Solution to Africa's hunger problem

SagaLore

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Dec 18, 2001
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And do not let them starve.

Instead, let's build them some agriculture.

What they need is one of those deep sea pipelines that pull very cold water with almost no effort. Run it right to Niger, and dump the water into a man-made resevoir. This saltwater lake can host several saltwater varieties of fish. The extra water will evaporate and help build moisture into the air and encourage more rain. Along the pipeline, the cold will sweat water out of the area and encourage plant growth - this area would be planted with different varieties of nitrogen-fixing beans.

When the people can produce their own food, the warlords will have less control of them, and will eventually fade away. New local governments could form to help support education and healthcare.
 

mwtgg

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Dec 6, 2001
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There have been some flourishing farms located on Africa. Too bad they've all been ruined one way or another...

Edit: The government will always have control of the people's land so long as you have the corrupt assholes in place.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
And do not let them starve.

Instead, let's build them some agriculture.

What they need is one of those deep sea pipelines that pull very cold water with almost no effort. Run it right to Niger, and dump the water into a man-made resevoir. This saltwater lake can host several saltwater varieties of fish. The extra water will evaporate and help build moisture into the air and encourage more rain. Along the pipeline, the cold will sweat water out of the area and encourage plant growth - this area would be planted with different varieties of nitrogen-fixing beans.

When the people can produce their own food, the warlords will have less control of them, and will eventually fade away. New local governments could form to help support education and healthcare.

This seems like a fantasy. Do you know how big of a hole you'd have to dig to make a resevior large enough to make a difference? Even large lakes like the Great Salt Lake don't make the desert green- it's still desert around it. You'd need to dig a hole much bigger than that.

 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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all the aid money should be used to setup mcdonalds. free mcdonalds with super size everything. once they are fat they can stfu.
 

Fenixgoon

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corrupt government >> *

until corrupt leaders are removed, africa will be hurtin'
 

OulOat

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So your plan is to turn Niger into one big dead salt bed (after the water has been evaporated) so they can't beg anymore...
 

sonz70

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
corrupt government >> *

until corrupt leaders are removed, africa will be hurtin'

until the corrupt leaders have invisible WMD, they will not be removed
 

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Lifer
Jul 2, 2001
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Didn't you hear? Doing anything that affects the environment is evil, even if it saves lives!

Also, they need meaningful political reforms first. If there is a governement that is stable, freely elected, and not a potential genocide danger.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
corrupt government >> *

until corrupt leaders are removed, africa will be hurtin'

Until their environment stabilizes, the corrupt leaders aren't going anywhere. Every time you take one out, another one replaces him.

We need to boycott diamonds and seriously go in there and setup some agriculture so the people have enough strength and will of living to defend themselves.
 

SupaDupaPan

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Sadly, giving them running water could ruin their social structure. This once happened with my old college writing teacher's friend (who came in to speak to us about other cultures). She was a part of the Peace Corps, and they were helping out a village in Africa, when they decided since teaching them how to be sanitary and such wasn't helping because water was such a scarce thing, they'd help by giving running water. And that in turn, would help them with their farmlands and with being sanitary. However, it ended up breaking up the village and slowly, people started to go to other villages. The reason being, going to fetch water, was their way of communicating with the others in their village... their way of "water cooler" talk. Without having to go out to the river, all they did was stay home or near their homes. No one bothered to find out about XX person or X person and see who was sick, who was pregnant, etc ... which eventally lead to the demise of the village.

So ... despite it *seeming* like it's a good idea ... it wasn't. If it was so easy ... it most likely, would have been done already.
 

lokiju

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
all the aid money should be used to setup mcdonalds. free mcdonalds with super size everything. once they are fat they can stfu.

:laugh:
 

Wag

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Jul 21, 2000
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The problem is distribution, not "agriculture". Irrigate the land you want, but if the corrupt governments keep hoarding foods for their military what difference will it make?
 

PingSpike

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The solution to Africa's hunger problem is to nuke them all. Nuked people can't starve.
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: SagaLore
And do not let them starve.

Instead, let's build them some agriculture.

What they need is one of those deep sea pipelines that pull very cold water with almost no effort. Run it right to Niger, and dump the water into a man-made resevoir. This saltwater lake can host several saltwater varieties of fish. The extra water will evaporate and help build moisture into the air and encourage more rain. Along the pipeline, the cold will sweat water out of the area and encourage plant growth - this area would be planted with different varieties of nitrogen-fixing beans.

When the people can produce their own food, the warlords will have less control of them, and will eventually fade away. New local governments could form to help support education and healthcare.

This seems like a fantasy. Do you know how big of a hole you'd have to dig to make a resevior large enough to make a difference? Even large lakes like the Great Salt Lake don't make the desert green- it's still desert around it. You'd need to dig a hole much bigger than that.

A great lake is not enough to create rain - you would need also some kind of good meteo environments or else the vaporised water won't transform to rain, or it would rain so much and so fast that would wash everything in sight
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Calin
A great lake is not enough to create rain - you would need also some kind of good meteo environments or else the vaporised water won't transform to rain, or it would rain so much and so fast that would wash everything in sight

I wasn't looking to changing the environment drastically - just add additional moisture to the air to increase the chances of saturation of existing fronts.
 

Toasthead

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
There have been some flourishing farms located on Africa. Too bad they've all been ruined one way or another...

Edit: The government will always have control of the people's land so long as you have the corrupt assholes in place.

yep
 

Kalbi

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1) Military invasion.
2) Secure oil fields.
3) Remove dictatorship governments.
4) Imperialize. Convert to Christianity. Insert "democratic" government.
5) No more starving Africans.
 
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