Socket 2011 Longevity

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nenforcer

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is this going to be $800 (cpu+mobo) hardware?

Yes, between $600 to $800 since its the high end enthusiast platform. Motherboards around $300 to start and the chips from $300 to $500 for the entry level 4 and 6 core. The 8 core will probably be a $1000 extreme chip.
 
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Yes, between $600 to $800 since its the high end enthusiast platform. Motherboards around $300 to start and the chips from $300 to $500 for the entry level 4 and 6 core. The 8 core will probably be a $1000 extreme chip.

That's what I was guessing. Hence the reason why an i7 970 is waiting for me at the post office, yay! :biggrin:
 

DigDog

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i don't know, this pricing leaves me cold; i find it hard to justify this expense since - in my opinion - the true value of these chips is their longevity; but intel prices them so high, you can afford to buy the best consumer-range product, and to have enough left to replace them when the next cycle comes along.

rather than "enthusiast", they should call this the "professional" line, as in "you need something which makes the chip pay for itself", like professional video editing.
 

Twotenths

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You won't be done just with a MB and CPU. It supports DDR4 ram so that will need upgrading as well.
 

Cableaddict

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I assume, though, that at least cpu coolers will not have to be upgraded, since the physical dimension is te same as with the existing 2011. Correct?


- Every dollar counts !
 

(sic)Klown12

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I assume, though, that at least cpu coolers will not have to be upgraded, since the physical dimension is te same as with the existing 2011. Correct?


- Every dollar counts !

That's my take. If it required a new mounting system, we would have heard about new products and upgrade kits from cooler manufactures by now.
 

Twotenths

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I assume, though, that at least cpu coolers will not have to be upgraded, since the physical dimension is te same as with the existing 2011. Correct?


- Every dollar counts !

Physically there is no change. They've only changed how the 2011 pins are utilised by the chipset. They're calling it 2011-3 but because the pins have a totally new configuration it may eventually be called 2013. Only Haswell-E and newer CPU's can be used in the socket. I'm sure they will even change the orientation locking keys a little so that older CPU's can't be installed in the socket. I don't know if Xeon CPU's will travel the same road but there may be an optional version of them as well for the new pin layout.
 

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i don't know, this pricing leaves me cold; i find it hard to justify this expense since - in my opinion - the true value of these chips is their longevity; but intel prices them so high, you can afford to buy the best consumer-range product, and to have enough left to replace them when the next cycle comes along.

rather than "enthusiast", they should call this the "professional" line, as in "you need something which makes the chip pay for itself", like professional video editing.

The socket 2011 is their professional line. It's designed for professional high threaded program use. It supports Xeon CPU's. You can drop in any Xeon CPU in the 2011 socket. Most boards will also support ECC ram as well making it a complete professional option. If anything it is an enthusiast version of a professional system.... High end professional that allows full overclocking. Add an extra socket and you have a server system. Most Xeons are locked cores but newer Xeons can be overclocked. If this is strictly a gaming system for you the 1150 is faster on fewer cores and much cheaper. This socket is professional grade and can handle much higher loads and extreme high threaded programs. That's what you're paying for. Most people buy this socket type because they need both. They use demanding programs and they game as well. They buy non-Xeon for the overclockability. There are more Pcie lanes available for adding a large selection of Pcie cards that offer so many options the 1150 isn't designed to handle.
 
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