Some polls now have Romney ahead.

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buckshot24

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The turnout numbers by party affiliation. That bit of limited number data you were using earlier.
The history of those numbers wouldn't suggest a 7 point split either. That was the maximum with most of the years having pretty equal percentages for each party.
 

jackstar7

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The history of those numbers wouldn't suggest a 7 point split either. That was the maximum with most of the years having pretty equal percentages for each party.

Do you have the current breakdowns of D/R/I?

The numbers I saw showed a much higher number for registered Democrats than Republicans, so not only do you need high R turnout, but I's have to pull in the R direction as well to overcome the higher numbers.

And all this is if you are bothering with national numbers.
 
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jackstar7

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Do the numbers support a 7 point split? Yes or no?

The point I was making in the post above (edited while you were typing apparently) is that D's do not require such a split in the first place. Actually R's do in their favor.
 

jackstar7

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Dude, his party affiliation poll from 2008 was pretty close, very close. If you want to quibble that Rasmussen was off by under 1 percent in the final poll then be my guest. What did he predict 52-46? And it was 53-46? Yeah that sucks

You're saying his numbers have merit. If you're going to pick up some that are valid and ignore the ones that aren't... I believe there's a word for that. And it's not flattering.
 

buckshot24

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The point I was making in the post above (edited while you were typing apparently) is that D's do not require such a split in the first place. Actually R's do in their favor.
Not when the I's favor the R's by a large margin.

2004 was even and bush won by 2.
2008 was +7 D and the D won by 7
2010 was even and it was a blow out for Republicans

So your statement flies in the face of the facts.
 

buckshot24

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You're saying his numbers have merit. If you're going to pick up some that are valid and ignore the ones that aren't... I believe there's a word for that. And it's not flattering.
I don't know which numbers of his I'm ignoring.

He was right on the money in 2008 for both party affiliation and popular vote. If you're insinuating that it was based upon luck then I'm interested in how you would support that.

We have Rasmussen and Gallup saying that we will have turnout closer to 2004/2010 than 2008. I'm sure there are others.
 

buckshot24

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Rasmussen was off on his 2010 polls but since that was in a midterm we can ignore that, right?
 

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More crazies calling it for Mitt Romney, this time Karl Rove saying Romney by 3%, 51-48, and "probably" getting more than 279 electoral votes. Of course, Morris and Rove are the blindly faithful, but note that Rove (like Morris) has a horrid track record, claiming (for example) thatRepubs would gain House seats in 2006.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83150.html

Republican strategist Karl Rove predicts Mitt Romney will win the election with at least 279 electoral votes.

In his column in The Wall Street Journal, Rove said the Republican presidential candidate is winning at every level of the numbers game, “from polling data to early voting.”
“Sometime after the cock crows on the morning of Nov. 7, Mitt Romney will be declared America’s 45th president,” Rove wrote on Wednesday night. “Let’s call it 51%-48%, with Mr. Romney carrying at least 279 Electoral College votes, probably more.”

He argued that Romney has a “small but persistent polling edge,” leading in 19 of the 31 national surveys released in the last week, he said, and the GOP candidate “was at or above 50 percent in 10 polls, Obama in none.” President Barack Obama was ahead in seven of the polls, Rove said, and five were tied.

The former senior aide to President George W. Bush also cited data from Gallup that, he said, indicated Republicans might have a slight edge on voter turnout, and that so far, the GOP was also winning early voting.

“Furthermore, in battleground states, the edge in early and absentee vote turnout that propelled Democrats to victory in 2008 has clearly been eroded, cut in half according to a Republican National Committee summary,” Rove said. “But doesn’t it all come down to the all-important Buckeye State? Here, too, the early voting news isn’t encouraging for the president.”

Notice that he doesn't get into any specifics about which states, lol.
 

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You're ignoring that he was hardly the most correct in '08, so I imagine you can do whatever continues to amuse you.

Rasmussen was 12th most accurate in 2008, something middling like that.

Also horribly wrong on Ohio in 08 by 6%.
 

Balt

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More crazies calling it for Mitt Romney, this time Karl Rove saying Romney by 3%, 51-48, and "probably" getting more than 279 electoral votes. Of course, Morris and Rove are the blindly faithful, but note that Rove (like Morris) has a horrid track record, claiming (for example) thatRepubs would gain House seats in 2006.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83150.html



Notice that he doesn't get into any specifics about which states, lol.

Hah. I remember Rove's quotation from 2006:

"You may end up with a different math, but you're entitled to your math. I'm entitled to the math."

What a douche.
 

buckshot24

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Rasmussen was 12th most accurate in 2008, something middling like that.

Also horribly wrong on Ohio in 08 by 6%.
I see you've changed your tune because earlier in the thread you said he was pretty good in 08.

For goodness sakes though he said 52-46 and it was 53-46 and he blows.
 

buckshot24

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You're ignoring that he was hardly the most correct in '08, so I imagine you can do whatever continues to amuse you.
Dude you're looning out here. 52-46 is what he said and it was 53-46. That's pretty good. But in any case you're trying to argue that his party affiliation numbers are off enough to get from 36.8% Republican vs 34.2% Democrat to 2008 numbers of 39 D-32 R.

Given that the very same poll said that there were 33.3% R and 40.3% D in October 2008 and that the exit poll has it at 39-32 the gap is exactly the same 7%. What evidence do you have that his current poll is off by -4.8% among Democrats and +4.8% for Republicans.

You have to believe that his poll is so shitty that it is off by 10 points if you think 2008 turnout will occur in 2012. Then you have Gallup saying pretty much the exact same thing.
 
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