Someone should write this virus

[Martin]

It should spread rapidly and unstoppably through WinXP+ie6 machines and upon execution, it should download and install ie7, thus almost completely killing ie6.

Every web developer will then buy drinks and do favours for the virus writer, while women who are web designers will throw themselves at him.

 

[Markbnj]

While a virus might not be the best way to do it, I agree with the goal . PayPal is getting ready to help by blocking old browsers, and I hope other transaction providers do the same. Of course, there is a layer of users that can't afford newer computers and run a lot of old software. Not sure what to do about them. Maybe what we need is a proxy service that olders browsers can connect through, that provides that safety layer.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Or maybe if Microsoft had just forced IE7 on XP users through XP SP3.

 

[jjones]

I'm curious about this. I still use IE6. Why should I switch to IE7?

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: jjones
I'm curious about this. I still use IE6. Why should I switch to IE7?

Has a lot more security features, like a built in anti-phishing filter, improved popup blocker, and overall better javascript support.

If you are going to be upgrading your web browser, I would just go straight to Firefox

 

[troytime]

i miss ie6

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: jjones
I'm curious about this. I still use IE6. Why should I switch to IE7?

Has a lot more security features, like a built in anti-phishing filter, improved popup blocker, and overall better javascript support.

If you are going to be upgrading your web browser, I would just go straight to Firefox

actually, the only worthwhile feature is tabbed browsing.. its much slower than ie6 though.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: JACKDRUID

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: jjones
I'm curious about this. I still use IE6. Why should I switch to IE7?

Has a lot more security features, like a built in anti-phishing filter, improved popup blocker, and overall better javascript support.

If you are going to be upgrading your web browser, I would just go straight to Firefox

actually, the only worthwhile feature is tabbed browsing.. its much slower than ie6 though.

The tab browsing in IE7 is slow and cumbersome, I'd hardly call it the only worthwhile feature.

 

[aceO07]

Originally posted by: JACKDRUID

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: jjones
I'm curious about this. I still use IE6. Why should I switch to IE7?

Has a lot more security features, like a built in anti-phishing filter, improved popup blocker, and overall better javascript support.

If you are going to be upgrading your web browser, I would just go straight to Firefox

actually, the only worthwhile feature is tabbed browsing.. its much slower than ie6 though.

Adblock and noscript make firefox a no brainer for me. I'm usually confused when I see people using firefox and not use those plugins. The new version of firefox 3 is FAST. It should be final version in a week or so.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

I'd like that virus, please. If for no other reason then to get translucent .png support that isn't a thrice damned hack.

 

[Markbnj]

Yeah, better CSS compliance and PNG transparency are good reasons to want your users on IE7... or Firefox.

 

[jjones]

Hmm, from the sounds of it, there is no benefit to upgrading really. I already have tabbed browsing and pop-up blocker with crazy browser. The host file works well for all the ads and sites I want to block. And I've never had any trouble with javascript as far as I can tell. Running a hardware and software firewall along with A/V and intelligent surfing habits has kept me trouble free and I've never had a virus, trojan or other malware.

I have firefox installed but I only use it to validate web pages I'm working on. Otherwise, I don't find anything better about it than IE, so I just use IE.

I come from the old school of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". IE6 has always performed fine so I've just never bothered with IE7. This is the reason I don't just arbitrarily install every patch that MS puts out. I've had more than one experience where a patch broke something.

Another reason I haven't switched is that I know IE6 is quirky when it comes to css implementation. If I install IE7 I have no way of knowing if it looks good in IE6. Right now I figure if it looks good in IE6 and in Firefox then it probably looks okay in IE7.

 

[wetcat007]

How about it disables IE and downloads firefox or opera and set one of them as default browser.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Or maybe if Microsoft had just forced IE7 on XP users through XP SP3.

or maybe microsoft should upgrade everyone to XP by virus...
this virus should run on windows 3.1, 95, 98, 98se, ME, NT 3.5, NT 4.0, 2K, Vista and all flavors of MAC...

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: jjones
Hmm, from the sounds of it, there is no benefit to upgrading really. I already have tabbed browsing and pop-up blocker with crazy browser. The host file works well for all the ads and sites I want to block. And I've never had any trouble with javascript as far as I can tell. Running a hardware and software firewall along with A/V and intelligent surfing habits has kept me trouble free and I've never had a virus, trojan or other malware.

