Soldier Told Not to Read Levin, Limbaugh or Hannity in Uniform

[Incorruptible]

A soldier in the US Army is facing retribution and punishment for his Conservative views.

A veteran member of the U.S. Army Band said he is facing retribution and punishment from the military for having anti-Obama bumper stickers on his car, reading books written by conservative authors like Mark Levin and David Limbaugh, and serving Chick-fil-A sandwiches at his promotion party.

“It seems like with the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell – that the Christians have been the ones who’ve had to go underground and in the closet – for fear of retaliation and reprisals,” Sommers told Fox News. “Christians feel like they can’t be forthright with their faith. They have to hide.”

Army documents showed that his behavior was disrespectful to Barrack Obama.


He was told not to read books by Conservatives. He was reading The Great Destroyer by David Limbaugh backstage at an army band concert when a superior told him he was offending others and causing unit disruption


He also served Chick-Fil-A at his promotion party during the time of the attack on them.

He was later summoned by a superior who himself was gay.

Sommers was reprimanded, threatened with judicial action and given a bad efficiency report. An investigation was also launched.

The Army went too far. He had different views but asking soldiers to be tolerant while being intolerant of him isn't right. Saying they should be respectful to gay soldiers but not to Christians and Conservatives is wrong.

Do you think the army went too far in punishing him? Should he be able to read the books and do the other things? Should he have even been punished?


Whole article is here
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...ead-levin-limbaugh-or-hannity-in-uniform.html

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

For the most part his actions, per that article, would not be illegal under the UCMJ (though the bumper stickers are something of a gray area in that they are not just political speech but overtly critical of the President), but obviously we are getting a self-selected list of his behavior chosen by him and Fox News. Moreover, notably, he has not been charged with anything, nor given an Article 15.

I can only assume that all of this laundry list of his behavior (which also includes retweeting a tweet that said "Lordy, Lordy, it’s lovely human Tuesday. The lefty loons and Obamabots are out in full force") is indicative of his generally being an obnoxious loudmouth, which is normally not the way to win friends and influence people in the workplace.

 

[shadow9d9]

"“It seems like with the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell – that the Christians have been the ones who’ve had to go underground and in the closet – for fear of retaliation and reprisals,” Sommers told Fox News. “Christians feel like they can’t be forthright with their faith. They have to hide.”"

Feigned outrages of christian oppression continue! POOR BABIES!!!

 

[CitizenKain]

another entry for shit_that_didnt_happen.txt

 

[EagleKeeper]

Guy got slapped for other legit reasons and was also "advised" on some questionable.

Probably reading the book where he was not supposed to.

I agree with DVC on the bumper stickers. They should not be there; but to trigger this story; something much bigger went on.

 

[nextJin]

OP is on ignore but in ANCOC, there was this Ron Paul supporter who did a "did you know" thing in the morning were you supposed to cite things of importance for military issues. He basically read off a bunch of shit that was critical of Obama and Republicans.

It was not taken kindly and afterwards I had to pull that young SSG to the side and set him straight. There are times and places to do things and I have a feeling is story is one of those times where you should probably keep your mouth shut.

It didn't even matter that most liked Paul, you don't voice your opinion in an official capacity.

 

[Bulk Beef]

The recipient of an Army Commendation Medal

WOW! What a hero!!

 

[Emos]

Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!

 

[HeXen]

Superjerk! We need you!

 

[Incorruptible]

"“It seems like with the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell – that the Christians have been the ones who’ve had to go underground and in the closet – for fear of retaliation and reprisals,” Sommers told Fox News. “Christians feel like they can’t be forthright with their faith. They have to hide.”"

Feigned outrages of christian oppression continue! POOR BABIES!!!

There have been other attaacks on Christians and attempts to remove Christianity. More leftists are trying to make the army more PC and leftist.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

WOW! What a hero!!

That is indeed a funny thing to be crowing about after 25 years in the service. I once got a commendation medal for a deployment lasting something like 70 days. If anything it's remarkable that he could manage to serve for 25 years and only get one commendation medal.

 

[nextJin]

Can I get a link to the original article? 25 years and an ARCOM is not really possible imo unless he was in the Guard or Reserve

 

[Nebor]

LOL @ the military punishing someone for being too conservative. I've been to plenty of bases where the TVs in the DFACs, clinics and elsewhere had signs mandating they be set to Fox News and never changed, by order of the base commander.

