Someone finally put those Bible thumpers in their place! Evolutionists+1!

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: TravisT
It is apparent how the judge believes. Am I the only Christian here that is not suprised by this?

"Oh no, the judge ruled against us. He must hate God!!11one!!!"

You said it, I didn't.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: TravisT
It is apparent how the judge believes. Am I the only Christian here that is not suprised by this?

"Oh no, the judge ruled against us. He must hate God!!11one!!!"

You said it, I didn't.

Yes you did, I just paraphrased.

To paraphrase again: THE JUDGE WON, GET OVER IT.

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: TravisT
It is apparent how the judge believes. Am I the only Christian here that is not suprised by this?

"Oh no, the judge ruled against us. He must hate God!!11one!!!"

You said it, I didn't.

Yes you did, I just paraphrased.

To paraphrase again: THE JUDGE WON, GET OVER IT.

That was not even what I was suggesting. Way to read my statement in the wrong manner. Sounds like you are the one that needs to get over it if you ask me. I was actually suggesting that the Judge likely believes in evolution and that I wasn't suprised that a liberal judge would rule in such a way. YOU were the one who suggested I was trying to force a stereotypical label on his spirtuality. Go back to your hole, thanks.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: TravisT
It is apparent how the judge believes. Am I the only Christian here that is not suprised by this?

"Oh no, the judge ruled against us. He must hate God!!11one!!!"

You said it, I didn't.

Yes you did, I just paraphrased.

To paraphrase again: THE JUDGE WON, GET OVER IT.

That was not even what I was suggesting. Way to read my statement in the wrong manner. Sounds like you are the one that needs to get over it if you ask me. I was actually suggesting that the Judge likely believes in evolution and that I wasn't suprised that a liberal judge would rule in such a way. YOU were the one who suggested I was trying to force a stereotypical label on his spirtuality. Go back to your hole, thanks.

Ah, I see. So he ruled against God and therefore must be liberal.

You and your stereotypical labels.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TravisT
I was actually suggesting that the Judge likely believes in evolution and that I wasn't suprised that a liberal judge would rule in such a way.

Are you sure that he's a Liberal and believes in evolution?

 

[40Hands]

Looking at TravisT's sig makes me wonder why anyone is even paying attention to his drivel.

 

[TravisT]

I never once made a comment about spirituality. Unless you guys believe that evolution is a spiritual theory... then maybe it could have been confused as such. If thats the case, you're an idiot and stop while you atleast consider yourself ahead.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Looking at TravisT's sig makes me wonder why anyone is even paying attention to his drivel.

I find him moderately amusing. He's like this angry little Hate Bot programmed to post whenever the words "gay", "abortion", "religion", or "evolution" appear in a thread title.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TravisT
I never once made a comment about spirituality

Never said you did. Sounds like you are the one who is confused.

 

[poopaskoopa]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
This is rediculuous:

U.S. District Judge Clarence Cooper ruled that labeling evolution a "theory" played on the popular definition of the word as a "hunch" and could confuse students.

Evolution is a theory. A very scientific and useful theory, which has a lot of supporting facts like natural selection and mutation, but still very much a theory. If it were a fact, it wouldn't be as flexible as it is. The theory changes and grows based on new evidences. That's how a theory works. The Judge is a moron.

The judge recognized the wording of the sticker as an attempt to undermine evolution in favor of creationism, and that's where he slapped them down. He goes out of his way to explain that in the article.

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TravisT
I never once made a comment about spirituality

Never said you did. Sounds like you are the one who is confused.

I was referring to Fausto's comment.

 

[40Hands]

Guys don't you know that this is how it goes:

Belief in evolution = Liberal = Atheist = hates god/jesus = voted for Kerry = terrorist = going to hell

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: JDub02
evolution is as much a part of religion as creationism.

atheism is a religion and its theory on the origins of the universe is evolution
christianity is a religion and its theory is creation

there is absolutely no (read ZERO) scientific evidence to support evolution. anyone trying to pass it off as fact has an agenda.

I believe in having an open mind about things and I think it should be taught along with the theory of Creation in the classroom.

and for the record ... THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. That is an opinion of a judge. There is a separation of state from church, but not church from state (i.e. the state can not establish an official religion).

/end P&N rant.


edit: and by "evolution", I mean macro, we came from goo type evolution, not micro in which a species will change over time aka survival of the fittest.

Wow, just wow!

Please read a book on evolution before you talk about something you obviously know absolutely nothing about.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TravisT
I never once made a comment about spirituality

Never said you did. Sounds like you are the one who is confused.

I was referring to Fausto's comment.

All then when you said "you guys" we should have known that you just meant Fausto. Got it:roll:

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Looking at TravisT's sig makes me wonder why anyone is even paying attention to his drivel.

