Some 15 years later, how do you feel about Eminem?

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QueBert

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Jan 6, 2002
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He got where he's at not because he's white but because of his lyrics and how he puts them together. He had to be that much better than everyone else because he is white. It's not like you see only white people listening to his music, everyone does because he does it so well.

His whiteness is a big part of his success imho, in So Cal the alternative and rock stations both played him when he came out. These are stations that never touched rap before him and didn't play any after him. And it's not like his rap wasn't rap, it sounded like underground rap not some Limp Biskit mash up shit. His skill are insane, but on their own I doubt it would have been enough to propel him to the top like it has. There are non white rappers who people argue are as good, or at least close to Em, yet nobody outside of the underground knows about them.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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I've never liked Em. Often, I've been accused of not liking him because he's a white rapper.

Really, I don't like him because his debut song sucked. I wasn't into "the real slim shady", plus....I'm definitely not listening to a dude that raps evil shit about his mother.


I just don't think he's good. He isn't the "top 5" of anything....and its pretty obvious why he gets so much hype..he is really the only white rapper out there that can produce something half decent. So, I guess he gets brownie points for that...but no, I wouldn't put him up there with good rappers.

there is a difference between not liking him, and him not being good and talented at what he does. to say he's not a good rapper is just lying to yourself.
 

JM Aggie08

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Jan 3, 2006
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I've never liked Em. Often, I've been accused of not liking him because he's a white rapper.

Really, I don't like him because his debut song sucked. I wasn't into "the real slim shady", plus....I'm definitely not listening to a dude that raps evil shit about his mother.


I just don't think he's good. He isn't the "top 5" of anything....and its pretty obvious why he gets so much hype..he is really the only white rapper out there that can produce something half decent. So, I guess he gets brownie points for that...but no, I wouldn't put him up there with good rappers.

Macklemore would like to have a word with you.

**EDIT** Seriously what the hell are you talking about?
 
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Eminem is an incredible lyricist, although I think a lot of his work veered into being shocking for it's own sake. Infinite is one of the best hip hop tracks of all time. It's a pity it's so hard to find these days.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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I am not into rap music but there are a few songs that I like, not in any order.

1. Mockingbird
2. Lose Yourself
3. Toy Soldier
4. Love The Way You Lie
5. Not Afraid
 

DougK62

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Mar 28, 2001
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It's a bit annoying that color is always brought in to the equation when talking about white rappers. Two of the very best rap acts of all time are white (Beastie Boys and Eminem).
 

Dankk

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He's amazing with words. I'm not a fan of rap music whatsoever, but he's a really talented dude.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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he's no brianmahanhan

For some reason that segwayed into "Empire State of Mind" in my head...

brianmahanhan...in New York, these posts will make you feel brand new, the noobs will inspire you :whiste:
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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My thoughts on M&M?

#1 - Lose Yourself is great to workout to.

#2 - Briefcase Joe.
 

RPD

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kQBVneC30o

25 to Life is his newest song that I like. I've actually purchased every album of his but his first.

I'll add I think Relapse wasn't a great CD, probably his worst but still some funny songs on there. The only rappers who I support are him and Nas.
 
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Nemesis13

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Relapse was trash from beginning to end, other than that i enjoy most of his work.
 

SheHateMe

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Macklemore would like to have a word with you.

**EDIT** Seriously what the hell are you talking about?

I'm sure you can read.


I was not feeling Eminem's bad boy "fuck my mom and my baby's mother" rap. And besides, my mother didn't want me listening to that anyway. So, I didn't. Never got into him. Never got into his stupid bleached hair he was rocking back then. I hated his voice. I honestly thought he was a parody rapper.

When he got a little more fame, his rap changed a bit. I'm not going to lie and say he doesn't have any good records out there...but Top 5 rapper good? Hell no. Never.


And nobody was talking about Macklemore 15 years ago. Don't see how he applies here. Macklemore doesn't compare to Eminem at all..and I highly doubt he will get any play on HipHop stations like Eminem has.
 
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Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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When he got a little more fame, his rap changed a bit. I'm not going to lie and say he doesn't have any good records out there...but Top 5 rapper good? Hell no. Never.

Perhaps you can give us some perspective - what are your top 5 rappers, in any order?
 

rcpratt

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
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When he got a little more fame, his rap changed a bit. I'm not going to lie and say he doesn't have any good records out there...but Top 5 rapper good? Hell no. Never.
Maybe for you, but I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of rap lovers and haters alike would have him in their top 5.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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I think him making fun of Tom Green helped kill Green's career. For that, I applaud him.
 

SheHateMe

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Perhaps you can give us some perspective - what are your top 5 rappers, in any order?

  1. Big Daddy Kane
  2. Krs-One
  3. Biggie
  4. Tupac
  5. Rakim
  6. Nas

I gave you 6

And this is not in any particular order. These are just guys off the top of my head that I can say are MILES better than Slim Shady.


Here's two more:

MC Lyte
Queen Latifah
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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  1. Big Daddy Kane
  2. Krs-One
  3. Biggie
  4. Tupac
  5. Rakim
  6. Nas

I gave you 6

And this is not in any particular order. These are just guys off the top of my head that I can say are MILES better than Slim Shady.


Here's two more:

MC Lyte
Queen Latifah

I don't agree with your analysis of the situation at all, but I can't hate on your picks. At least you didn't say something ridiculous like lil wayne.
 
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