Someone explain Interstellar

[thesmokingman]

So I finally watched this movie and I'm confused. I understand the 4th or 5th dimension thing. How time back on earth is 7 years for every hour beyond the wormhole. But the ending. They were on a space station near Saturn? Why does everything look like another dimension? Why did his daughter burn the corn? I just don't get it. Didn't help that the audio for the dialogue was low on my flat panel. I need a sound bar.

The irony is that John Connor already went thru something like that ala predestination paradox.

 

[elitejp]

It was just a stupid movie. No reason to try to understand stupid.

 

[CZroe]

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So I finally watched this movie and I'm confused. I understand the 4th or 5th dimension thing. How time back on earth is 7 years for every hour beyond the wormhole. But the ending. They were on a space station near Saturn? Why does everything look like another dimension? Why did his daughter burn the corn? I just don't get it. Didn't help that the audio for the dialogue was low on my flat panel. I need a sound bar.

It really doesn't sound like you understand even the part you think you understand.

 

[CZroe]

I'd like to know how the robot talked to him in that other dimension.

Because they were both... there... aided by the 5th dimensional beings who were trying to help them understand/navigate.

 

[Anubis]

some of you really need to just turn your brain off and relax. the "issues" with interstellar are no worse then the "issues" with pretty much every scifi movie ever made

 

[CZroe]

So I finally watched this movie and I'm confused. I understand the 4th or 5th dimension thing. How time back on earth is 7 years for every hour beyond the wormhole. But the ending. They were on a space station near Saturn? Why does everything look like another dimension? Why did his daughter burn the corn? I just don't get it. Didn't help that the audio for the dialogue was low on my flat panel. I need a sound bar.

First, the initial time dilation was not simply because they were on the other side of the wormhole, it was their relative speed and distance during the entirety of the trip. You don't have to be going light speed for time to pass at a different rate, as two synchronized atomic clocks can easily prove (put one in an airplane and fly it around the Earth a few times). The one hour = seven years thing was for the scenario where they went down to Miller's Planet orbiting as close as possible to a supermassive spinning black hole. BOTH were on the same side of the worm hole. The one who stayed on the mothership simply did not get as close as the others in the lander.

For the ending the 5th-dimensional beings (evolved humans from far into the future) chose the time and place to return him to because they had mastered time and space. They put him there (and then) to be found by the humans slowly making their way from Earth to the Gargantua system. He had earlier sacrificed himself to save Brandt, who at that point was hopefully executing Plan B on the planet he had not seen yet. They already explained that they did not have the resources for another expedition and required the antigravity data for this one, so Brandt was still there, isolated with no communication. Rather than wait as part of the slow exodus with the rest of humanity, he took a ship and left ahead of the rest so that he could be with Brand.

 

[Jeff7]

Love conquers all. That is all this movie is saying. Nothing more. The timey wimey stuff is just window dressing.

I was actually disappointed in it when they threw in the BS about "love transcends dimensions" blah blah.

Downs:
- MURPH!MURPH!MURPH!MURPH!MURPH!MURPH!MURPH!MURPH!
Shut. Up.

- When McConaughey's not yelling MURPH!³, he's scarcely within the range of human hearing.

- Love transcends....bleeehhh. It's powerful bonding behavior coupled with a big human brain, and it's a heck of an experience, but it's trivially easy to end it or merely manipulate it.

- Of course there has to be a freak-out among the crew, and of course he took apart the robot that would have ratted him out.

Basically man is doomed without intervention, but they got help from their future selves that gives their past selves the solution to avoid being doomed.

But if they're doomed without the intervention then how can they be in the future to, oh I don't know just forget it. :hmm:

Maybe not "doomed to the point of extinction," maybe "doomed to a 99.95% death rate" or something similarly cataclysmic. Humanity rebounds like a persistent infection, and maybe tens of thousands of years from now figures out things like time travel and doing freaky business inside of black holes. Then they figure that a decent time to fiddle with would be prior to that significant catastrophe very long ago, because of reasons.


Alternative: "Wow, are you really humans from the future and not aliens?"

"...uh, yeah, we're humans. Definitely humans. Now please send all of your tender, nutrient-filled human selves through this wormhole we've placed in your star system. Your planet's ability to sustain you is fading away, and it would be madness to think that we, humans that we are, poisoned your planet in order to drive you all into the 'mouth' of this wormhole."



Overall though, I didn't come away from the movie thinking "That sucked," which is usually a good sign.

But I'm also in no hurry to see it again. Really, a lot of it is McConaughey's speaking performance. I don't want to use your voice to explore the full limits of the dynamic range of my speakers, ok?

 

[poofyhairguy]

some of you really need to just turn your brain off and relax. the "issues" with interstellar are no worse then the "issues" with pretty much every scifi movie ever made

It gets so much criticism because there was all this hype about the movie getting the science right. And then it didn't.

 

[clamum]

Trump flies to the North Pole & asks for Santa's endorsement. Story @ 11.

SMH

 

[ultimatebob]

Basically man is doomed without intervention, but they got help from their future selves that gives their past selves the solution to avoid being doomed.

But if they're doomed without the intervention then how can they be in the future to, oh I don't know just forget it. :hmm:

Yeah, but how did our future selves survive the first time without Astroconnahey helping out Murph? They would have died off from starvation, so there would be no advanced future selves to create that weird time portal thingy for him.