I have firefox installed but I only use it to validate web pages I'm working on. Otherwise, I don't find anything better about it than IE, so I just use IE.

I come from the old school of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". IE6 has always performed fine so I've just never bothered with IE7. This is the reason I don't just arbitrarily install every patch that MS puts out. I've had more than one experience where a patch broke something.

Another reason I haven't switched is that I know IE6 is quirky when it comes to css implementation. If I install IE7 I have no way of knowing if it looks good in IE6. Right now I figure if it looks good in IE6 and in Firefox then it probably looks okay in IE7.

Well if you aren't security conscious and don't mind giving web developers grief by making sure all their pages are IE6 compliant, then I guess you have nothing to worry about.

PS: Folks with your attitude seriously irritate me. I come from the school of "if something is obviously better, why the hell not upgrade, especially since it's free".

Mind you, I hate IE7, and use IE to ensure all my web pages work in all browsers. Couldn't live without Firefox for development though. Firebug is too handy.

 

[troytime]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: jjones
Hmm, from the sounds of it, there is no benefit to upgrading really. I already have tabbed browsing and pop-up blocker with crazy browser. The host file works well for all the ads and sites I want to block. And I've never had any trouble with javascript as far as I can tell. Running a hardware and software firewall along with A/V and intelligent surfing habits has kept me trouble free and I've never had a virus, trojan or other malware.

I have firefox installed but I only use it to validate web pages I'm working on. Otherwise, I don't find anything better about it than IE, so I just use IE.

I come from the old school of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". IE6 has always performed fine so I've just never bothered with IE7. This is the reason I don't just arbitrarily install every patch that MS puts out. I've had more than one experience where a patch broke something.

Another reason I haven't switched is that I know IE6 is quirky when it comes to css implementation. If I install IE7 I have no way of knowing if it looks good in IE6. Right now I figure if it looks good in IE6 and in Firefox then it probably looks okay in IE7.

Well if you aren't security conscious and don't mind giving web developers grief by making sure all their pages are IE6 compliant, then I guess you have nothing to worry about.

PS: Folks with your attitude seriously irritate me. I come from the school of "if something is obviously better, why the hell not upgrade, especially since it's free".

Mind you, I hate IE7, and use IE to ensure all my web pages work in all browsers. Couldn't live without Firefox for development though. Firebug is too handy.

i'm a developer, and i love firebug

but if i had a choice i'd use IE6 - unfortunately i'm on a mac and firefox is the only thing i can use (cuz safari blows)

i'm not a fan of firefox. I agree that firefox is more secure and does certain things better than IE (any version), but i don't think its as usable nor as fast as ie6

 

[jjones]

BTW, what's available, if anything, to view how pages would render in different browsers? I think the latest version of DW has something but is there anything else out there?

 

[BustaBust]

No Opera?

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: jjones
Hmm, from the sounds of it, there is no benefit to upgrading really. I already have tabbed browsing and pop-up blocker with crazy browser. The host file works well for all the ads and sites I want to block. And I've never had any trouble with javascript as far as I can tell. Running a hardware and software firewall along with A/V and intelligent surfing habits has kept me trouble free and I've never had a virus, trojan or other malware.

I have firefox installed but I only use it to validate web pages I'm working on. Otherwise, I don't find anything better about it than IE, so I just use IE.

I come from the old school of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". IE6 has always performed fine so I've just never bothered with IE7. This is the reason I don't just arbitrarily install every patch that MS puts out. I've had more than one experience where a patch broke something.

Another reason I haven't switched is that I know IE6 is quirky when it comes to css implementation. If I install IE7 I have no way of knowing if it looks good in IE6. Right now I figure if it looks good in IE6 and in Firefox then it probably looks okay in IE7.

Well if you aren't security conscious and don't mind giving web developers grief by making sure all their pages are IE6 compliant, then I guess you have nothing to worry about.

PS: Folks with your attitude seriously irritate me. I come from the school of "if something is obviously better, why the hell not upgrade, especially since it's free".

