I know there are high scoring games, but really, thoes are minimal.

I think that soccer is so popular across the world because it's an incredibly simple sport to get involved in. You don't need a tremendous amount of equipment to play and it's really not that expensive to pick up. I look at third world nations in South America and think about children playing soccer on the streets with little more than a ball and a make-shift "goal". You can also play in just about any sort of weather, short of mabey snow, which I'm sure is totally playable too (I've done it). All of the factors involved in the sport make it the logical choice for it being the "world game". I think it boils down to money and ease of ability to participate at all levels.

With ANY sport it takes an amazing amount of athleticism to play at a professional level. All sports have their finer points that the true fans really enjoy. Comparing two sports and saying which one is "better" is silly. All of you actually arguing over which is better might as well whip out your little weenies and just measure them. Anyone who really enjoys sports should be able to appreciate any game out there, even if they don't totally dig on it.

As for soccer, if the euros are so damn sophisticated why are there so many riots and deaths associated with soccer games? Ya know we gun loving, violence embracing, ignorant, egotistical Americans don't riot and have body counts at football games!

Anyway, everyone knows Hockey is the best.

 

[Chaotic42]

Soccer bores the hell out of me. You're right, there's probably more finesse and planning involved in it, but not nearly enough for me to waste three hours watching it. American football, on the other hand, has more action and is more likely to keep my attention.