Some "love" for Intel, the new budget king? (G4560 madness!!)

[VirtualLarry]

Any updates, @.vodka or @escrow4 ?

I'm still debating on ordering a $100 GTX 1050 Asus dual-fan OC model off of ebay, for some of my G4560 gaming rigs. Or maybe my Core2Quad rigs. Or maybe my G3258 rigs. (Boy, did those fizzle out in gaming. I have reservations, as did escrow4, about the G4560. It's great for games TODAY, but in two years? Might fare as well as trying to play Witcher 3 or GTA V on a G3258. Interestingly, I've seen YouTube videos with benchmarks, claiming that the G4560 is faster (for games) than a G3258 @ 4.4 or 4.7 or something fairly high.)

(It should be noted that the G4560 is less than ideal for BF1, and Watch_Dogs2, already, due to those games really wanting 8 threads, rather than 4. And now that RyZen 7 is out, and 8C/16T CPUs are "affordable", I expect that games will only go further in the direction of wanting more threads.)

OTOH, heck, it's only $64. And it plays MOST games pretty darn well, TODAY.

 

[SPBHM]

if you are playing games the 1050 is a good card for that amount and a massive upgrade over any IGP,
not sure how it's going to last, but, with the consoles being limited to slow CPUs I don't think things will change all that much?
for something like BF1, I think it's possible to reduce some settings that are more CPU bound, I think there is a terrain detail setting that greatly affects CPU performance? or maybe something else.

the g3258 was already limited for some games when new, because some games are simply bad with 2 threads.

 

[cbn]

It should be noted that the G4560 is less than ideal for BF1, and Watch_Dogs2, already, due to those games really wanting 8 threads, rather than 4.

G4560 should work fine on BF1. (I played the beta (64 player) on my Athlon x 4 860K and GTX 660 and it played without a hitch. I was getting over 60 FPS on the map (used for the beta) too.)

One issue might be stuttering with too large of a GPU though. AtenRA did report stuttering with his Core i3 6300 and HD7950@ 1000 Mhz during his BF4 testing:

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/60-minutes-–-cpu-performance-and-energy-consumption-in-gaming-atenra.2459963/#post-37949265

 

[cbn]

I'm still debating on ordering a $100 GTX 1050 Asus dual-fan OC model off of ebay, for some of my G4560 gaming rigs. Or maybe my Core2Quad rigs. Or maybe my G3258 rigs. (Boy, did those fizzle out in gaming.

Core 2 quad is really slow in games these days. For example, in BF4 64 player my E5440 (Xeon version of Q9550) was running mid 30's FPS. Crysis 3 Welcome to the Jungle level was my worst experience as I was galloping at under 20 FPS in much of that level.

However, for someone that wants to upgrade a C2Q in steps a GTX 1050 would be fine because a CPU/mobo (or system) upgrade would come after that. But as far the intial match worthiness I can't imagine a GTX 1050 getting full utilization from a Core 2 quad. In fact, the utilization might be quite low in some cases.

 

[cbn]

. I have reservations, as did escrow4, about the G4560. It's great for games TODAY, but in two years?

In 2019.....upgrade to a used Core i5 6400? used Core i5 6500?

A Refurbished LGA 2011 Workstation? (they should be even cheaper by that time).

 

[cbn]

Virtual Larry,

Have you ever thought about buying one of these? And then swapping out the Core i5 7400 for a G4560?

If it is like the Skylake version It will have a 300W PSU, so you could use up to a GTX 1050 Ti.

EDIT: It does come with a 300W PSU. (It is listed in the specs)

 

[cbn]

Regarding the Warranty on the Acer (linked in the previous post), according to the following it is transferable if the computer is sold to someone else:

https://us.answers.acer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/224/~/are-warranties-transferable-if-a-computer-is-sold-to-another-individual?

Keep in mind though these Acer Desktops only have a 1 year warranty (compared to a 3 year warranty on most DIY motherboards).

However, based on what you wrote in the opening post, If I was a system builder I would consider the Acer as a starting point. This due to the low cost with no rebates or build time involved.

 

[rbk123]

FYI, Superbiiz has the 4560 for $54.99 and if you use coupon code SPRINGBREAK it knocks it down to $49.99. Shipping for me was almost $5 so it was a wash but I have one coming my way for $54.78.

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=G4560BOX&c=CJ

Now I just need to find another of those $25 motherboard deals.

 

[Boris Morozov]

Wow, first time I'm actually considering an intel chip!

 

[DrMrLordX]

Why not? It's an excellent value at that price. Throw in an old GPU and it will easily humiliate my plucky little Kaveri chips that I used to run, even when overclocked. At about half the price.

 

[cbn]

Since these G4560 are not overclocked another usage could be for a server. (eg, FreeNAS, Rockstor, Open Media Vault, UnRAID, NAS4free etc)

 

[waltchan]

In 2019.....upgrade to a used Core i5 6400? used Core i5 6500?

In 2019, some of new Core i5-2400 will be built for POS systems in limited numbers, and then I can buy one for $20 if someone unloads it.

 

[DrMrLordX]

In 2019, some of new Core i5-2400 will be built for POS systems in limited numbers, and then I can buy one for $20 if someone unloads it.

Wrong thread.

 

[daveybrat]

Antonline via Ebay has them for $59.99 w/fs right now. Great for those who don't have to pay tax or have some Ebay bucks to burn.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-BX806...rs-/302272904960?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

 

[rbk123]

Picked up an MSI B150 for $39.99 after rebate from the Egg -
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130894

Nice little budget build -
$39.99 MB
$54 - 8GB ram
$54 - G4560
$40 - 128GB SSD

I had the rest of the parts lying around and fired it up. Pretty snappy little machine; we'll see how it games.

 

[UglyDuckling]

Sorry but x58 Westmere-EP and Z77 with Sandy still pack a massive punch for pennies.

My XEON was 15 pounds shipped.. x58 board 90 shipped and i'm at an easy overclock of 4.2ghz smashing CPU's the Pentium has no chance of coming near to.

Not forgetting those beautiful extra threads, it's like a 2500K on steroids, not quite a 2600K, a bit behind in single thread but takes the cake when a game needs more threads or you video edit.

2500K 4.5ghz.

Westmere-EP Xeon 4.4ghz HT enabled (no Cinebench)

Cinebench with Westmere-EP at 1.3v 4.2ghz

Cores and threads makes a much bigger difference now than they did a couple or so years back.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Supply cruch of these seems to be easing up slightly. They are now available on ebay, for $61.99, and for $69.99 from Newegg.

Also, the RX 550 video cards are out, around $80, and the RX 560 4GB cards will be out soon, those are 1024-SP "full" Polaris 11 chips. (RX 460 had one compute unit disabled.) Hopefully, they will only be $100 MSRP, and with the extra compute unit, be faster than the GTX 1050, which only comes in 2GB varieties.

 

[Shivansps]

There is a chance that Celeron and Pentiums get upgraded to 4C in CFL, lets hope Intel do not cheap this one out by doing a rebrand.

In 2019, some of new Core i5-2400 will be built for POS systems in limited numbers, and then I can buy one for $20 if someone unloads it.

Sorry, no embedded KB Celeron or Pentiums for you, you may find new I3-7101E/TE in 2025, maybe.