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D-Man

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Originally Posted by Moonbeam
Democrats went from conservative to liberal and Republicans from liberal to conservative, so the CBD switched parties. Democrats used to have a brain defect but the defectives switched parties.
Actually I think you just painted yourself in a corner. If you feel CBD is real and then you state it switched parties you have just lied to make a point which in itself is defective.

You stated earlier that "it has also been scientifically proven that drunkenness and fear turn liberals into conservatives" By this reasoning when you speak of switching parties you are saying liberals are drunks living in fear.

Please don't fall back into self loathing Moonbeam we all love you on this forum well most of us. My wife and I are hoping to move soon we have another house and you are still welcome to visit us. If it helps I am willing to buy you all the booze you can drink hell I may even join you. I have been defective all my life. I am human and as such have all the human frailties built in.
 

Greenman

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You poor babies. I hope it helps to know you're special to me.

Why "poor babies"? I don't have any issue with you posting here, nor do I care what you do or don't get away with. If it really bothered me I'd either put you on ignore, or find another forum to post at.

I actually don't have anyone on my ignore list. There are two or three fellows here who's posts I don't read, I just skim for key words as they all generally have the same content, or they need 4 paragraphs to express an idea that could be said in one sentence.

So please, don't feel sorry for me. I'm a big boy and if I ever can't take the heat, I'll find another lunatic fringe group to chat with.
 

Moonbeam

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Why "poor babies"? I don't have any issue with you posting here, nor do I care what you do or don't get away with. If it really bothered me I'd either put you on ignore, or find another forum to post at.

I actually don't have anyone on my ignore list. There are two or three fellows here who's posts I don't read, I just skim for key words as they all generally have the same content, or they need 4 paragraphs to express an idea that could be said in one sentence.

So please, don't feel sorry for me. I'm a big boy and if I ever can't take the heat, I'll find another lunatic fringe group to chat with.
You sound just like me with the exception that I have never thought of anybody here as getting 'special' treatment from the mods. I guess I not only don't care what others get away with, I care so little it doesn't cross my mind. In fact, I can't ever recall accusing anybody of trolling. What I hear when people say that is that they don't want to hear something and are looking for ways to pretend it's not important. This would be a common phenomenon among those with a CBD. Even my IPad predicted that.
 

Greenman

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You sound just like me with the exception that I have never thought of anybody here as getting 'special' treatment from the mods. I guess I not only don't care what others get away with, I care so little it doesn't cross my mind. In fact, I can't ever recall accusing anybody of trolling. What I hear when people say that is that they don't want to hear something and are looking for ways to pretend it's not important. This would be a common phenomenon among those with a CBD. Even my IPad predicted that.

You left out the most common reason for calling someone a troll, because they are.
Trolling isn't always a bad thing, some people are pretty good at, that can be very entertaining. Some folks lack the talent though, and they end up flogging a dead horse forever. That's not the least bit amusing, and in fact becomes tiresome. Then there a very few that are just plain dumb, Of course they think they're gifted writers, and very well versed in science and philosophy, they also get angry when everyone doesn't see how bright they are and agree with them. Those are trolls by virtue of stupidity.

Sometimes you never know, I could be trolling right now. ()
 

Moonbeam

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You left out the most common reason for calling someone a troll, because they are.
Trolling isn't always a bad thing, some people are pretty good at, that can be very entertaining. Some folks lack the talent though, and they end up flogging a dead horse forever. That's not the least bit amusing, and in fact becomes tiresome. Then there a very few that are just plain dumb, Of course they think they're gifted writers, and very well versed in science and philosophy, they also get angry when everyone doesn't see how bright they are and agree with them. Those are trolls by virtue of stupidity.

Sometimes you never know, I could be trolling right now. ()

Thank you for your truthiness generated egotistically manufactured opinion. I am sure it provides you with a warm and fuzzy feeling you know what you are talking about while to me it just sounds more like a pile of horse shit. I left out all this garbage you proclam I missed because My brain doesn't manufacture it. As I said, the concept that others are trolling is a common strategy deployed by the CBD to deflect ego demoralizing ideas. This is what you do. This is what you cannot see that you do. This is what you will always do so long as you need your ego to deny the fact that your ego is the altered reality you require and thereby invented to protect you from your hidden self hate. You're a nice kid. I hate to bring you this bad news. Here, have a cookie. By the time you finish eating it you'll feel right as rain.
 

