That's some powerful reality distortion you've got going there. Democrats are renowned and often attacked for being spineless precisely because they apologize TOO MUCH, not sitting there smugly holding their ground.
Originally posted by: Ronstang
At least he apologized. If it were a Dem all of you would be doing the apologizing while he smugly held his ground and position.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Originally posted by: Ronstang
At least he apologized. If it were a Dem all of you would be doing the apologizing while he smugly held his ground and position.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
I keep providing you the CRS link, you just refuse to read it.
Here it is again for like the 6th time.
http://opencrs.com/document/R40773/
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
I keep providing you the CRS link, you just refuse to read it.
Here it is again for like the 6th time.
http://opencrs.com/document/R40773/
H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange?whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently.
Notably, many categories of nonimmigrants in the United States who have work authorization (i.e., temporary workers) would meet the definition of a resident alien, and as a result would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance. Nonetheless, many of these aliens would be ineligible for the credits under the bill. For example, professional specialty workers (H-1B) are admitted to the United States for up to three years, and can stay for a maximum of six years. Thus, in general, these aliens would be considered resident aliens under the I.R.C. and would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance, but would be ineligible for the credits under the bill because they are nonimmigrants.31
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
I keep providing you the CRS link, you just refuse to read it.
Here it is again for like the 6th time.
http://opencrs.com/document/R40773/
We've read it. Maybe you should quote the parts from it that you think show that Obama's plan will cover illegal immigrants. I already have a good idea of what you're going to quote, and it's going to make you look like a moron.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
I keep providing you the CRS link, you just refuse to read it.
Here it is again for like the 6th time.
http://opencrs.com/document/R40773/
I read that,
your argument is since illegals can buy healthcare at full cost (no subsidy) they're getting free healthcare with this reform?
From the document:
H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange?whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently.
Notably, many categories of nonimmigrants in the United States who have work authorization (i.e., temporary workers) would meet the definition of a resident alien, and as a result would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance. Nonetheless, many of these aliens would be ineligible for the credits under the bill. For example, professional specialty workers (H-1B) are admitted to the United States for up to three years, and can stay for a maximum of six years. Thus, in general, these aliens would be considered resident aliens under the I.R.C. and would be required under H.R. 3200 to have health insurance, but would be ineligible for the credits under the bill because they are nonimmigrants.31
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: spidey07
Obama needs to be called out on all his lies, publicly. This was not an appropriate venue.
Repeating the same line won't make your argument true. You still haven't provided a single bit of evidence to the contrary.
I keep providing you the CRS link, you just refuse to read it.
Here it is again for like the 6th time.
http://opencrs.com/document/R40773/
We've read it. Maybe you should quote the parts from it that you think show that Obama's plan will cover illegal immigrants. I already have a good idea of what you're going to quote, and it's going to make you look like a moron.
Ok, then explain how illegal aliens are restricted from participating (covered) by the exchange or public option?
"H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens participating in the Exchange?whether the noncitizens are legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently."
Originally posted by: halik
Check the above above... fusetalk is a steaming pile of timewarping shit.
Public option is for all practical purposes dead, just about everyone has conceded that ain't happening. On the other note, there isn't and shouldn't be anything to stop them from getting insurance out of pocket. Same way illegals can get their own private insurance right now.
The key argument here is illegals getting healthcare from us (free/subsidized), which won't be happening.
Originally posted by: Ronstang
At least he apologized. If it were a Dem all of you would be doing the apologizing while he smugly held his ground and position.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Check the above above... fusetalk is a steaming pile of timewarping shit.
Public option is for all practical purposes dead, just about everyone has conceded that ain't happening. On the other note, there isn't and shouldn't be anything to stop them from getting insurance out of pocket. Same way illegals can get their own private insurance right now.
The key argument here is illegals getting healthcare from us (free/subsidized), which won't be happening.
Currently there is nothing preventing that from happening as they can participate in the exchange/public option. Until the bills/legislation make it clear that they WILL NOT BE COVERED OR INCLUDED then obama lies.
It's real simple, just put some verbage in there to make it so. Why does obama and congress keep dancing around it?
Originally posted by: mstersmith
To bad he apologised. I guess we forgot the Dems booing bush during his speaches. I was cheering that some one had the balls to stand up to that turn coat POS Obama. He is lying the 3rd world trash will get coverage and he knows it. I hope Obama catches a damn bullet.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Check the above above... fusetalk is a steaming pile of timewarping shit.
Public option is for all practical purposes dead, just about everyone has conceded that ain't happening. On the other note, there isn't and shouldn't be anything to stop them from getting insurance out of pocket. Same way illegals can get their own private insurance right now.
The key argument here is illegals getting healthcare from us (free/subsidized), which won't be happening.
Currently there is nothing preventing that from happening as they can participate in the exchange/public option. I know illegals wont' be getting credits, that's clear. Until the bills/legislation make it clear that they WILL NOT BE COVERED OR INCLUDED in funding done by tax payers (exchange and/or public option) then obama lies.
It's real simple, just put some verbage in there to make it so. Why does obama and congress keep dancing around it?
Originally posted by: mstersmith
To bad he apologised. I guess we forgot the Dems booing bush during his speaches. I was cheering that some one had the balls to stand up to that turn coat POS Obama. He is lying the 3rd world trash will get coverage and he knows it. I hope Obama catches a damn bullet.
Originally posted by: mstersmith
To bad he apologised. I guess we forgot the Dems booing bush during his speaches. I was cheering that some one had the balls to stand up to that turn coat POS Obama. He is lying the 3rd world trash will get coverage and he knows it. I hope Obama catches a damn bullet.
Originally posted by: mstersmith
To bad he apologised. I guess we forgot the Dems booing bush during his speaches. I was cheering that some one had the balls to stand up to that turn coat POS Obama. He is lying the 3rd world trash will get coverage and he knows it. I hope Obama catches a damn bullet.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: halik
Check the above above... fusetalk is a steaming pile of timewarping shit.
Public option is for all practical purposes dead, just about everyone has conceded that ain't happening. On the other note, there isn't and shouldn't be anything to stop them from getting insurance out of pocket. Same way illegals can get their own private insurance right now.
The key argument here is illegals getting healthcare from us (free/subsidized), which won't be happening.
Currently there is nothing preventing that from happening as they can participate in the exchange/public option. I know illegals wont' be getting credits, that's clear. Until the bills/legislation make it clear that they WILL NOT BE COVERED OR INCLUDED in funding done by tax payers (exchange and/or public option) then obama lies.
It's real simple, just put some verbage in there to make it so. Why does obama and congress keep dancing around it?
False. A new report finds the bill could require illegal immigrants to buy coverage, but it clearly restricts subsidies to U.S. citizens and legal residents.
http://tinyurl.com/pumvjo
Originally posted by: Ronstang
At least he apologized. If it were a Dem all of you would be doing the apologizing while he smugly held his ground and position.