Soldier Told Not to Read Levin, Limbaugh or Hannity in Uniform

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OverVolt

Lifer
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The guy is trying to make political points in uniform, meh, not a good idea. We don't know the full story though, these types of stories can go either way you would have to know the guy. Depending which news source, they could really swing this one way or another.
 

bshole

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The military's job is to kill people, not make political statements. The president is the Commander in Chief. It is shocking to me that this nutter could have that bumper sticker. If I put a bumper sticker on my car that was derisive of our CEO, I would be looking for a new job real real quick.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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They are attacking him for being a Christian and Conservative.

Here is an article showing the attacks on Christians.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/pentagon-grilled-about-christians-in-military.html

I asked for specifics on how they are attacking HIM for being a Christian since it sounds to me like they are attacking him for being intolerant not because they themselves are intolerant.

As far as your article, I didn't see many issues with it:

Commanders barred from disclosing any programs that are tied to the Chaplaincy or any programs involving religion;

Not sure whats up with that one but I disagree.
The Air Force banning the word ‘God’ from an Air force patch logo – even though the reference had no religious connotation;

If there is no religious connotation then how could it possibly be an attack on a specific religion? You gotta pick one or the other but regardless this one I agree with but I wouldn't be butthurt if it was the other way.

A Navy directive that banned Bibles at Walter Reed Hospital;

Thats BS if true but I have a feeling there is way more to the story.
An Army Reserve training program that listed Evangelical Christians and Catholics as examples of religious extremism;

Shrug, I agree with this one too.
An Army email that listed prominent Christian ministries like the Family Research Council and American Family Association as “domestic hate groups.”

Agree again.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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More like don't read anything Conservative or that takes a stand against Obama. If he was reading some liberal/progressive crap he would probably be alright.

"Take a stand against Obama"????

Do you realize who Obama is to that soldier? Obama is the Commander in Chief of the United States. Not only is Obama that soldiers boss he is that soldiers bosses bosses bosses bosses bosses bosses boss. Go "take a stand" against your boss and come back here and tell us all how it works out for you. Sounds like the guy was trying to stir shit and he succeeded and it still has absolutely nothing to do with him being Christian, foxnews just spun it that way to get ever more ignorant peoples panties in a wad. Obviously it was successful.
 

Darwin333

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You don't like Conservatives and Christians so obviously you're against this guy.

How does the saying go.....

We like your Christ but we don't like your Christians who are nothing like your Christ? Regardless, it fits very well here.

Rather ironic actually, Christians biggest point of contention these days is their hate for a certain group in society yet the very word Christian implies that their goal is to be more Christ like. You know, the very loving and accepting of everyone including sinners, that Christ?
 

HomerJS

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Do you think the army went too far in punishing him? Should he be able to read the books and do the other things? Should he have even been punished?

I believe soldiers can't read Playboy either so what's your beef? Not exactly a democracy.
 

justoh

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While they're kicking him out, please no more publicly funded military chaplains? Far more disgusting then this one individual.
 
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I believe soldiers can't read Playboy either so what's your beef? Not exactly a democracy.

Are you seriously comparing playboy to Conservatism. Typical of liberal garbage like you.

You would be crying racism if they said no books by obama.
 

bshole

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Are you seriously comparing playboy to Conservatism.

Playboy is WAY more appealing to me than Conservatism. I think it is an outrage that our soldiers are denied porn. Porn is as American as apple pie and baseball. We expect our soldiers to fight and die and yet we still deny them porn? Its outrageous.... diabolical even!
 

piasabird

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With freedom comes responsibility and consequences. Life is hard and then you die.

From the Bible: "Dont kick against the pricks".
 

justoh

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There are lots of Christians in the military. So why should they be kicked out?

The soldiers don't need chaplains to pray, and the non evangelical soldiers don't need to be coerced into mandatory prayer meetings (which apparently happens according to the wiki entry for military chaplain). Seems like a no brainer.
 
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The soldiers don't need chaplains to pray, and the non evangelical soldiers don't need to be coerced into mandatory prayer meetings (which apparently happens according to the wiki entry for military chaplain). Seems like a no brainer.

No, You don't like Christians so you support this.
 

Schmide

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No, You don't like Christians so you support this.

Please don't speak for others in such blatant terms. Most of us, if not all of us, like/are Christians. We just disagree with the public proselytizing and excessive views on secular people.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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No, You don't like Christians so you support this.

I don't like Christians and I don't support kicking out all the chaplains. Now what?

You have yet to provide any real proof, other than his hate for gays, what this soldiers religion has to do with his situation.
 

HumblePie

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Being prior military, no matter your views on politics, it is best to keep them to yourself. You can exercise free speech to a point, but an active military member is NOT bound by the same rules as civilians. They are subject to the UCMJ. That is the contract you sign when you put your name down at the MEPS.

No matter what you feel about the pres as a military member, you don't ever talk bad about your boss. The soldier sounds like an idiot for that.
 
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Please don't speak for others in such blatant terms. Most of us, if not all of us, like/are Christians. We just disagree with the public proselytizing and excessive views on secular people.

Then why are there so many attacks on Christians here?
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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For the most part his actions, per that article, would not be illegal under the UCMJ (though the bumper stickers are something of a gray area in that they are not just political speech but overtly critical of the President), but obviously we are getting a self-selected list of his behavior chosen by him and Fox News. Moreover, notably, he has not been charged with anything, nor given an Article 15.

I can only assume that all of this laundry list of his behavior (which also includes retweeting a tweet that said "Lordy, Lordy, it’s lovely human Tuesday. The lefty loons and Obamabots are out in full force") is indicative of his generally being an obnoxious loudmouth, which is normally not the way to win friends and influence people in the workplace.

so much this.
 

BurnItDwn

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Limbaugh and Hannity are not "conservatives." They are obviously satire. Sort of like Steven Colbert, but, they are not as good as he he. Colbert is much much funnier.
 

Schmide

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Then why are there so many attacks on Christians here?

Because you seem to think everything is about religion, even when it's not, and are first to call persecution when there are obviously mitigating circumstances.

What I'm saying is you're not very good seeing things with a rational perspective, you see what you want to see, you want to believe that people like Master Sgt. Nathan Sommers are pious scholars, when they're just hate mongers attempting to repress those different from themselves.
 
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