Atreus21

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The brain defect of the conservative type has huge negative ramifications for the American people, and all people around the world.

Fear and the low level thinking it produces gives us things like war, a police state, and the pernicious degradation of the human psyche via competition and the fear of being a loser and the rage that comes with feeling one is.

Fear cause projection, the feeling that 'the other' feels what we feel with the intention to get him before he gets us. This is the cause of war and all the human misery that produces.

Fear causes insecurity, is insecurity itself, with all the ego needs to protect oneself from the system we create out of fear, a competitive society. It turns children sour at a young age and makes them want to bully anybody who seems weaker. This is how we create monsters and victims of our kids.

Competitive failure also creates a criminal mind set and a police state to create a repressive state of fear that breaking the law will ruin your life. This is why we have so many police brutality threads.

Fear may be the mind killer, but it kills way more than just minds. The CBD isn't good for the world. But when you tell the sick they are sick, not with some curable malady, but with a mental illness, they just get angry.

Naturally, anger is nothing but another face of fear.

It seems so odd that one can have a disease that is killing humanity and not want to cop to having it, don't you think?

Too bad that ignorance is bliss has an expiration date even if we don't know exactly when.

We have met the enemy and he is us.



m'kay?
 

Greenman

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Thank you for your truthiness generated egotistically manufactured opinion. I am sure it provides you with a warm and fuzzy feeling you know what you are talking about while to me it just sounds more like a pile of horse shit. I left out all this garbage you proclam I missed because My brain doesn't manufacture it. As I said, the concept that others are trolling is a common strategy deployed by the CBD to deflect ego demoralizing ideas. This is what you do. This is what you cannot see that you do. This is what you will always do so long as you need your ego to deny the fact that your ego is the altered reality you require and thereby invented to protect you from your hidden self hate. You're a nice kid. I hate to bring you this bad news. Here, have a cookie. By the time you finish eating it you'll feel right as rain.

Guess I hit a nerve, sorry.

Lets say for the sake of argument that I really do have the cooties. Your thesis seems to be that because of having them I'm unable to process ideas or facts that don't align with my cootie infested brain. If that's the case, aren't I an innocent victim? Shouldn't I be getting a check from the government every month because of my disability? Isn't it rather crass of you to bring it up in every single post you make?
I assume there is some point to the cootie campaign you're on, what is it?
 

cubby1223

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Moonbeam is a drama queen. The only way to play is to ignore him when he throws his tantrums. Nothing positive ever comes from arguing with him.
 

chucky2

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But his tantrums are entertaining. How fun would it be to visit P&N and not see the crazy posts? The audience doesn't go to the freak show to watch the audience...
 

ivwshane

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Guess I hit a nerve, sorry.

Lets say for the sake of argument that I really do have the cooties. Your thesis seems to be that because of having them I'm unable to process ideas or facts that don't align with my cootie infested brain. If that's the case, aren't I an innocent victim? Shouldn't I be getting a check from the government every month because of my disability? Isn't it rather crass of you to bring it up in every single post you make?
I assume there is some point to the cootie campaign you're on, what is it?

Yeah, it's to make you aware of your "defect". Conversely I'm aware of my "defect" and I try to adjust my thinking accordingly, which is why I tend to rely on hard cold facts and historic data versus my gut feeling that people are inherently good.

It seems you have chosen to ignore your "defect" and instead attack the messenger. It's ok, sometimes science doesn't give us the answers we want to hear. Eventually you may end up getting tired of rationalizing your views and you will stop trying to explain away the facts that disrupt your bubble. However that's just my LBD thinking you can be better than you are.
 

cubby1223

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Yeah, it's to make you aware of your "defect". Conversely I'm aware of my "defect" and I try to adjust my thinking accordingly, which is why I tend to rely on hard cold facts and historic data versus my gut feeling that people are inherently good.

Ha! Thanks for the laugh tonight! That was funny
 

Moonbeam

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Guess I hit a nerve, sorry.

Lets say for the sake of argument that I really do have the cooties. Your thesis seems to be that because of having them I'm unable to process ideas or facts that don't align with my cootie infested brain. If that's the case, aren't I an innocent victim? Shouldn't I be getting a check from the government every month because of my disability? Isn't it rather crass of you to bring it up in every single post you make?
I assume there is some point to the cootie campaign you're on, what is it?

Good questions. All the wrong questions, of course, because of the cooties, but we can try to talk if you are sure you can actually consider you have some sort of defect, even though it keeps you from properly viewing it.