 

[Anubis]

it got it right till it went into the black hole

 

[poofyhairguy]

it got it right till it went into the black hole

Nah, I think the concept of an overpopulated and technologically backwards world is impossible. Because:

1. We love new technology more than people when you get down to it. No one protested to Apple when the iPhone 4 killed people.

2. If the world got that bad off people would be killing each other left and right to take advantage of the vacuum of power and the scarcity of resources. The Arab Spring showed us the line between societal stability and chaos is thin.

 

[CZroe]

Nah, I think the concept of an overpopulated and technologically backwards world is impossible. Because:

1. We love new technology more than people when you get down to it. No one protested to Apple when the iPhone 4 killed people.

2. If the world got that bad off people would be killing each other left and right to take advantage of the vacuum of power and the scarcity of resources. The Arab Spring showed us the line between societal stability and chaos is thin.

Despite them being uninterested in space exploration and believing the moon landings to be myth, they weren't "technologically backwards." All the IC engine vehicles had been converted to renewables. A whole farm could be run by a small family thanks to industrial automated drone farm equipment. Large flying drones could stay aloft indefinitely off their own solar power. Their priorities were skewed but it doesn't seem that technology slipped backwards.

 

[John Connor]

Also, skip the sound bar, skip anything branded Bose, and get yourself a proper audio setup :biggrin:

I actually do have 5.1 JBL speakers. But I have vaulted ceilings in the living room and it would be a real bitch to wire them up. I really need to get someone that I can pay to install them.

 

[John Connor]

What I learned is that Matthew McGaagunasdghy is that dirty old man that hangs out at the public library, shoving books off the shelves so that he can sneak a creeper peak at all the ladies.

Actually, LOL what I learned is that Matthew McGaagunasdghy gives a how new meaning to elf on the shelf.

 

[John Connor]

The irony is that John Connor already went thru something like that ala predestination paradox.

Call out/ban/gtfo.

 

[Harrod]

I'm just happy when Matt Damon gets back to the ship in The Martian, that he didn't try to kill anyone. This is all you need to know about Interstellar, Matt Damon shouldn't be trusted.

 

[John Connor]

some of you really need to just turn your brain off and relax. the "issues" with interstellar are no worse then the "issues" with pretty much every scifi movie ever made

I guess The Matrix could be that very movie. I understand the movie in its mathematical, computer sense, but some things just don't add up. HAHAH add up. I mean like when Agent Smith became a person. Perhaps it was his soul? that entered that dude?

 

[poofyhairguy]

Despite them being uninterested in space exploration and believing the moon landings to be myth, they weren't "technologically backwards." .

I think it is clear that they got ahead of us technologically prior to whatever made them stop trying, and in that period they were just coasting otherwise outside of the Plan A Plan B scheme. This quote alone:

if we don't want to repeat of the excess and wastefulness of the 20th Century then we need to teach our kids about this planet, not tales of leaving it.

Humanity will never be that self aware. Not without some giant overlord forcing it on us.

 

[ControlD]

I think it is clear that they got ahead of us technologically prior to whatever made them stop trying, and in that period they were just coasting otherwise outside of the Plan A Plan B scheme. This quote alone:

What got them to stop trying is that a blight on all crops was decimating the world's food supply. I imagine that given the choice between eating and getting shiny new toys to play with, eating will generally win even to the detriment of the long term survival of the human race. The world presented in the beginning of the movie was one in decline.

 

[Anubis]

What got them to stop trying is that a blight on all crops was decimating the world's food supply. I imagine that given the choice between eating and getting shiny new toys to play with, eating will generally win even to the detriment of the long term survival of the human race. The world presented in the beginning of the movie was one in decline.

this, pretty straight foreword, all money/research went to not starting to death because the blight is real"

 

[srp49ers]

Yeah, but how did our future selves survive the first time without Astroconnahey helping out Murph? They would have died off from starvation, so there would be no advanced future selves to create that weird time portal thingy for him.

The advanced future selves were probably descendants from the seeds Dr Brand is able to cultivate. Remember she and Cooper part ways at the end of the movie. Brand goes to Dr Mann's planet, and Cooper continues on to the Black Hole.

 

[foghorn67]

It was a good movie, enjoy it. It was haunting and cerebral.
If you want science, go read a book, attend a lecture, get the hell off your couch.

 

[ControlD]

The advanced future selves were probably descendants from the seeds Dr Brand is able to cultivate. Remember she and Cooper part ways at the end of the movie. Brand goes to Dr Mann's planet, and Cooper continues on to the Black Hole.

Hmm. Interesting. I never made that connection but that could be. It makes sense that the one survivor might have used all of those frozen embryos to populate the planet she landed on. They then became the future of humanity.

I enjoyed the movie but the above point (or me missing it) was my one problem with the whole thing. If presumably the mission failed the first time around, who from humanity lasted long enough to evolve to the point of being able to manipulate time to change the past? And, if humanity ended up doing so well to become so advanced, what was their motivation to change the past in the first place? It seems like humanity ended up in a better place the way events unfolded originally.

I guess it never does any good to overthink time travel stories.

 

[Muse]

it's because of all the potential humanities one of them want doomed but in the future realized that other parallel universes of humanities was old be doomed so they build solutions to get themselves past that bottleneck.

Mostly I despise the time travel card in science fiction, with few exceptions. The Terminator movies are good and Back to the Future worked, but it's so easy to make a bad movie playing that card and I think they did here, disastrously. And I thought the ending was just plain boring, really the ultimate sin in a movie.