some people are here are making it very hard to stick around...

[spaceman]

it aint anywhere nears the same

 

[amdhunter]

Thats not true at all. In the last 4-5 years it has gotten terrible here. Its anti-christian, anti-minority (especially blacks), and anti-social.

Tell me about it. :\

 

[HAL9000]

Thats not true at all. In the last 4-5 years it has gotten terrible here. Its anti-christian, anti-minority (especially blacks), and anti-social. If you ain't white, bashing blacks, wanting death to illegal immigrants, down with the NRA and shooting up everyone, or going way overboard bashing Christians, or wanting to see Obama die, you ain't gonna have a whole lot in common with a lot of people here.

It used to be a rarity for many of the anti type threads, now they are a norm.

Yeah I've noticed that and I'm new!.
Not the racism though...?
Everyone here loves guns, hates Obama.

Although bashing religion is a good thing.

 

[rudeguy]

but in all seriousness, I get it.

There are a lot of people out there who's lives are so worthless that they feel the need to bring others down to their level. Its very frustrating but even more than that its just sad. Its not just this forum, its people in general. Its obvious that the human race has devolved into something with slightly fewer morals than a piece of lawn furniture. I'm also quite sure that the average IQ is somewhere right around lawn furniture.

So I'll stop juding. Its not my place to deem you immoral, racist, heartless, soulless or clueless. I'll let those of you that choose to, keep on proving it on your own.

Carry on then

 

[HeXen]

but in all seriousness, I get it.

There are a lot of people out there who's lives are so worthless that they feel the need to bring others down to their level. Its very frustrating but even more than that its just sad. Its not just this forum, its people in general. Its obvious that the human race has devolved into something with slightly fewer morals than a piece of lawn furniture. I'm also quite sure that the average IQ is somewhere right around lawn furniture.

So I'll stop juding. Its not my place to deem you immoral, racist, heartless, soulless or clueless. I'll let those of you that choose to, keep on proving it on your own.

Carry on then

humans have always been like that. the complex psychology is related to environment and when anonymous, even the nicest careing people do evil things.

all of us are capable of murder, torturing..etc under the right environment. All that carries over onto the interwebs just the same where our wants and desires mixed with anonymity will tell us how we want to behave in any particular virtual space. Sometimes all it takes is a provocation from someone else's Psycho fest.

 

[alkemyst]

humans have always been like that. the complex psychology is related to environment and when anonymous, even the nicest careing people do evil things.

all of us are capable of murder, torturing..etc under the right environment. All that carries over onto the interwebs just the same where our wants and desires mixed with anonymity will tell us how we want to behave in any particular virtual space. Sometimes all it takes is a provocation from someone else's Psycho fest.

not really, most that think they can murder/torture would have their asses handed to them by some old lady they thought would be easy prey and then pulled by the ear home to their trailer trash mothers.

 

[destrekor]

I asked a question too. You answer and I will.

My only argument has always been that Christ is love. Anyone can call themselves a Christian, but that doesn't make it true. I just want love.

In your opinion, can I replace love for a divine deity with that of love that is all inclusive of all that is natural and specifically for our species?

Shouldn't that be enough? Love and devote life to that which is all around us, no worship needed. More importantly, love and devote ones life, selflessly, to the progress and betterment of our species as a collective whole.

I recently had a discussion/debate with a fellow military officer (of course we were drinking - I avoid that topic like a plague with coworkers when sober), and he readily stated that atheism doesn't make sense because it will only lead to ultimate chaos, a failure of morality, and all that is good in life. I'm thinking, what? I certainly don't resemble that remark.

 

[Malak]

In your opinion, can I replace love for a divine deity with that of love that is all inclusive of all that is natural and specifically for our species?

Shouldn't that be enough? Love and devote life to that which is all around us, no worship needed. More importantly, love and devote ones life, selflessly, to the progress and betterment of our species as a collective whole.

I recently had a discussion/debate with a fellow military officer (of course we were drinking - I avoid that topic like a plague with coworkers when sober), and he readily stated that atheism doesn't make sense because it will only lead to ultimate chaos, a failure of morality, and all that is good in life. I'm thinking, what? I certainly don't resemble that remark.

I disagree that any belief concerning theism necessarily has a direct correlation towards how society works as a whole. We have perfect examples of people doing good and evil regardless of what they claim to believe.

I want to give you something to consider though, because I do understand your viewpoint. Love is worship. It says in the bible that all commandments of God are summed in love. Religious rules and traditions in general have nothing to do with God, the bible is explicitly against such things. This is why the catholic church burned so many Christians at the stake, to avoid these ideas from spreading. God only wants love from you. That is everything, no tiny text. He doesn't care how old you think the earth is or even if you think evolution is correct

 

[sandorski]

I disagree that any belief concerning theism necessarily has a direct correlation towards how society works as a whole. We have perfect examples of people doing good and evil regardless of what they claim to believe.

I want to give you something to consider though, because I do understand your viewpoint. Love is worship. It says in the bible that all commandments of God are summed in love. Religious rules and traditions in general have nothing to do with God, the bible is explicitly against such things. This is why the catholic church burned so many Christians at the stake, to avoid these ideas from spreading. God only wants love from you. That is everything, no tiny text. He doesn't care how old you think the earth is or even if you think evolution is correct

Fail.