If so we can start with the notion that there is nothing wrong with you except that you believe there is and this belief makes you defensive. So let's say you are defensive because you believe, unconsciously of course, there is something wrong with you and because you are defensive and don't need to be, you react improperly to anybody saying you have the defect of being defensive needlessly.

This defensiveness makes it impossible for you to see you are defensive because you have have the belief that being defensive is a bad thing. But it saved you as a child. You learned to tune out any feelings of inferiority, to find ego comfort in say, conformity. So let's stop there for now and get your opinion so far.

Again, so far I have said you have cooties because your fear of having then gives them to you and because there is nothing to fear you have them needlessly. My issue is that I believe the unconscious nature of this means you actually pay an emotional price for this, that you suffer needlessly and don't know it. I used to suffer from this but I do not suffer now. If you suffer you will not suffer. I inhabit a world that is inside out and backwards from your own and it's wonderful.
 

Greenman

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Good questions. All the wrong questions, of course, because of the cooties, but we can try to talk if you are sure you can actually consider you have some sort of defect, even though it keeps you from properly viewing it.

If so we can start with the notion that there is nothing wrong with you except that you believe there is and this belief makes you defensive. So let's say you are defensive because you believe, unconsciously of course, there is something wrong with you and because you are defensive and don't need to be, you react improperly to anybody saying you have the defect of being defensive needlessly.

This defensiveness makes it impossible for you to see you are defensive because you have have the belief that being defensive is a bad thing. But it saved you as a child. You learned to tune out any feelings of inferiority, to find ego comfort in say, conformity. So let's stop there for now and get your opinion so far.

Again, so far I have said you have cooties because your fear of having then gives them to you and because there is nothing to fear you have them needlessly. My issue is that I believe the unconscious nature of this means you actually pay an emotional price for this, that you suffer needlessly and don't know it. I used to suffer from this but I do not suffer now. If you suffer you will not suffer. I inhabit a world that is inside out and backwards from your own and it's wonderful.

Can I assume you're unwilling or unable to answer my questions?
 

Greenman

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Yeah, it's to make you aware of your "defect". Conversely I'm aware of my "defect" and I try to adjust my thinking accordingly, which is why I tend to rely on hard cold facts and historic data versus my gut feeling that people are inherently good.

It seems you have chosen to ignore your "defect" and instead attack the messenger. It's ok, sometimes science doesn't give us the answers we want to hear. Eventually you may end up getting tired of rationalizing your views and you will stop trying to explain away the facts that disrupt your bubble. However that's just my LBD thinking you can be better than you are.

That's quite an argument you have there.
The "message" is an attack created by the messenger. Who else would I take the issue up with? There being three people on earth who actually promote this stupidity, it's not exactly a target rich environment.
 

Moonbeam

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M: I have sometime so let me try to answer your questions.

G: Guess I hit a nerve, sorry.

M: Hitting a nerve is an expression that actually refers to doing something that evokes another person's unconscious self hate by making somebody re experience some negative they feel. We often intend and hope to do this because we want them to feel as bad as we do. Because I see this for what it is, even if you do strike a nerve, I won't get angry at you for it because you touched something that I was unaware I felt. You just made me aware of a feeling I had been feeling forever. Again, this is upside down from how people respond who don't know they hate themselves. There is nothing wrong with me but I somehow felt there was. From this I learn who I am.

G: Lets say for the sake of argument that I really do have the cooties. Your thesis seems to be that because of having them I'm unable to process ideas or facts that don't align with my cootie infested brain.

M: You don't have cooties, only the unconscious feeling that you do.

G: If that's the case, aren't I an innocent victim? Shouldn't I be getting a check from the government every month because of my disability?

M: You are totally innocent, but you are full of unconscious guilt so your innocence count't for nothing. The fact that you manage your life successfully should tell you that your deeply hidden feelings of worthlessness are a lie.

G: Isn't it rather crass of you to bring it up in every single post you make?
I assume there is some point to the cootie campaign you're on, what is it?

M: You won't figure out you don't have cooties so long as you don't know you feel you do. You believe in a lie and don't know it. The fear of knowing what we feel makes us crazy.
 

Moonbeam

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Can I assume you're unwilling or unable to answer my questions?

I took the time to answer them which I was doing while you posted, because I felt you would react if I didn't. Know though that I could only answer truthfully. I can't make what I said an acceptable answer in your opinion.
 
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