Many MSNBC haters don't seem to remember or know about that sad history of the network. Phil Donahue's show was cancelled in that time frame before it even got off the ground.
Actually MSNBC does put a spin on things. For instance they fired anchors who were critical of Bush and the Iraq war, and pressured journalists not to be critical of the president when his approval ratings were high.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2008/05/29/yellin/print.html[FONT=times new roman, times, serif][/FONT]edit: You added this after I posted
I'm sure if a memo was leaked from MSNBC instructing anchors and reporters to call the patriot act the police state act because its what the democrats wanted that would be totally cool right?
Another thing to keep in mind is it's not white Mexicans immigrating, after all they live good in Mexico but instead it's the indigenous immigrating, aka American Indian, one could claim they have rights to be here so it's controversial calling them illegal
You kidding? "Progressives" LOVE the war. Of course they don't want people to be critical of it. Seriously, the war is absolutely central to everything they're trying to do. Without the "war", there is no Patriot Act, there is no DHS, and there is no control over every aspect of our lives. The war is absolutely paramount. It must be there to keep the chattle in line...er, I mean, the people safe.
It doesn't make spin right. That said, though, people who watch Fox News and MSNBC know what they're getting. They watch it for a reason...namely, they watch it because it tells them what they want to hear. It's a TV station.
So in dreboland, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld et al were secret Progressives pushing their nefarious agenda?You kidding? "Progressives" LOVE the war. Of course they don't want people to be critical of it. Seriously, the war is absolutely central to everything they're trying to do. Without the "war", there is no Patriot Act, there is no DHS, and there is no control over every aspect of our lives. The war is absolutely paramount. It must be there to keep the chattle in line...er, I mean, the people safe.
What part of ILLEGAL that those idiots don't understand?
Allow me: ILLEGAL = not legal = against the law = bad.
If Latinos think the term ILLEGAL is offensive to them, they are more than welcome to leave the US and tell those potential ILLEGALS/invading hordes to enter the US legally.
"Undocumented" sounds more objective to me. "Illegal" implies guilt, and in this country we have a presumption of innocence.
Just pointing out that "Against the law" does not necessarily equate to "bad".
But that's another discussion altogether.
Thats like saying we can't call people thieves or murderers because they are presumed innocent.
People can be assumed innocent about being an illegal immigrant, thats fine, but if you did, in fact, immigrate here illegally then you are an illegal immigrant.
Just pointing out that "Against the law" does not necessarily equate to "bad".
But that's another discussion altogether.
"Undocumented" sounds more objective to me. "Illegal" implies guilt, and in this country we have a presumption of innocence.
Thats like saying we can't call people thieves or murderers because they are presumed innocent.
People can be assumed innocent about being an illegal immigrant, thats fine, but if you did, in fact, immigrate here illegally then you are an illegal immigrant.
...which has me scratching my head as to why the OP would even bother to post this bullshit.
Journalists say "ALLEGED thieves" and "ALLEGED murderers" until a person is convicted in court.
Yeah all those "no blood for oil protester" types really loved the war. I don't think you know what a progressive really is.
The point that sailed over your head was MSNBC doesn't represent a liberal view, its just corporate/government controlled media just like fox. They just advertise their product to a different demographic.
The DHS by the way was formed in 2002, when Bush was president and republicans controlled congress. Patriot act was passed even earlier. So as you pointed out before if you're going to point the finger at the progressives for DHS/Patriot Act (who exactly?) and say its part of some big plot you damn sure have to do the same to the other side and look at Republicans/Democrats.
And before you waste my time pointing out that a lot of democrats were involved in forming DHS and passing the Patriot Act, democrat /= liberal.
Whereas we can see you are clearly accepting of those who think differently than you. Unlike the brainwashed liberals.
Yes, some people do claim that. I wonder why?
shorten it up and call em what they are. Criminals.
Your quote about telling them to use the term Government Option doesn't prove bias, infact, it shows that they wanted their reporters to call it what it is. GOVERNMENT mandated healthcare.