 

[Incorruptible]

LOL @ the military punishing someone for being too conservative. I've been to plenty of bases where the TVs in the DFACs, clinics and elsewhere had signs mandating they be set to Fox News and never changed, by order of the base commander.

The military has had lots of Conservatives/Libertarians but unfortunately it looks there is more political correctness in the military.

They are trying to attack people who are Conservative and Christian. It is happening slowly and will take time but it's likely that this will get much worse.

 

[davmat787]

To be fair, do we really want someone who reads Rush Limbaugh to be carrying a gun for a living?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Can I get a link to the original article? 25 years and an ARCOM is not really possible imo unless he was in the Guard or Reserve

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarne...ead-levin-limbaugh-or-hannity-in-uniform.html

 

[SheHateMe]

The military has had lots of Conservatives/Libertarians but unfortunately it looks there is more political correctness in the military.

I'm sure you don't know shit about the Military. Please stop pretending like you do.

 

[Nebor]

The military has had lots of Conservatives/Libertarians but unfortunately it looks there is more political correctness in the military.

They are trying to attack people who are Conservative and Christian. It is happening slowly and will take time but it's likely that this will get much worse.

I had a soldier (a SSG) that would read the bible on his ipad all day at his desk, and hold impromptu bible study sessions with other knuckleheads that would gather around his desk a couple times a day. I finally had to tell him that if he wanted to be a chaplain, he should go be a chaplain, but in the meantime he needed to be a Schools NCO in the S3 shop, and that work time was my time, not god's time.

I've also had reservations about serving under "holy roller" type battalion commanders who are always talking about the glory of heaven and all that crap. Why would I want a guy who thinks that death will bring wonderful rewards and happiness to be in charge of people's lives?

I've wound up on a tangent. My point is, the military is fairly politically correct, but religion still plays far too great a part (it's even worse in the Air Force.)

 

[Darwin333]

There have been other attaacks on Christians and attempts to remove Christianity. More leftists are trying to make the army more PC and leftist.

Score another one for the good guys!!!

The sooner people stop using fairy tales as an excuse to discriminate against people the better.

 

[Incorruptible]

Score another one for the good guys!!!

The sooner people stop using fairy tales as an excuse to discriminate against people the better.

Not sure if serious. You think attacking innocent Christians is good? These people have done nothing wrong and shouldn't be attacked like this.

 

[Darwin333]

Not sure if serious. You think attacking innocent Christians is good? These people have done nothing wrong and shouldn't be attacked like this.

They, and he, are attacking an entire group of people because of a fairy tale including his fellow servicemen, that's "something".

 

[Murloc]

I don't think reading books or using bumper stickers is illegal but I'm pretty sure his behaviour shows a clear pattern of provocative behaviour and being in-your-face about his beliefs.
He also didn't suffer serious consequences. Anyone in any other workplace would probably have been fired.

 

[Schmide]

Funny how all the conservative rags gloss over some of the transgressions.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/christianity/master-sgt-nathan-sommers-attacks-gays-obama-then-claims-christian

Including a reprimand for

Sommers was reprimanded, given a bad report and targeted by an investigation, which found he had tweeted in 2010: “Lordy, Lordy, it’s lovely human Tuesday. The lefty loons and Obamabots are out in full force."

Seems kind of in opposition to the United States Army Band's Mission Statement

The United States Army Band “Pershing’s Own” will provide musical support for the leadership of the United States, to include all branches of government, and to a wide spectrum of national and international events in support of Soldiers and their Families, public diplomacy, community and international relations, recruiting initiatives, and music education programs; in order to instill in our forces the will to fight and win, to foster the support of our citizens, and to promote our national interests at home and abroad.

 

[blankslate]

You're not supposed to engage in politics in uniform as per the rules in the UCMJ...

He wouldn't be allowed to appear at a democratic political rally during a campaign in uniform either... it goes both ways...

 

[Incorruptible]

I don't think reading books or using bumper stickers is illegal but I'm pretty sure his behaviour shows a clear pattern of provocative behaviour and being in-your-face about his beliefs.
He also didn't suffer serious consequences. Anyone in any other workplace would probably have been fired.

Was he really provocative? He was reading the books by himself and it's not like he was reading out loud.