Currently, 128-bit instructions are carried out by using 32-bit / 64-bit FPU at a reduced efficiency [more cycles needed to process a single instruction]. According to our sources, GPR [General Purpose Registers] were increased to 128-bit. Once that we learned of this alleged GPR depth, we asked does that mean we can, theoretically, call Bulldozer a "128-bit CPU" and is "x86-128" on the way? I will openly admit that I asked such a question without giving it a second thought.
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Is this what AMD calls FMA lol. AMD already has 128bit. 64 64. This is old old BS.
AMD didn't know about AVX than. AVX game changer. YOu actually missed the good news .
AMD 32nm. Very soon . AS I said would happen . But IBM threw in another spanner. 28nm .
I believe Amd 32nm real soon . What IBM says noway . I remember Intel 45nm High K metal gates We have that to said IBM/AMD. Here intel is releasing 32nm Without 3D gates . You were right Idontcare. Yet NO IBM metal gates high K 2 years later. So IBM is a puss bag. AMD would do well to get away from that IP thief.
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
We need amd to come out and kick Intel in ass again. I don't think amd is setting on any tech . Were as Intel is holding back tech again. I thought they would learn. What intel is doing with Sandy threw to Haswell is wrong in my belief. I understand intel needs CT to be more widely developed for good results with Haswell . But Bring it with sandy. Force the developers give AMD some breathing room while forcing NV.
Don't ever forget the Big dog in this game isn't even playing. But there awake now. Big time. Just like Suns IP which is basicly being rendered useless with Cuda/CT/ Brook/ with everthing going parallel You need a good software IP in compilers and Intel right now has everbody by the balls. The funny thing is many have better tech. But Intel HAS the Finnal solution and I think many now see this. Intel is actually going to grow its hardware into its software.
What does this mean. It means Intels got some wicked good great spectacular compilers. Which means this. Intels Software is ahead of it hardware.
As intels compiler libarary grew its software abilities grew . In so far as traslation.
What this has done has made intel present CPUs more dodo like than you would believe. Because of Intels compilers are so good intel can now make simpler more efficient cpus. But the road to get from here to there is strange freaken road.
NV is finding that out. NV is jumping in with CUDA only Bold and daring. I do believe out classed also. Time well tell.
AMD I not real sure what to think . But They are in alot better position than most people believe. ATI tech is really good . But Brook is tuff. CL helps but AMD needs sonething like CT. To really leverage their IP. There 1 compiler away from turning this into a real White Fang type dog fight.
Originally posted by: Idontcare
Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Is this what AMD calls FMA lol. AMD already has 128bit. 64 64. This is old old BS.
AMD didn't know about AVX than. AVX game changer. YOu actually missed the good news .
AMD 32nm. Very soon . AS I said would happen . But IBM threw in another spanner. 28nm .
I believe Amd 32nm real soon . What IBM says noway . I remember Intel 45nm High K metal gates We have that to said IBM/AMD. Here intel is releasing 32nm Without 3D gates . You were right Idontcare. Yet NO IBM metal gates high K 2 years later. So IBM is a puss bag. AMD would do well to get away from that IP thief.
Nemesis you have an incredible memory, I wasn't about to say "told you so" as I figured it was long forgotten water under the bridge but thanks for giving me an honorable mention. Although I really get no credit as the logic/rational behind my statements at the time were born from facts I knew regarding 32nm but had no public sources to credit/link. Hardly a prognostication when one actually knows what the future is going to be.
"IBM is a puss bag" - you make me lol nearly every post, its enjoyable to read your posts (I drink a lot, so its bound to happen) I wish others took you in better stride cause you are a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma...or was that a nemesis, wrapped in a turtle, inside an enema? :shocked:
When it comes to IBM you can never overestimate what they are capable of doing, provided you restrict your expectations to them doing it with a single sram cell or FOM circuit. It makes for GREAT press releases and conference presentations. Not that their 65nm Power chips are slouches when it comes to GHz or TDP or IPC, but 45nm high-performance MPU tech is shipping when?
It's really sad for AMD that Intel is in the picture, if you removed Intel then folks would see that despite Intel's 1yr lead over AMD in process tech that AMD itself still leads the rest of the industry by a good 6 months or more. But in a 2-man race being second means you are dead last so it has hardly mattered until now. Hopefully GlobalFoundries changes this in dramatic fashion.
Originally posted by: ajaidevsingh
What AMD really need to do is to position 6 core Phenom against 4 core i7's "After all PhII's are smaller than i7's".