You bring forth a good point.
[edit]
And I post slowly, apparently.

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Guys don't you know that this is how it goes:

Belief in evolution = Liberal = Atheist = hates god/jesus = voted for Kerry = terrorist = going to hell

I don't necessarily believe one equals the other, I just happen to think that if you associate with any one of the seven, you're nuts.

 

[JDub02]

Would someone care to explain to me what makes creation any less valid than evolution?

I'm not arguing religious semantics. I'm saying some unnamed higher power creating us as opposed to billions of years of random chance turning mud into people.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: JDub02
Would someone care to explain to me what makes creation any less valid than evolution?

It has no supporting evidence.

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Guys don't you know that this is how it goes:

Belief in evolution = Liberal = Atheist = hates god/jesus = voted for Kerry = terrorist = going to hell

I don't necessarily believe one equals the other, I just happen to think that if you associate with any one of the seven, you're nuts.

That's cool, we all think you're nuts

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Guys don't you know that this is how it goes:

Belief in evolution = Liberal = Atheist = hates god/jesus = voted for Kerry = terrorist = going to hell

I don't necessarily believe one equals the other, I just happen to think that if you associate with any one of the seven, you're nuts.

Well you prove that believing in any of those aren't a prerequisite

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Guys don't you know that this is how it goes:

Belief in evolution = Liberal = Atheist = hates god/jesus = voted for Kerry = terrorist = going to hell

I don't necessarily believe one equals the other, I just happen to think that if you associate with any one of the seven, you're nuts.

Well you prove that believing in any of those aren't a prerequisite

lol, I guess you totally overlooked the sarcasm in that post. Thats why I went with "nuts", rather than "idiot" or "stupid". I felt that was to strong for sarcasm.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: JDub02
Would someone care to explain to me what makes creation any less valid than evolution?

I'm not arguing religious semantics. I'm saying some unnamed higher power creating us as opposed to billions of years of random chance turning mud into people.

That has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Creationism is not a scientific theory. Therefore, it does not belong in a science classroom. The sticker espouses keeping an open mind and exploring other avenues, but I am not aware of any other such theories on the origin of life that are scientifically based.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TravisT

Originally posted by: BroeBo
Guys don't you know that this is how it goes:

Belief in evolution = Liberal = Atheist = hates god/jesus = voted for Kerry = terrorist = going to hell

I don't necessarily believe one equals the other, I just happen to think that if you associate with any one of the seven, you're nuts.

Well you prove that believing in any of those aren't a prerequisite

lol, I guess you totally overlooked the sarcasm in that post. Thats why I went with "nuts", rather than "idiot" or "stupid". I felt that was to strong for sarcasm.

Yeah, still doesn't nullify what I said.

 

[Ulfwald]

These die hard religious zealots need to just sit back and realize that they are not going to use government to force their beliefs on other people's children.

I am a believer in Christ, and God, but that does not meam that I need to force that beliefe on other people at the point of a gun. If someone asks me what I believe, and why, I will share my beliefs and reasons for them. I also realize that the earth is a lot older than these zealots want to lead us to believe. I believe that when the Bible says "Let their be light." It is a metaphor for the big bang theory. Who is to say that 7 or our days is 7 of God's days, 1 of God's days could be 1 million years, and that is why the earth has evolved. I also believe that God created man through evolution, and that the day we became self aware and realized our seperation between us and other species, is when the casting of Eden happened.

The great flood, could that also be another type of sunami? and if it was, how did it really rain for 40 days and 40 nights? One show i watched descriped it as tectonic plate settling. Where there was a lot of underground water deep beneath the crust, and at one time the crust split, and as the plates settled, all the water was forced up and into the atmosphere coming back down as torrential rain, as well as the resulting earth quakes caused tsunamis larger than we have ever seen, thus flooding everything in "known" civilization.

Scientific theory and evidence has neither proved or disproved the existence of God, but it has a lot of evidence backing evolution.

I honestly do believe that there is a higher being who created us, but did so over time. Just the way we create things today, and they become better and more "evolved". Example, the computer, It started out as a machine with very basic and limited functionality, now they have "evolved" because of our intervention.

Please do not take this as me forcing my beliefs on you, just explaining some of my reasoning.

Edit:

If you want to know my take on the whole evolution vs. creation battle:

Schools should teach evolution and tell the students that this is a theory. Leave the teaching of creationism to churches and bible schools.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the school should be run the way the local parents want it to be run, not by a judge

education is a local matter for each community to decide

pi = 3 is so much easier to teach, let's use it!

And let's not forget to get rid of "irrational" and "imaginary" numbers too. Now those are just way too confusing!!

It Takes a Village = dumb

 

[911paramedic]

Fair is fair.