someone esplain diamonds to me

[ElFenix]

what color and clarity are actually visible? how about cut grades? also, seems like round cut is far more expensive than princess. whyzat?

<--- knows of the levels but not real world

 

[mugs]

F is the lower end of the "colorless" range, so that's what I got. I'm not sure if you could tell a difference between F and G though.

Clarity - even SI2 should not have any defects that are visible to the naked eye, but even defects that you can't see can affect the light as it passes through the diamond and result in less brilliance.

Cut is the biggest factor in how much light is reflected back out of the diamond I believe, so I wouldn't skimp on it. If anything, I'd skimp on size. Better to have a beautiful but smaller diamond than a big not so beautiful diamond.

As for why cuts are more or less expensives, I have no idea but I'd guess it's because some cuts allow them to use more or less of the rough diamond, and some cuts (heart) allow them to cut around defects.

 

[Q]

Diamonds are forever.

There, I explained it.

 

[Nitemare]

De Beers wants your money

/end thread

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mugs
F is the lower end of the "colorless" range, so that's what I got. I'm not sure if you could tell a difference between F and G though.

Clarity - even SI2 should not have any defects that are visible to the naked eye, but even defects that you can't see can affect the light as it passes through the diamond and result in less brilliance.

Cut is the biggest factor in how much light is reflected back out of the diamond I believe, so I wouldn't skimp on it. If anything, I'd skimp on size. Better to have a beautiful but smaller diamond than a big not so beautiful diamond.

As for why cuts are more or less expensives, I have no idea but I'd guess it's because some cuts allow them to use more or less of the rough diamond, and some cuts (heart) allow them to cut around defects.

:thumbsup:

thanks

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Quintox
Diamonds are forever.

There, I explained it.

Actually... they're not

 

[0roo0roo]

doesn't matter, its all an epic scam on gullible women.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: Quintox
Diamonds are forever.

There, I explained it.

Diamonds are stupid

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't matter, its all an epic scam on gullible women.

Pretty much. Oh, and the more gullible men who originally gave into this crap and got it all started. "Sure honey, I'll get you a chunk of carbon that's not even remotely rare and would be pretty much worthless if not for a monopoly and endless marketing hype. And I'll gladly spend a boatload of money on it too."

 

[ponyo]

Real world? Size > all. First thing people notice is the size of the rock.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Quintox
Diamonds are forever.

There, I explained it.

Actually... they're not

Cubic zirconium, interestingly enough, degrades MUCH more slowly than diamond under ambient conditions.

 

[Jeff7]

Diamond threads are forever.

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't matter, its all an epic scam on gullible women.

Pretty much. Oh, and the more gullible men who originally gave into this crap and got it all started. "Sure honey, I'll get you a chunk of carbon that's not even remotely rare and would be pretty much worthless if not for a monopoly and endless marketing hype. And I'll gladly spend a boatload of money on it too."

And here I sit, idle, knowing that all I have to do is start telling people that something is really valuable. If I say it enough times, maybe people will start believing it.

Problems:
1) Ethics. Ethics are always a roadblock in the path to easy money.
But is it really unethical to convince stupid people to give you their money willingly, by using little more than a few arguments which employ circular logic?

2) I don't know what thing I should try to sell. It should be shiny though. People seem to think that shiny things are inherently more valuable than non-shiny things.


Diamonds are very good things to have around. They are incredibly good conductors of heat, and are quite useful in industry in abrasives and cutting tools. Want a heatsink to overclock the hell out of a processor? Forget about copper, aluminum, or watercooling - use a diamond heatsink.

 

[HannibalX]

"Diamonds... that'll shut her up..."

"Diamonds... she'll practically have to..."

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Diamond threads are forever.

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
doesn't matter, its all an epic scam on gullible women.

Pretty much. Oh, and the more gullible men who originally gave into this crap and got it all started. "Sure honey, I'll get you a chunk of carbon that's not even remotely rare and would be pretty much worthless if not for a monopoly and endless marketing hype. And I'll gladly spend a boatload of money on it too."

And here I sit, idle, knowing that all I have to do is start telling people that something is really valuable. If I say it enough times, maybe people will start believing it.

Problems:
1) Ethics. Ethics are always a roadblock in the path to easy money.
But is it really unethical to convince stupid people to give you their money willingly, by using little more than a few arguments which employ circular logic?

2) I don't know what thing I should try to sell. It should be shiny though. People seem to think that shiny things are inherently more valuable than non-shiny things.


Diamonds are very good things to have around. They are incredibly good conductors of heat, and are quite useful in industry in abrasives and cutting tools. Want a heatsink to overclock the hell out of a processor? Forget about copper, aluminum, or watercooling - use a diamond heatsink.

It might classify as ethics, but I doubt youd be willing to start wars while supplying both sides with weaponary.

 

[HannibalX]

I would.

 

[0roo0roo]

i cant wait for the day when growing large diamonds becomes relatively cheap, and high end pc's use diamond heatsinks...and debeers dies.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Wreckem
It might classify as ethics, but I doubt youd be willing to start wars while supplying both sides with weaponary.

Dammit, but those are the most profitable kinds of deals! I wouldn't be the reason for all the death and destruction. I'd just provide tools to allow for efficient expression of that hatred, at very reasonable prices, like a friendly neighborhood hardware store!

 

[BigToque]

http://www.pricescope.com

 

[randay]

its just friggin carbon!

 

[ballmode]

just buy them for the girls

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: ballmode
just buy them for the girls

I'd hope a relationship has more substance to it than just buying girls shiny rocks.

 

[Delta6Echo]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: Quintox
Diamonds are forever.

There, I explained it.

Diamonds are stupid

lol :laugh:

 

[ElFenix]

buncha damn nefs :|

 

[Jack Ryan]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
buncha damn nefs :|

It is inevitable in diamond threads. Most cant afford them, so they badmouth them. There is a market for people buying ridiculously expensive cars as well. Still gets you from home to the grocery store.

People talk bad about:
1) things they don't know
2) things they can't afford

Diamonds usually fit into both categories.

Anyway, to answer your question... I'd recommend reading http://www.suncoastgemlab.com/diamond_education.asp.

 

[jdobratz]

Round cuts are more expensive because they waste more of the raw diamond than the more square cuts.