some chick is going around shooting endangered animals

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Red Squirrel

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Maybe she's just trying to get experience so she can apply to be CEO of Godaddy. :biggrin:

I hope she gets trampled by an elephant or something. Preferably a slow death.
 

sandorski

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She's a cutie, but I wish she had a better hobby. At one time in History, killing such an animal would have been a great feat, where someone within the hunting party was going to die. So risky that the only reason to pursue such a thing was due to extreme desperation or the creature was threatening a village. These days it's more akin to shooting fish in a barrel.

Add in the danger these animals have of going extinct and you have an action of great Immorality. All for the sake of stroking one's ego.
 

bradley

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The Daily Mail article is actually troll bait or tabloid journalism for those with poor attention spans, all pictures and very few facts.

However I found some of the quotes in this article interesting.

Cleburne hunter responds to Facebook reactions
http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/...-hunter-responds-to-Facebook-reactions?zc_p=3

“There are many parts of Zimbabwe where there in an abundant population of leopard that wreak havoc on the livestock of the farmers in the village,” Jones said. “Instead of the villagers killing the leopards to prevent livestock damage, permits are sold to hunters to do this for them.”

Much of that permit money goes back to the villages to fund water wells, schools and other community needs, Jones said. “These people live in mud huts and have no electricity,” Jones said. “The money derived from hunting is badly needed to help provide the bare necessities such as water and shelter.”

The same is true of elephants, Jones said, who often destroy village crops. Meat from a single elephant provides protein for more than 100 families as well, Jones said.

“People showed up in mass numbers to actually help butcher the elephant,” Jones said. “These people eat a dish every day called sudza, which is a cornmeal or maize dish, so any extra source of meat and protein is greatly needed and appreciated.

“The professional hunters in these areas also provide jobs for many of these people as trackers, skinners, game scouts and lodge help.

“On day 16 I took a nice bull elephant that actually had a hole in his trunk from a wire snare that was set out by poachers. I’m sure this elephant had been suffering for years. Poaching is a huge problem for the elephant due to illegal ivory trade. Since the village receive both money and meat they look out for poachers and help the professional hunters.”

Jones addressed the reasons lions are hunted, which she called beneficial and necessary.

“It all leads back to conservation efforts and wildlife management,” Jones said. “Lions run in family groups called prides, which is a single dominant male with several females. Hunting keeps the male to female ratio in check. If you have too many males in an area they are always fighting for dominance, killing each other and a male will other male lion’s cubs.”

Without the revenue from hunting permits, Jones said, local farmers would likely kill off all the lions in the area.

“Contrary to what many believe,” Jones said, “lion populations on private game farms in South Africa are on the rise due to these conservation and hunting practices.”

Jones, on her Facebook page, several times explains that the rhino she is pictured with is not dead. She tranquilized it with a dart so a veterinarian could treat it.

“I darted a huge male white rhino that had a leg injury, most likely from lions,” Jones said. “It’s hard to explain how exciting it is to be next to such a huge animal with a vet and team of helpers performing these procedures. The vet cleaned out the wound really good and administered an antibiotic ointment for the leg injury and antibiotic shots. He also took blood samples and DNA samples to go into a DNA database, which helps combat illegal poaching.”
 

highland145

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The Daily Mail article is actually troll bait or tabloid journalism for those with poor attention spans, all pictures and very few facts.

However I found some of the quotes in this article interesting.

Cleburne hunter responds to Facebook reactions
http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/...-hunter-responds-to-Facebook-reactions?zc_p=3

Oh no, FACTS!

To the people asking "Who eats elephant, rhino, lion ,etc", uhh the natives? What the hell do you think they've been eating for centuries? Cabbage? Nothing wrong with what she is doing. She is hunting legally via conservation tags, private ranches, or readily available tags and promoting herself to get a TV show (a personal business venture) to support her hobby and herself. She's living the American dream.

Thousand upon thousands of management hunts take place in the USA every year as well. Tags are auctioned off, drawn, or simply given to individuals. Land owners with crops in areas with large ungulate herds are given tags to shoot a few animals to reduce numbers and discourage other animals from using the area. The meat does not go to waste.

The ignorance of urban America is astounding.
 

DrPizza

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Ahhh, I get it...

Then what we need to do is pay her and many like her to kill many more of them pesky elephants and lions as that way THEY (natives) wont need to kill them and the endangered wildlife will be preserved.

This is sort of like destroying the village in order to save it.

This logic can work elsewhere as well, hmm, how about we let our politicians in Washington just spend money like it's going out of style so that there's nothing left for them to spend -- this way we stop them from spending!


What this twit did is disgusting and anyone that supports her is also a twit!


Brian
Perhaps I can try to explain it again. It may have gone over your head. I have a farm. If any coyotes come near it, I'll shoot them. If they get past the dogs and kill a goat, then perhaps I'll poison the goat & leave its carcass to kill the rest of the pack of coyotes. BUT, if there's money... and then it gives me a bit of an incentive to manage the coyotes, rather than exterminate them, that opens up alternatives.

You seem to think it's a dichotomy; it's not. In fact, due to the hunting of male lions, the population of lions is going up in those areas.
 
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Lifted

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The Daily Mail article is actually troll bait or tabloid journalism for those with poor attention spans, all pictures and very few facts.

However I found some of the quotes in this article interesting.

Cleburne hunter responds to Facebook reactions
http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/...-hunter-responds-to-Facebook-reactions?zc_p=3

You left out this quote

When asked if she will send the hunting money directly to villagers when there are no more great animals to hunt, Jones responded "I would like, totally love to help these poor villagers, with all the flies on their faces, to build wells and have food to eat 'n stuff, but like, that's not as fun as hunting. There just wouldn't be anything in it for me I guess."
 

