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fastamdman

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More then likely you are not stable. 1.39vcore isn't much for 4.8ghz. I would run LinX to see if you are TRULY stable. P95 is not a good test for stability with SB chips.

Edit: Clear cmos / pull battery for 30mins to get back to your bios.
 
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I tried almost everything suggested so far, some people don't read or don't get that theres no life at all not a single fan or beeps or diagnostic leds on. I'm about to try without CMOS batt with both psu.

I tested psu on friends pc nd it works. New psu CPU and mobo comming in a few hours then I'll find out for sure.

But can anyone answer will a psu with inadequate power cause hardware failure? I don't want to run the same psu if that is what caused it nd I can't imagine what else it was unless it was a faulty MB.
 
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More then likely you are not stable. 1.39vcore isn't much for 4.8ghz. I would run LinX to see if you are TRULY stable. P95 is not a good test for stability with SB chips.

Edit: Clear cmos / pull battery for 30mins to get back to your bios.

It was most definitely stable. 12 hours of prime is sufficient. Didn't have one sign of instability for 15 days. This board will not get into bios, it won't even start not one fan, not even the psu fan on a known working psu. It won't post or anything I don't know why so many people don't read the part that says that.
 
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sweeper2

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I tried almost everything suggested so far, some people don't read or don't get that theres no life at all not a single fan or beeps or diagnostic leds on. I'm about to try without CMOS batt with both psu.

I tested psu on friends pc nd it works. New psu CPU and mobo comming in a few hours then I'll find out for sure.

But can anyone answer will a psu with inadequate power cause hardware failure? I don't want to run the same psu if that is what caused it nd I can't imagine what else it was unless it was a faulty MB.

inadequate power supply can cause problems.. a poor quality yet High watt PSU can cause same problem... A High overclock can stress the cpu / mB .. cause problem..
If your going to play with overclocking, then expect certain things to fail prematurely ..

In this case, It seems a MB problem.. but it's hard to diagnose between if the MB is poor or if the cpu went out, unless you can actually see any damage that might have been done.
 
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inadequate power supply can cause problems.. a poor quality yet High watt PSU can cause same problem... A High overclock can stress the cpu / mB .. cause problem..
If your going to play with overclocking, then expect certain things to fail prematurely ..

In this case, It seems a MB problem.. but it's hard to diagnose between if the MB is poor or if the cpu went out, unless you can actually see any damage that might have been done.

I was not aware 1.39vcore was a high oc. According to people's advice I bought high quality components for each part and have failure when my and budget build with 20$ psu and 60$ mb didn't fail for 8 months under dangerous voltages. I wish I could find out how this happen because I don't think I can return parts again.
 

Kenmitch

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I was not aware 1.39vcore was a high oc. According to people's advice I bought high quality components for each part and have failure when my and budget build with 20$ psu and 60$ mb didn't fail for 8 months under dangerous voltages. I wish I could find out how this happen because I don't think I can return parts again.

Your problem sound more like the MB than anything else. It's possible the MB was of marginal build quality and would have lasted years if run at stock speeds the whole time.

When overclocking a person is pretty much rolling the dice on longevity and stability. Pretty much failure can occure at any time.

Your 2600K seems to be above average for overclock vs vcore. I do agree with others that prime isn't enough to trully call a overclock stable tho. But in your case I don't think the is your chip trully stable plays a part in your situation.

What kinda settings did you change on your MB for your 4.8ghz overclock? Maybe something you changed put some xtra stress on the MB which caused it's premature demise.

Just wondering about what you changed. Some of those guides are pretty crappy and seemed to be focused on forcing an overclock on the K chips. Some of chips don't need the xtreme settings they suggest.

Judging by your 4.8ghz at 1.39v's it doesn't look like your chip needs forced overclocking if it's trully stable. My 2700k will do 4.8ghz in the 1.36-1.37v's range.

Power supply wise. I doubt the power supply caused the issue at all. I do agree with others that maybe you should step up a little higher in the food chain and get a stronger one. Having a marginal power supply for a rig more often causes instability, reboots under load, bsods. As long as your power supply doesn't blow up then it shouldn't cause damage to other components of your rig....As long as said power supply keeps voltages within tolerance of course.

On a side note I did seem to cause some MB damage on my overclocking adventure also. My MB will not shut down currently. It'll power all the way down for about 10-15 seconds then boots back up. I tried everything like you and figure it's gotta be the MB. Most of time this is blamed on Windows settings, bios settings. I'm gonna live with it as sleep works for me 100% everytime. Figure when Ivy Bridge comes out I'll pick up a combo at microcenter and deal with my MB at that time.
 
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Since this thread is getting kind of long , I will ask only one more question. If I put the CPU in the suspected bad mobo to troubleshoot or vice versa could it cause damage ? Thanks for everyone's input
 

Kenmitch

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Since this thread is getting kind of long , I will ask only one more question. If I put the CPU in the suspected bad mobo to troubleshoot or vice versa could it cause damage ? Thanks for everyone's input

If it was me I'd try my current CPU in the new MB. The odds of probability lean more towards the MB than the CPU. I think I'd rather try to keep the above average 2600k if at all possible. The new one could be a average or below average overclocker
 

Avalon

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I'm pretty surprised by the number of people who didn't read and suggested a software or BIOS based solution...guys, it's not turning on.

If there's just a green light but no fans spin and it doesn't turn on, it's either the mobo or most likely, the power supply, especially since you described the system shutting off during gaming, which is where it would be drawing the most wattage.

