SOLVED: New HYPER 212 EVO arrived / Is much larger than suspected!!!

[Herkulese]

I received my Hyper 212 EVO today, and when I took it out of the box, I was completely flabbergasted at how truly huge it is. I have looked at a lot of pictures of this cooler on motherboards in cases, but never got the real sense of its size.

I set it on the CPU to see how it would fit in the case, and the tips of the heat pipes end up flush with the outside panel, so that they touch each other when the panel is in place. I can get the panel on fine, but the heat pipe tips do push it out, ever so slightly. I can't actually see the bulge, but I can feel it when I rub my hand over it.

I had planed to cover that section of the venting anyway, so I could use some thin, black pad material of some sort so that it would not vibrate. I guess I am wondering if that would be an OK thing to do, or if I should I just, bite the bullet, and send this cooler back, and try something a bit smaller?

I am thinking it is probably overkill and needs to go back.

If the recommendations are to return it and use another cooler, I would really like some replacement suggestions, that are known to be shorter than this one is.

Thanks again.

 

[ethebubbeth]

Having it touch the panel shouldn't really cause any problems. You'd just want to be careful moving the case. If you don't haul your case around a bunch and can't see the extrusion the ends of the heat pipes cause, I'd just keep it.

Now try comparing it to the size of NH-D14/NH-D15, Silver Arrow, or HR-02. Those are truly gargantuan.

 

[Herkulese]

Having it touch the panel shouldn't really cause any problems. You'd just want to be careful moving the case. If you don't haul your case around a bunch and can't see the extrusion the ends of the heat pipes cause, I'd just keep it.

Now try comparing it to the size of NH-D14/NH-D15, Silver Arrow, or HR-02. Those are truly gargantuan.

I don't move it around much. I just sits on my desk, and the side that bulges, even though it doesn't show, is to the wall side of the desk.

You bring up a good point, however, about moving the case, and that could move the heat sink around on the CPU, which probably wouldn't be good, so now looking for good heat sink suggestions that are a bit smaller than the Hyper 212 EVO, and priced similarly.
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In another thread, CoffeeJunkee suggested the Thermalright Macho HR-02, but I have read that it is enormous as well. Can anyone tell me if it is shorter than the 212 EVO? On the Amazon add it is listed as 5.5 x 6.4 x 4 inches, and if it is 6.4" tall it is too tall.

I am considering this one, as it should be considerably smaller, (92mm fans rather than 120mm), and seems to be very well liked. It comes with 2 Noctua fans, and is only $50 at Amazon, with free 2 day shipping.

Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608016

 

[nitromullet]

The Thermalright Macho HR-02 is massive. If the 212 EVO doesn't fit neither will the Macho.

 

[Herkulese]

The Thermalright Macho HR-02 is massive. If the 212 EVO doesn't fit neither will the Macho.

I went ahead and ordered the Noctua

Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608016

 

[4960X]

I thought the same thing when I had the Hyper 212+ but when I bought the NH-D14, I realized how small the Hyper 212+ actually is compared to the D14. The NH-D15 should be even bigger than the D14.

 

[Herkulese]

I thought the same thing when I had the Hyper 212+ but when I bought the NH-D14, I realized how small the Hyper 212+ actually is compared to the D14. The NH-D15 should be even bigger than the D14.

I would have use the EVO, but with it touching the case side panel, I was concerned about the fact that any time I would move the unit, there was a risk of disturbing the CPU.
I can't even imagine how large these other coolers you mentioned must be.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I would have use the EVO, but with it touching the case side panel, I was concerned about the fact that any time I would move the unit, there was a risk of disturbing the CPU.
I can't even imagine how large these other coolers you mentioned must be.

That's not going to happen unless you have crowds of people walking past your desktop tower case and bumping the side panel with gurr-eat force.

Couple days ago, the LA-Times featured front-page article on child-labor in Afghanistan. Some of these kids were working as apprentice in "metal shops," which pounded out copper pots and pans sold in the market.

I had a similar problem worse than yours: the heatpipe cooler for the graphics card just wouldn't fit. So I took the side-panel off, got my ball-peen hammer, and went to work on it with the care of the Afghan pan-makers. The side-panel bulge seemed . . . almost stylish.

 

[Mantrid-Drone]

Sorry, I have to ask this, but why weren't the dimensions of the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo and the recommended maximum case height checked before purchase?

I ran into a similar problem on my first build where I decided to replaced the top mounted 120mm fan with a 140mm one fitted with a screw on filter as it is almost opposite a grill in the side panel, drawing in air. The 120mm fan rested in a slight recess on top of the heatsink fins that I hadn't accounted for when adding the 140mm. This increased the height to 160mm giving me under 5mm clearance from the side panel. This is less than the case manufacturer recommends so I removed the fitted fan filter and did what I should have done instead: used a much thinner filter sheet over the grill instead.

