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HeXen

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i like it how thread circles into religion. Rudeguy, you are a virtual God, you turned a nothing into a thread of something that grew into a religion...just like bible folks say in real life. epic win
 

Nik

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The problem with Agnosticism (of which I used to be a member) is that just because something can't be completely disproven doesn't mean it might exist, harry potters existence can't be completely disproven, but he is fictional... You shouldn't therefore stay on the fence as to whether harry potter exists...

Back in the 1700s, man couldn't fathom the concept of an atom. Then, along comes some yahoo who theorizes the existence of an atom but cannot prove it. Does that mean he's wrong?

Just playing devil's advocate, here. Malak likes to argue these threads until he's blue in the face --or until someone asks him a pointed, direct question that he cannot answer. Then he just slinks away and disappears, only to reappear in the next religious thread. What a freakin troll.

He still refuses to answer my question from last year.
 

Murloc

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Jun 24, 2008
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Why don't people who dislike religion, stay out of religious threads?
if you discuss about specialized theological stuff you bet they will.
But if religious threads are about christian bashing and islam and stuff like that, there's no way this happens.
Try to open a topic about a passage of the bible you want to discuss, and block the trolls.
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
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if you discuss about specialized theological stuff you bet they will.
But if religious threads are about christian bashing and islam and stuff like that, there's no way this happens.
Try to open a topic about a passage of the bible you want to discuss, and block the trolls.

There's nothing wrong with Bible study. In fact, as the most influential book in human history, everyone should be familiar with it.

However, the mysticism involved is what gets most people riled up.
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Back in the 1700s, man couldn't fathom the concept of an atom. Then, along comes some yahoo who theorizes the existence of an atom but cannot prove it. Does that mean he's wrong?

Just playing devil's advocate, here. Malak likes to argue these threads until he's blue in the face --or until someone asks him a pointed, direct question that he cannot answer. Then he just slinks away and disappears, only to reappear in the next religious thread. What a freakin troll.

He still refuses to answer my question from last year.

I asked a question too. You answer and I will.

My only argument has always been that Christ is love. Anyone can call themselves a Christian, but that doesn't make it true. I just want love.
 

Nik

Lifer
Jun 5, 2006
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Ask the question publicly and I'll answer it. I refused to answer yours because you were playing stupid games and refused to answer mine so I gave you a dose of your own medicine
 

busydude

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But again you are talking about fakes. People that claim to be something without actually acting like it. I hate it just as much as you. I also know not all missionaries in India are like that, because I happen to know one that is Indian-born and spends half the year there. He's a fantastic gentleman who has a real heart for helping people.

We agree on the dislike of corrupt religion. I shouldn't be thrown in with the lump just because so many fail at comprehending the purpose of Christianity. I shouldn't be discriminated against just because so many churches fail to understand the point to a church. The ignorance goes both ways, they are ignorant of what Christianity should be, and so is everyone that says they are representing Christianity. They are representing the blind.

Its good to hear that you enjoy your work.. and I truly appreciate it. Considering my own experience, what you are saying is the exception rather than the norm. Corrupt religion is everywhere, most of the donations that religious institutions receive is black money.. cos there is no accountability.

My cousin has had first hand experience of witnessing corruption in one of the major Hindu temple in the US.. and almost all the board members have high paying jobs... they are extremely good at exploiting loop holes for personal gains. It really breaks my heart that many people trust these low life scums.. and I hope that organized religion loses its importance/ influence during my generation.
 

Malak

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Its good to hear that you enjoy your work.. and I truly appreciate it. Considering my own experience, what you are saying is the exception rather than the norm. Corrupt religion is everywhere, most of the donations that religious institutions receive is black money.. cos there is no accountability.

My cousin has had first hand experience of witnessing corruption in one of the major Hindu temple in the US.. and almost all the board members have high paying jobs... they are extremely good at exploiting loop holes for personal gains. It really breaks my heart that many people trust these low life scums.. and I hope that organized religion loses its importance/ influence during my generation.

There have been many critics of organized religion over the centuries, many burned at the stake and their words forgotten. I try to run PR but for the most part it is a waste of time because people would rather hate without condition and generalize everything. I certainly don't treat people based on any discrimination.
 

spaceman

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u can omit the religion arguement and just come and say this forums is chock full of fucking douchebags
its edging near 50/50 these days
ffs
 

Nik

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There have been many critics of organized religion over the centuries, many burned at the stake and their words forgotten. I try to run PR but for the most part it is a waste of time because people would rather hate without condition and generalize everything. I certainly don't treat people based on any discrimination.

See? You'd rather play games than answer questions. Typical christian know-it-all.
 

Brigandier

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There have been many critics of organized religion over the centuries, many burned at the stake and their words forgotten. I try to run PR but for the most part it is a waste of time because people would rather hate without condition and generalize everything. I certainly don't treat people based on any discrimination.

You're alright, Jesus is love, and if Christians remember that they are alright too. As soon as they climb on a high horse is when they are worse than the worst. Someone that says they love you, but want you to change everything, that wasn't Christ. As I recall, the apostles were 12 of the biggest asshats in the world, and Jesus took them under his wing because of that. If Christians could remember this lesson, they'd be a lot better off.
 