My best guess is that your PSU was heavily stressed, couldn't handle it, and bit the dust. I'd be willing to bet that your mobo is fine. If you put the CPU in the mobo for troubleshooting and it doesn't turn on still, it shouldn't damage the CPU, especially if the mobo is just plain dead, simply nothing will happen.

I was having similar issues with a slightly lesser system on a 500W PSU, except thankfully nothing died, I just simply had to get a new PSU (Seasonic X650 Gold) to stop my system from shutting off mid-game. All was well. I still have the 500W sitting in the closet for emergency.
 
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Your problem sound more like the MB than anything else. It's possible the MB was of marginal build quality and would have lasted years if run at stock speeds the whole time.

When overclocking a person is pretty much rolling the dice on longevity and stability. Pretty much failure can occure at any time.

Your 2600K seems to be above average for overclock vs vcore. I do agree with others that prime isn't enough to trully call a overclock stable tho. But in your case I don't think the is your chip trully stable plays a part in your situation.

What kinda settings did you change on your MB for your 4.8ghz overclock? Maybe something you changed put some xtra stress on the MB which caused it's premature demise.

Just wondering about what you changed. Some of those guides are pretty crappy and seemed to be focused on forcing an overclock on the K chips. Some of chips don't need the xtreme settings they suggest.

Judging by your 4.8ghz at 1.39v's it doesn't look like your chip needs forced overclocking if it's trully stable. My 2700k will do 4.8ghz in the 1.36-1.37v's range.

Power supply wise. I doubt the power supply caused the issue at all. I do agree with others that maybe you should step up a little higher in the food chain and get a stronger one. Having a marginal power supply for a rig more often causes instability, reboots under load, bsods. As long as your power supply doesn't blow up then it shouldn't cause damage to other components of your rig....As long as said power supply keeps voltages within tolerance of course.

On a side note I did seem to cause some MB damage on my overclocking adventure also. My MB will not shut down currently. It'll power all the way down for about 10-15 seconds then boots back up. I tried everything like you and figure it's gotta be the MB. Most of time this is blamed on Windows settings, bios settings. I'm gonna live with it as sleep works for me 100% everytime. Figure when Ivy Bridge comes out I'll pick up a combo at microcenter and deal with my MB at that time.

I agree that it's mb problem and appreciate feedback on psu. I will find out exactly what failed in a few hours when new parts arrive.

I only changed vcore and turbo multiplier and left all other settings on as I had all and chips before this one I am not familiar with intel technologies
 
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If it was me I'd try my current CPU in the new MB. The odds of probability lean more towards the MB than the CPU. I think I'd rather try to keep the above average 2600k if at all possible. The new one could be a average or below average overclocker

Is it possible that putting the old CPU in the new MB could damage it of the CPU is damaged?
 
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I am actually putting it all together now and I'd rather lee the old CPU of possible because it is a good chip of it still works
 

veri745

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Build with the new motherboard and all of your old components, but use the minimum config possible:

Single stick of ram, no hdd, no optical, no other peripherals, just KB and mouse
 
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Great... The replacement MB is warped the entire PCB is warped. Not flat. Asus is supposed to be a good company? I'm going to install anyway and see what happens.
 
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The bottom left corner of the PCB is up about 1/4 inch if laid on a flat surface, and I can mount it without hearing cracking noises I think it will be okay
 
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New mb gets power fans turn on
Can't get into bios
Old CPU has green mb light and red CPU light
New CPU has green mb light and red dram light
I'm at a loss I'm gong to get fucked on 500$+ or have to wait two weeks fr a functioning computer.. Fuck ASUS seriously.
 

Markbnj

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I think you'll find most people here have a good opinion of Asus products. I've had three of their boards without any issues... which isn't to say you're wrong, just that they aren't a crap company. That said, a significant warp in a multilayer pcb is pretty unusual, and I'm surprised they shipped it.

It's possible for multiple problems to stack and appear to be one big problem. In this case it is beginning to sound like the old CPU is dead, and there is something wrong with the way the ram is installed on the new motherboard. Try just one stick with the new CPU and see what happens. If it doesn't work replace it with the other stick.
 

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After reading all these posts Im thinking its the PSU or MOBO for shure.

I think your video cards are ok. The RAM is ok.

I think something bad happened when you put only 1.39v for that OC. gotta be mobo or PSU.. end of story... gl
 
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Okay it is confirmed. MB and CPU fried. PSU didn't fail, somehow both MB and CPU failed... I don't get it, what's to stop that from happening again?

Now all is fine using new MB and CPU.. New PSU with only one GPU until I can get a bigger PSU just to be safe.

I don't think a low voltage OC would kill a MB and CPU especially since it was stable enough to run prime for 12 hours and pay video games 8 hours a day for 15 days. It would just be unstable and shutoff not destroy anything. I'm guessing it was a fluke or had something to do with inadequate power from PSU but the psu didn't fail. Doesn't make sense this build feels unreliable as hell.
 
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Markbnj

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I don't agree that 1.39v is a low voltage OC. There are quite a few opinions out there that 1.35v is some sort of ceiling. Remember, stock is somewhere under 1.2. Anything above stock has at least some potential to degrade the part. Since every part is different some will be more susceptible, and you probably just got one that couldn't take it.
 
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People say under 1.4 is safe my max temps were 68c highest core.. So I guess the MB failed at that voltage which cause the CPU to fail. The p8p67 pro is made for over clocking so looks like a faulty MB to me. And this ones warped but works fine.... For 180$ shouldn't get two consecutive faulty products that's ridiculous.
 
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