Mind you, I hate IE7, and use IE to ensure all my web pages work in all browsers. Couldn't live without Firefox for development though. Firebug is too handy.

i'm a developer, and i love firebug

but if i had a choice i'd use IE6 - unfortunately i'm on a mac and firefox is the only thing i can use (cuz safari blows)

i'm not a fan of firefox. I agree that firefox is more secure and does certain things better than IE (any version), but i don't think its as usable nor as fast as ie6

You'll have to define what you consider "usable" and "fast".

Since we all have different perceptions of those words.

What I love most of what you said though. You aren't a fan of firefox because you THINK it's not as usable or as fast as ie6.

 

[Markbnj]

They both have their pluses and minuses. Getting excited over which browser to use these days is a waste of time, imo, unless you have a philosophical axe to grind. Here I use IE, FF, and IceWeasel daily. Also Konqueror, and occasionally Opera. You use what you need.

 

[troytime]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: jjones
Hmm, from the sounds of it, there is no benefit to upgrading really. I already have tabbed browsing and pop-up blocker with crazy browser. The host file works well for all the ads and sites I want to block. And I've never had any trouble with javascript as far as I can tell. Running a hardware and software firewall along with A/V and intelligent surfing habits has kept me trouble free and I've never had a virus, trojan or other malware.

I have firefox installed but I only use it to validate web pages I'm working on. Otherwise, I don't find anything better about it than IE, so I just use IE.

I come from the old school of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". IE6 has always performed fine so I've just never bothered with IE7. This is the reason I don't just arbitrarily install every patch that MS puts out. I've had more than one experience where a patch broke something.

Another reason I haven't switched is that I know IE6 is quirky when it comes to css implementation. If I install IE7 I have no way of knowing if it looks good in IE6. Right now I figure if it looks good in IE6 and in Firefox then it probably looks okay in IE7.

Well if you aren't security conscious and don't mind giving web developers grief by making sure all their pages are IE6 compliant, then I guess you have nothing to worry about.

PS: Folks with your attitude seriously irritate me. I come from the school of "if something is obviously better, why the hell not upgrade, especially since it's free".

Mind you, I hate IE7, and use IE to ensure all my web pages work in all browsers. Couldn't live without Firefox for development though. Firebug is too handy.

i'm a developer, and i love firebug

but if i had a choice i'd use IE6 - unfortunately i'm on a mac and firefox is the only thing i can use (cuz safari blows)

i'm not a fan of firefox. I agree that firefox is more secure and does certain things better than IE (any version), but i don't think its as usable nor as fast as ie6

You'll have to define what you consider "usable" and "fast".

Since we all have different perceptions of those words.

What I love most of what you said though. You aren't a fan of firefox because you THINK it's not as usable or as fast as ie6.

I used the phrase "i think" because its my opinion, which is based of my exact way of using the browser.

IE6 had a couple shortcuts that i really took advantage of (and became dependant upon unfortunately). the big one for me was ctrl+tab, which is now alt+D i believe. it selected the url in the address bar (for copying, or for typing in a new address)
Now tabbed browsing uses ctrl+tab, and i'm a tabbed browsing hater :

as for fast, yes...in my experience it consistently loaded pages faster than firefox. And its menu systems were responsive all the time. Sometimes firefox gets these little microsecond delays which annoys the crap out of me (like on a mac, pretty much everything has that delay)

there are other little quirks of firefox that i didn't like either...i can't remember the exact scenario, but firefox was remembering some form values and really making some development difficult.

I've seen plenty of pages that firefox handles that IE simply brainfarts on.
But i've also seen plenty of pages that firefox renders useless. I know that the developer is at fault though

 

[Cheesetogo]

Yes, and they'll name it "Automatic Updates."

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: troytime
IE6 had a couple shortcuts that i really took advantage of (and became dependant upon unfortunately). the big one for me was ctrl+tab, which is now alt+D i believe. it selected the url in the address bar (for copying, or for typing in a new address)

Too bad they didn't just use ctrl-L like EVERY SINGLE OTHER FRICKIN BROWSER (yes, that one annoys the hell out of me ) But I guess I feel a bit better having learned about alt-D because it's better than nothing.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Martin
It should spread rapidly and unstoppably through WinXP+ie6 machines and upon execution, it should download and install Firefox , thus almost completely killing ie6.

Every web developer will then buy drinks and do favours for the virus writer, while women who are web designers will throw themselves at him.

Fixed !

 

[Gunslinger08]

How about IE8, so it actually complies to standards?