Malak

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You're alright, Jesus is love, and if Christians remember that they are alright too. As soon as they climb on a high horse is when they are worse than the worst. Someone that says they love you, but want you to change everything, that wasn't Christ. As I recall, the apostles were 12 of the biggest asshats in the world, and Jesus took them under his wing because of that. If Christians could remember this lesson, they'd be a lot better off.

Exactly. One of the superstars was a reformed religious nutjob that did his best to murder Christians. People can change for the better, no reason to make permanent judgements that ruin potential futures.
 

busydude

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I certainly don't treat people based on any discrimination.

When someone works as a christian missionary.. I bet he tries to help only the people based on his/her caste, creed and religion. The whole agenda of missionaries is to convert them.
 

Nik

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Exactly. One of the superstars was a reformed religious nutjob that did his best to murder Christians. People can change for the better, no reason to make permanent judgements that ruin potential futures.

And people can also cower behind their ignorance instead of having a logical conversation to defend their silly superstitions.
 

Nik

Lifer
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When someone works as a christian missionary.. I bet he tries to help only the people based on his/her caste, creed and religion. The whole agenda of missionaries is to convert them.

Missionaries are the physical embodiment of eros love instead of agape love.
 

pcslookout

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I've got pretty thick skin when it comes to myself. Flame me all you want, I've probably heard it before. But all the hate that goes on around here is just getting out of control.

And now this place is getting flooded with anti-religion posts. I mean there is normally one or two going on but now its all the time. I'm very spiritual but I also realize that not everyone shares my views. That's fine. But why insult things that are Holy to us that are spiritual? Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself? What exactly do you get out of it?

While I do like it here, I don't like being insulted every time I log in.

Well hopefully this makes you feel better. They are trying to make me leave. The problem is anything they say or do won't change a thing. They can curse me out until pigs fly. It still won't do a god dawn thing. Each attack will bounce right off me and give me more powerful energy.

I feed off of the trolls and negative energy.

Good luck rudeguy you will need it as time goes on.
 

QueBert

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Who is "they" and wtf are you talking about?

They would be people like Godless, his brother and a good portion of ATOT. If a dude's shoving religion down their throats I could see them getting agitated. But, all it takes on here is a religious person mentioning religion and they get attacked and called every name under the sun. Sad that the ban sticks don't come out when a person's called a retarded fucker because they have a different belief than a twit like Godless or his mirror image brother.
 
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Malak

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When someone works as a christian missionary.. I bet he tries to help only the people based on his/her caste, creed and religion. The whole agenda of missionaries is to convert them.

The agenda of allthe missionaries I know personally has nothing to do with conversion. My friend and neighbor just came back from Thailand this week. He has been to a lot of places but his only agenda is to help. Bhurma is a crazy place and guess what, Rambo was wrong. Guns never solve problems.
 

RichUK

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I hate this place. At least the OT section. The only reason I post here is because the root domain is fairly innocuous and it passes the time when I've got nothing going at work. People are mean. Hurtful, negative, arrogant; some of the worst qualities I can imagine in anyone I read in posts here on a daily basis.

Anonymity is poisonous in the hands of angst-ridden shut-ins. In short, don't let em get to ya.

Shut up, pussy.
 

rudeguy

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rudeguy: I've got pretty thick skin when it comes to myself. Flame me all you want, I've probably heard it before. But all the hate that goes on around here is just getting out of control.

M: I've told you why a million times. Folk are consumed by self hate, so consumed in fact that they devote great attention to trying to make you feel as bad about yourself as they do about themselves. Of course, the same is true for you and there's the reason the truth of what I say isn't obvious to you. You would rather rage against the hate then see you have it too.

r: And now this place is getting flooded with anti-religion posts. I mean there is normally one or two going on but now its all the time. I'm very spiritual but I also realize that not everyone shares my views. That's fine. But why insult things that are Holy to us that are spiritual? Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself? What exactly do you get out of it?

M: Well if it does in fact make them feel better, there can only be one reason, that they feel worthless and making others hurt makes them feel better. But again, this is how we all are and don't want to admit it. No cure will happen that way.

Folk are lost, they do not know what they feel. They don't know they feel like shit. And what is spirituality supposed to do, that's right, make you feel good. So all the self hating folk in the world hate anything that offers hope because they feel hopeless inside. If they were to believe, they too would suffer. They would hurt when spirituality was insulted and they can't take any pain. If they opened the door to their inner pain they are sure they would die. That's because in fact they are emotionally dead. They died a long time ago. It is the living dead who hate.

Only he who can go up on the cross, suffer there, and die, can ever be resurrected. You have to die to be reborn.

There is only love. Poor poor sleeping humanity. We have chosen being viciously cool over being alive.

r: While I do like it here, I don't like being insulted every time I log in.

M; Nobody can insult you when you realize there was never anything wrong with you.



I love you. Can we make babies?
 

classy

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It's been the same ever since I joined 10 years ago.

Thats not true at all. In the last 4-5 years it has gotten terrible here. Its anti-christian, anti-minority (especially blacks), and anti-social. If you ain't white, bashing blacks, wanting death to illegal immigrants, down with the NRA and shooting up everyone, or going way overboard bashing Christians, or wanting to see Obama die, you ain't gonna have a whole lot in common with a lot of people here.

It used to be a rarity for many of the anti type threads, now they are a norm.
 
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