 

[busydude]

Work is worship

 

[Sasiki]

I stopped posting here a long time ago because of religion bashing.. not that I was a very active member anyway. I'm a Christian because it's what I believe and we talk about Christianity because we are commanded to go into the world and PREACH the good news! Mark 16:15

 

[sandorski]

I stopped posting here a long time ago because of religion bashing.. not that I was a very active member anyway. I'm a Christian because it's what I believe and we talk about Christianity because we are commanded to go into the world and PREACH the good news! Mark 16:15

Yes, spread the virus.

 

[zerocool84]

I stopped posting here a long time ago because of religion bashing.. not that I was a very active member anyway. I'm a Christian because it's what I believe and we talk about Christianity because we are commanded to go into the world and PREACH the good news! Mark 16:15

Ok so I command every Atheist to PREACH the good news about not following religion.

 

[Malak]

Ok so I command every Atheist to PREACH the good news about not following religion.

That at a basic level is a part of the gospel.

 

[Zebo]

I only bash it when they do stupid shit because god said so. Religion is nothing more than some dudes or dude getting together and crafting laws which they think make society better. No different than a dictator or a republic making laws we must serve by other than the higher power aspect and that's what's frustrating to people the immutable nature of it all since it supposedly came from this super being.

Anyway do so stupid shit and no one will bash.

 

[zerocool84]

That at a basic level is a part of the gospel.

Ok well you guys believe that someone told you to do that so I'm telling all Atheists to do it as well.

 

[Sea Moose]

Why don't people who dislike religion, stay out of religious threads?

Why dont people who love the sky fairie stay out of science/technology forums?

:hmm:

 

[Sea Moose]

Religion lost all credibility when this video surfaced

Star wars theme wtf???

 

[caddlad]

.... we talk about Christianity because we are commanded to go into the world and PREACH the good news! Mark 16:15

Your sky cake is beyond delicious.

 

[pcslookout]

humans have always been like that. the complex psychology is related to environment and when anonymous, even the nicest careing people do evil things.

all of us are capable of murder, torturing..etc under the right environment. All that carries over onto the interwebs just the same where our wants and desires mixed with anonymity will tell us how we want to behave in any particular virtual space. Sometimes all it takes is a provocation from someone else's Psycho fest.

Exactly. A person here or anywhere could get a random normal, nice, good working 41 year old married guy with a family, that has never been in trouble with the law before, to murder another person if they really wanted to. It happens all the time.

 

[IronWing]

I stopped posting here a long time ago because of religion bashing.. not that I was a very active member anyway. I'm a Christian because it's what I believe and we talk about Christianity because we are commanded to go into the world and PREACH the good news! Mark 16:15

No, you preach because you choose to. Don't try to pass the buck off on a bunch of dead guys; it is your choice to preach. Just as it is my choice to type this.

 

[Chaotic42]

I stopped posting here a long time ago because of religion bashing.. not that I was a very active member anyway. I'm a Christian because it's what I believe and we talk about Christianity because we are commanded to go into the world and PREACH the good news! Mark 16:15

I believe that there's also a verse which tells you to stop preaching to someone if they don't want to hear it.

If you guys are so sure of your faith, and you're knowingly going into a community where there are non-Christians *and* you're trying to preach to them, how is it that you become so offended when people tell you you're wrong? Isn't your faith more solid than that?

Besides, this is not a religious forum, and it's worldwide. I find it amazing that people are getting their feelings hurt, especially the OP.

 

[rudeguy]

I believe that there's also a verse which tells you to stop preaching to someone if they don't want to hear it.

If you guys are so sure of your faith, and you're knowingly going into a community where there are non-Christians *and* you're trying to preach to them, how is it that you become so offended when people tell you you're wrong? Isn't your faith more solid than that?

Besides, this is not a religious forum, and it's worldwide. I find it amazing that people are getting their feelings hurt, especially the OP.

Your argument is full of fail. First, when have I kept preaching in a thread when I was told to stop? I only enter religious debates if its civil and intelligent.

For your second point, please see my first. Your straw man is very weak here. I've been around a very long time and don't remember any thread dedicated to trying to convert non-Christians into Christians. If you could link me, that would be great.

Then your last points really confuse me. This isn't an anti-religion forum either. What does the fact that we have members from all over have to do with people being offended by the insults and attacks that others post? Wouldn't it make more sense for people to be sensitive of other's beliefs? I've never attacked Islam, Hindu or even atheists for their beliefs. However Christians beliefs are attacked every day.

 

[olds]

Your argument is full of fail. First, when have I kept preaching in a thread when I was told to stop? I only enter religious debates if its civil and intelligent.

For your second point, please see my first. Your straw man is very weak here. I've been around a very long time and don't remember any thread dedicated to trying to convert non-Christians into Christians. If you could link me, that would be great.

Then your last points really confuse me. This isn't an anti-religion forum either. What does the fact that we have members from all over have to do with people being offended by the insults and attacks that others post? Wouldn't it make more sense for people to be sensitive of other's beliefs? I've never attacked Islam, Hindu or even atheists for their beliefs. However Christians beliefs are attacked every day.

I don't believe he was speaking to you. And edit your thread title to English, please.

 

[Nik]

Yeah I've noticed that and I'm new!.
Not the racism though...?
Everyone here loves guns, hates Obama.

Although bashing religion is a good thing.

Ignore Classy. He's so ridiculously racist and defensive that he'll infer a racist comment from literally ANYTHING. He, himself, is a bigger troll (and much more offensive) than many people here.

Also, AMDHunter is NOT black.