Yeah, I mean, all those other murdering people screaming "ALLLLL AHHHHHH" are talking about something else... What are you, brain dead?
But if he says Allah then we know it's because of the religion, right?
I'm personally waiting for the inevitable call to "Ban Cleavers" or some other equally retarded reference to gun control.
Yes? If I hear some guy shouting "Praise Jesus!" or "Hare Krishna" while hacking up someone, I'll be sure to let you know
What else would it be? Two schizos found each other, and cooperated to commit murder? I don't think so, and that only covers this specific case. What about the thousands of other cases last year?
Yep, it completely excuses the person committing the crime. He had no choice.
The uniform for what cause? The IRA isn't about instituting Catholicism in Ireland. It's about returning the whole country to Irish rule, and punishing past British abuses. That's the historic context anyway. They've fought the war so long they forgot the goal.
Yea, I'm gonna need a citation for this. I'll settle for the last 10 years, world wide. I want statistics for the top 10 religions, and if there's some outliers, feel free to add them. I'm not sure how important they'd be if it's an extreme minority though.I'm not even going to bother looking, but I can say without any doubt that there have been plenty of cases where some nut said God told them to do something as bad as this.
The issue is people aren't acting on "god's" word(for the most part). This is the entire issue. The supernatural can't be fought because the whole premise is incorrect. You can't reason with something that's intrinsically unreasonable. The tangible can be dealt with one way or the other.Wait, let me just get to the crux of the point here, if a nut says that God told him to do something horrific, it's because he's a nut and not because of any religion, but if Allah (another word for God) told him to do it, it's because of the religion? Are you really not seeing the enormous hole in your argument?
Congratulations, you managed to not get the point at all.Try telling that to kids who can't walk on a certain street because they're not the correct religion. On either side of the fence (Catholics vs. Protestants).
Yea, I'm gonna need a citation for this. I'll settle for the last 10 years, world wide. I want statistics for the top 10 religions, and if there's some outliers, feel free to add them. I'm not sure how important they'd be if it's an extreme minority though.
Of course. So why are you saying that there's a difference between someone saying that God told them to do something horrific and Allah told them the same?The issue is people aren't acting on "god's" word(for the most part). This is the entire issue. The supernatural can't be fought because the whole premise is incorrect. You can't reason with something that's intrinsically unreasonable. The tangible can be dealt with one way or the other.
Actually, it was you who missed the point. People use religion as an excuse to stir up shit. It doesn't imply that they strongly believe in a particular religion and are following its teachings honestly, it just points out how screwed up they are. It's as simple as that. No apologies from the Muslim community are required for something they didn't have any involvement in.Congratulations, you managed to not get the point at all.
I'll give you Bush. I'm not convinced it was really over religion, but in any case, he's dumb as a brick, and stupid people do stupid things. The second link is someone that's mentally ill, and not applicable.No. I know it's an utter waste of my time, but here's a twenty-second Google job ('god told me to do it'):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/god-told-me-to-do-it
Religion doesn't have a thing to do with it. Using your definition it's about fanatical allegiance to the colors green and orange. See how stupid that is?Actually, it was you who missed the point. People use religion as an excuse to stir up shit. It doesn't imply that they strongly believe in a particular religion and are following its teachings honestly, it just points out how screwed up they are. It's as simple as that. No apologies from the Muslim community are required for something they didn't have any involvement in.
I wonder how long it took for the cops to get guns.Looks like both of them were shot up by the cops?
I'll give you Bush. I'm not convinced it was really over religion, but in any case, he's dumb as a brick, and stupid people do stupid things. The second link is someone that's mentally ill, and not applicable.
I'm not saying it isn't stupidReligion doesn't have a thing to do with it. Using your definition it's about fanatical allegiance to the colors green and orange. See how stupid that is?
And you disagree that people who do horrendous things in the name of a religion are mentally ill?
OK, what is the relevance of your statement exactly? Did I say that anything excuses this guy's actions? No.
In some cases I'm sure they are, but that doesn't explain Islam. It's not an education issue either. There's tons of ignorant Catholics in central/south America, yet they aren't bombing anything. So what's the issue?
Heard it on NPR on my way to work. There are some crazy ass mofos out there. I heard they got shot down by the London police.
I think this issue is besides muslims, it's about unchecked massive immigration from places with an overly different culture.The obvious solution is for the UK to immigrate more Muslims.
But if he says Allah then we know it's because of the religion, right?
And there are tons of Christians/Muslims/Jews/Buddhists/etc. all over the world and they aren't bombing anything either. So what's the issue?
In some cases I'm sure they are, but that doesn't explain Islam. It's not an education issue either. There's tons of ignorant Catholics in central/south America, yet they aren't bombing anything. So what's the issue?
Sucking the mighty dick of political correctness doesn't do anyone any favors. You're willfully ignoring facts, and nothing is achieved through willful ignorance.
If you find say two hundred radical Christians who are willing to blow up stuff, does that somehow point the finger at Christianity?
But there hasn't been 200 radical Christians blowing things up. If there were, it would indeed point the finger towards Christianity.
Really? You'd hold Christianity to account for the crimes of a couple of hundred people? So by that rationale would it be fair to say that Christians endorse paedophilia?
I'd say the Catholic administration tolerates pedophilia, and tolerance is tacit endorsement.