Some ATI 38x0 3DMark benchmarks

[thilanliyan]

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202510

There's a bunch strewn throughout the pages.

 

[swtethan]

Doesnt look too good for the 3800 series performance wise

 

[Quiksilver]

Well, if those benchmarks remain true until launch it doesn't look good. However, those with a limited budget would probably opt for one of these cards instead of the 8600GTS (or the sort) because that extra $50 for 8800GT might be too much.

 

[ronnn]

Looks like the 8800ultra is still king of the hill. Anything else will come down to fps, features, price and so forth. Hope ati has actually improved xfire, as at those prices might be fun.

 

[Rusin]

Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
Well, if those benchmarks remain true until launch it doesn't look good. However, those with a limited budget would probably opt for one of these cards instead of the 8600GTS (or the sort) because that extra $50 for 8800GT might be too much.

Extra $50 for 8800 GT? Well there have been few prices from USA and difference have been only few dollars in HD3870's favor. In Europe prices tells us that HD3870 is like 20? more expensive (this is almoust $30)

 

[n7]

Apparently run cool & overclocks like mad

Nothing but 3DMock benches there though, which mean absolutely nothing.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
Well, if those benchmarks remain true until launch it doesn't look good. However, those with a limited budget would probably opt for one of these cards instead of the 8600GTS (or the sort) because that extra $50 for 8800GT might be too much.

I think with a card like 3850 and 512vram can play any game out comfortably for the next generations of games with a 22" monitor or lower. It might not play crysis very well but no card plays that game with very high detail.

Adding 10 fps into the mix isn't going to do anything in your gameplay really. I think whoever makes the cheaper card that can play with all effects win in this situation.

 

[bryanW1995]

I just don't like the 3850's 256mb ram.

 

[AzN]

Yeah COD4 studders because I have 256vram even though I never go below 30fps.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I just don't like the 3850's 256mb ram.

There's supposed to be 512mb versions as well.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I just don't like the 3850's 256mb ram.

There's supposed to be 512mb versions as well.

We need a 2 GB version

256 MB is certainly too low though, yeah.

 

[AzN]

I think 640meg is plenty for any game currently. 512meg is cutting it if you add AA but it's doable. 1 gig should be on card developers minds now.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: Rusin

Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
Well, if those benchmarks remain true until launch it doesn't look good. However, those with a limited budget would probably opt for one of these cards instead of the 8600GTS (or the sort) because that extra $50 for 8800GT might be too much.

Extra $50 for 8800 GT? Well there have been few prices from USA and difference have been only few dollars in HD3870's favor. In Europe prices tells us that HD3870 is like 20? more expensive (this is almoust $30)

That was just my approximate guess after price gouging on both cards would end. Not the actual sell price.

 

[ronnn]

Lets see when ati releases their card and both have some type of availability. The market will quickly decide. Right now the 8800gt is almost unavailable in Canada and of the course the 3870 is totally unavailable.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: n7
Apparently run cool & overclocks like mad

Nothing but 3DMock benches there though, which mean absolutely nothing.

Very true... But sadly for ATI, the 2900XT scores relatively higher in 3DMark06 at default settings than it does in actual game benchmarks.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...sc-edition-review.html

Maybe this won't be the case with the HD3970. We'll have to see.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: n7
Apparently run cool & overclocks like mad

Nothing but 3DMock benches there though, which mean absolutely nothing.

Very true... But sadly for ATI, the 2900XT scores relatively higher in 3DMark06 at default settings than it does in actual game benchmarks.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...sc-edition-review.html

Maybe this won't be the case with the HD3970. We'll have to see.

I have no doubt this card will crash & burn with AA, just like the 2900 XT.
IOW, the only saving grace it'll have will be that it's significantly cheaper than the 8800 GT (hopefully AMD is smart enough to price it well).

I also expect it [HD 3870] to lose to the 2900 XT at very high resolutions/settings.

I already saw benches of the 3870 somewhere...just have to find where.
It didn't impress me.

Here we go: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202465

 

[jskagg]

We can always hope!

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: jskagg
We can always hope!

Oh believe me, i do.

But lately AMD has been completely talk, no action, & sadly, it appears that won't be changing anytime soon.
(I am referring to the high end.)

The HD 3850/3870 will likely be great midrange products, likely the same with Phenom.

But i don't see them winning at the top for a quite a while.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: n7
I already saw benches of the 3870 somewhere...just have to find where.
It didn't impress me.

Here we go: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202465

Most of those benches are for the 3850, and the one comparing the 3870 to the 2900 (the last graph) show the 3870 BEATING the 2900 albeit by slight margins (except in UE3 where the 3870 wins by almost 10fps). And according to the graph that's at 1920x1200. However, it still probably loses to the GT so will have to be priced fairly well.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: n7
I already saw benches of the 3870 somewhere...just have to find where.
It didn't impress me.

Here we go: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202465

Most of those benches are for the 3850, and the one comparing the 3870 to the 2900 (the last graph) show the 3870 BEATING the 2900 albeit by slight margins (except in UE3 where the 3870 wins by almost 10fps). And according to the graph that's at 1920x1200. However, it still probably loses to the GT so will have to be priced fairly well.

But w/o AA more than likely.

And bandwidth crippled the HD 3800s are, just like the 8800 GT is.

Wait & see.

BTW, high resolutions to me is what my monitor does: 2560x1600.
I'd bet on most newer intensive games w/ AA @ that kinda resolution being better w/ the 2900 XT.

To me, the 8800 GT & HD 3870 are stopgap solutions with poor futures.
Yes, they're priced well compably, but they're weaker architechturally, which means poorer performance down the road.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: n7
BTW, high resolutions to me is what my monitor does: 2560x1600.

Lol, MY high resolution is 1920 2560 is an UBER resolution until 30inch panels get to today's 22" prices.

I completely agree with your post though. I wonder how AA performance will be with the reduced memory bus...hopefully there will be some more leaks this week.

 

[brencat]

Dunno....TBH from reading that thread it didn't appear the 3870 did all that bad. Low temps and seems to OC okay too. Still too early so I'm going to stay positive.

 

[jskagg]

Check out this, 2fps slower than the gt in crysis:

http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3870/38701.htm

One thing to note is the reviewers comment of superior image quality by the hd3870 over the 8800gt.

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: jskagg
Check out this, 2fps slower than the gt in crysis:

http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3870/38701.htm

One thing to note is the reviewers comment of superior image quality by the hd3870 over the 8800gt.

If that is legitimate, then I'm pretty happy. The HD 3870 actually does BETTER in comparison to the 8800GT with AA in those 3D Mark 06 benches, and that's a very good sign if true.

If performance looks like that, and the price is right, I'll definately be buying an HD 3870.

 

[konakona]

wow that sure sounds promising. lets hope they have another x19xx up their sleeves for AMD's sake. but if thats the case, it would be another great performing powerhog with a shitload of heat and noise