JulesMaximus

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MongGrel

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Well at least she's not illegally hunting crap out of a helicopter or something like some people I guess.

*cough* Palin *cough*

Why is this really news ?
 

MongGrel

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Used to be a bounty on Coyotes up north I believe, probably still is in some areas, wasn't going to read the whole thing.
 

Phoenix86

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You left out this quote

When asked if she will send the hunting money directly to villagers when there are no more great animals to hunt, Jones responded "I would like, totally love to help these poor villagers, with all the flies on their faces, to build wells and have food to eat 'n stuff, but like, that's not as fun as hunting. There just wouldn't be anything in it for me I guess."
Uhh, what?
 

-slash-

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Used to be a bounty on Coyotes up north I believe, probably still is in some areas, wasn't going to read the whole thing.

Some areas in Canada are $20/pelt. Local ranchers here in WA pay $10-25/pelt if they have an issue.
 

DrPizza

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Brian Stirling said:
DrPizza said:
In fact, due to the hunting of male lions, the population of lions is going up in those areas.
That doesn't make any sense. You are stupid, DrPizza, because if you kill an animal, the population goes down by one.

(Not a real quote, but it's the type of ignorant response from you that I expect.) Lions don't sit around the living room, ordering out for pizza, playing Xbox games all day long, and never getting laid. While that may be true for some of the posters here, I don't think any of the posters are lions. A pride of lions generally has one male and a lot of females. The male lions kill each other off or drive each other off in competition for the females. Further, if a new male lion takes over, he will kill all of the baby lions. Why? Because a nursing female lion does not come into heat - (doesn't get horny, in case I have to explain that to you as well) as long as she has the little ones to feed. BUT, if you kill those babies off, she'll come into heat again & you get to get laid a few dozen times. Further, there's an evolutionary advantage to this - the offspring of the strongest male lions are what survive.
 

Thebobo

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Perhaps I can try to explain it again. It may have gone over your head. I have a farm. If any coyotes come near it, I'll shoot them. If they get past the dogs and kill a goat, then perhaps I'll poison the goat & leave its carcass to kill the rest of the pack of coyotes. BUT, if there's money... and then it gives me a bit of an incentive to manage the coyotes, rather than exterminate them, that opens up alternatives.

You seem to think it's a dichotomy; it's not. In fact, due to the hunting of male lions, the population of lions is going up in those areas.

The problem with poisoning is it can effect other animals in the food chain like vultures and lots of other birds and even eagles scavenge. I doubt you want to do that. Also its against the law.
 

highland145

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(Not a real quote, but it's the type of ignorant response from you that I expect.) Lions don't sit around the living room, ordering out for pizza, playing Xbox games all day long, and never getting laid. While that may be true for some of the posters here, I don't think any of the posters are lions. A pride of lions generally has one male and a lot of females. The male lions kill each other off or drive each other off in competition for the females. Further, if a new male lion takes over, he will kill all of the baby lions. Why? Because a nursing female lion does not come into heat - (doesn't get horny, in case I have to explain that to you as well) as long as she has the little ones to feed. BUT, if you kill those babies off, she'll come into heat again & you get to get laid a few dozen times. Further, there's an evolutionary advantage to this - the offspring of the strongest male lions are what survive.
Carpel tunnel is going to be your reward. Easier to bash him in the head with a hammer, protecting the rest of us from his get.

Just sayin'.
 

Slew Foot

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Why are they eating elephants? they should go their local Whole foods and get some organic quinoa. /derp
 

SlickSnake

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I'm not sure if you're trolling, just being a general asshole, are making yourself look like an idiot. As I posted before, I know a lot of kids who have gone on trips like these to Africa, New Zealand, and elsewhere to take part in big game hunts. Many of those kids are far from wealthy. And, the places they travel to are, *gasp* , fairly nice to visit.

You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Jedi weapon. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.

It is unavoidable. It is your destiny. You, like your father, are now mine.

Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed!

 

bradley

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Teenage hunter under fire for posing with dead animals on Facebook
http://www.today.com/news/teenage-hunter-under-fire-posing-dead-animals-facebook-1D79876418


In a statement obtained by TODAY, Jones' family defended the photos and the actions of Kendall and her father Cody.

"First and foremost, it’s imperative to make mention that all of Kendall's hunts in Zimbabwe and South Africa were 100% legal with proper tags and licenses awarded on a pre-approved quota by the countries officials and wildlife department," the family said in the statement.

"Secondly, the tags, licenses, and fees purchased in addition to the services provided by local trackers, skinners, and assistants totaled over $160,000 USD, not including travel and/or production costs. In Zimbabwe, where over 70% of the country's population is classified as poor or extremely poor, this money, along with the $200 million hunters provide annually to the overall African economy, can provide a great deal of stimulus for the local economies. In the most rural areas, most people are unemployed and depend on bartering as a way of living and their economy welcomes hunters. We're very proud of Kendall and Cody in not only helping to conserve these species for future generations, but also for helping contribute both money and jobs to an extremely poor area of Africa."
 

Ichinisan

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Maddox weighed-in on Facebook:
Greatest Living Human said:
Licenses to hunt exotic animals in Africa can cost upwards of $350,000. Much of the proceeds go back into the local community to incentivize land-owners to raise and protect the next generation of brood, which paradoxically increases the wildlife population. Know what doesn't help increase wildlife populations in Africa? Bitching about it on Facebook. I don't see anyone else offering to pony $350,000 to save an animal's life. Your petition signatures are worth nothing. Until Lions learn how to breed with your righteous indignation and e-petitions, you're wasting your energy. Harsh truth time: conservation costs money, and if you're not willing to pay, you're not saving anything.
 
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