So this size issue was something I was concerned about with my recent build too. The point is I knew from that first build that most cases and coolers dimensional tech specs are available from the makers web sites. The case I eventually bought was chosen over the other ones I was considering because I was certain it would allow me to fit the CPU cooler I wanted.

Example:-

http://www.corsair.com/en/carbide-series-200r-compact-atx-case

maximum cooler height = 165mm

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/

heatsink height = 159mm

Certain cooler dimensional incompatibilities discovered post purchase, particularly clearance over RAM modules with tall heatsinks etc are understandable. But otherwise I think a little research prior to buying would avoid most such problems.

 

[Herkulese]

Sorry, I have to ask this, but why weren't the dimensions of the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo and the recommended maximum case height checked before purchase?

Certain cooler dimensional incompatibilities discovered post purchase, particularly clearance over RAM modules with tall heatsinks etc are understandable. But otherwise I think a little research prior to buying would avoid most such problems.

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The problem was that I didn't take into account enough space for the mobo plate and space behind it. The interferance amount was so slight, and based on the height of the cooler, and the width of my case it very well could have fit, so I took a chance. I also could have still used it but, in the end, chose not to.

 

[PliotronX]

Hell, having the heatsink contact unpainted chassis might actually help matters as I recall a theory a while ago that grounding the HSF may reduce EMI/RFI for the CPU/bus. Never saw that go any further than a theory but as long as it fits...

 

[MongGrel]

I thought the same thing when I had the Hyper 212+ but when I bought the NH-D14, I realized how small the Hyper 212+ actually is compared to the D14. The NH-D15 should be even bigger than the D14.

They look nice the new 15, but all ready have a 14 in here and it just isn't warranted really.

I'd like too as I have mine mounted vertically and would easily fit, but doesn't seem worth going from a 14 to a 15 really.

Yeah compared to some the EVO is a good fit, but I'd think the smaller Noctua will work fine for the OP.

 

[Mantrid-Drone]

My point was that the information was there pre-purchase. We're not talking about the case width and not just the maximum internal height available either but the maximum height recommended for the CPU heatsink/fan(s). I'd think this is specified by case manufacturers for the very reason you've posted.

Surely the height of the CPU heatsink/fan must also include the protruding ends of the pipes? It would be a bit odd if it didn't.

Both figures take into account the MB mounting plate, risers etc.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Just one of the things you learn when you become a computer-obsessive enthusiast. Get a couple nice metal metric rulers. Learn the height of your mobo standoffs -- they're usually 1/4" or metric equivalent. Measure from the processor cap to the side-panel. THEN read the specs and look for the scale drawing of the prospective heatpipe cooler. Measure to within a millimeter. THEN pick the cooler.

I've made screw-ups of my own from time to time, and this is nothing to get depressed about. Frankly, the way the OP describes it, it still "fits."

 

[Herkulese]

Just one of the things you learn when you become a computer-obsessive enthusiast. Get a couple nice metal metric rulers. Learn the height of your mobo standoffs -- they're usually 1/4" or metric equivalent. Measure from the processor cap to the side-panel. THEN read the specs and look for the scale drawing of the prospective heatpipe cooler. Measure to within a millimeter. THEN pick the cooler.

I've made screw-ups of my own from time to time, and this is nothing to get depressed about. Frankly, the way the OP describes it, it still "fits."

It had been at least 8 years since I had built a new system, so I had to do a research project for a lot of the components, and that was one that seemed like a no brainer. I have enjoyed getting this system just how I want it though, even though I did have to do a couple of RMA’s, and order parts that I didn’t know I would need, which added weeks to the time to completion. In the end, I am very satisfied with the system so far.

With the base Windows Install, with no other programs to bring up to the desktop, It boots into Windows, including entering the password, to the desktop in just 30 seconds. I know that will get longer as I add more programs to the system.

Yes, the heat sink did still fit, but it pushed out on the side panel, not really even causing any issue with installing the panel, just a little of fudging here and there to get all edge clips in place.

I just wasn't comfortable having anything pushing or jostling the CPU Cooler like that, so I returned it in lieu of something a bit smaller, like the Noctua NH-U9B SE2

BTW, at stock safe default BIOS settings, the 92mm Noctual heat sink and fans keeps my CPU cores at 50c max under heavy Prime 95 torture testing. I have only checked it for 10 minutes, but I am happy with that, and will be seeing what I can to OC the system. Once I can image my Windows install so that I can reuse it if needed, I will do some more lengthy testing.

I will try 3.6GHz, then 3.8GHz, then if successful, I will try 4.0GHz. I will try to see what the highest stable speed is, and then most probably run one step under that.