Sometimes the smallest things kill me with Cisco...

[p0lar]

<rant>
<vent>

gtss1(config-dial-peer)#do sh env
Temperature:
Temperature Reading:
Temp at inlet is measured as 23C/73F.
Temp at outlet is measured as 26C/78F.
Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/37F.
Temperature State:
Temperature is in normal state.

Voltage:
Voltage Reading:
MAX6656-1 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
Motherbd 5V is measured as 5171.
CPU Core 1.2V is measured as 1136.
Memory 2.5V is measured as 2464.
MAX6656-2 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
PHY 2.5V is measured as 2601.
HT, Crush FPGA 1.8V is measured as 1786.
PLD 1.5V is measured as 1419.
Voltage State:
Voltage is in 0 state.

Power Supply:
Redundant Power System is not present.
PS Input Voltage status: normal
PS Output Voltage status: normal
PS Fan status: normal
PS Thermal status: normal
PS OverVoltage status: normal

Someone tell me... when you pay thousands of dollars for hardware (and software) and not only does it crash under a relatively moderate load (>2000 concurrent call legs, sans media), but still exhibits very stupid flaws in common logic, what are we supposed to think?

Is it worth filing yet another case with TAC?

This should read:

Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/5F.

</rant>
</vent>
(*sigh*)

 

[xSauronx]

this is all i could think about

 

[Genx87]

Haha I see what they did there. Nice work ACE!

 

[spidey07]

Somebody fails at math.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: p0lar
<rant>
<vent>

gtss1(config-dial-peer)#do sh env
Temperature:
Temperature Reading:
Temp at inlet is measured as 23C/73F.
Temp at outlet is measured as 26C/78F.
Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/37F.
Temperature State:
Temperature is in normal state.

Voltage:
Voltage Reading:
MAX6656-1 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
Motherbd 5V is measured as 5171.
CPU Core 1.2V is measured as 1136.
Memory 2.5V is measured as 2464.
MAX6656-2 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
PHY 2.5V is measured as 2601.
HT, Crush FPGA 1.8V is measured as 1786.
PLD 1.5V is measured as 1419.
Voltage State:
Voltage is in 0 state.

Power Supply:
Redundant Power System is not present.
PS Input Voltage status: normal
PS Output Voltage status: normal
PS Fan status: normal
PS Thermal status: normal
PS OverVoltage status: normal

Someone tell me... when you pay thousands of dollars for hardware (and software) and not only does it crash under a relatively moderate load (>2000 concurrent call legs, sans media), but still exhibits very stupid flaws in common logic, what are we supposed to think?

Is it worth filing yet another case with TAC?

This should read:

Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/5F.

</rant>
</vent>
(*sigh*)

How does 3C = 5F?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Crusty
How does 3C = 5F?

LOL! More math fail!!!!!!!!!!

Delta T = 3C = 5F

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Crusty
How does 3C = 5F?

LOL! More math fail!!!!!!!!!!

Delta T = 3C = 5F

I'm not looking at the rest of the text because I have no idea what it means, I can only assume that it's showing the same values in C/F, but now that you point out it's only showing the delta it makes sense.

 

[p0lar]

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: p0lar
<rant>
<vent>

gtss1(config-dial-peer)#do sh env
Temperature:
Temperature Reading:
Temp at inlet is measured as 23C/73F.
Temp at outlet is measured as 26C/78F.
Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/37F.
Temperature State:
Temperature is in normal state.

Voltage:
Voltage Reading:
MAX6656-1 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
Motherbd 5V is measured as 5171.
CPU Core 1.2V is measured as 1136.
Memory 2.5V is measured as 2464.
MAX6656-2 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
PHY 2.5V is measured as 2601.
HT, Crush FPGA 1.8V is measured as 1786.
PLD 1.5V is measured as 1419.
Voltage State:
Voltage is in 0 state.

Power Supply:
Redundant Power System is not present.
PS Input Voltage status: normal
PS Output Voltage status: normal
PS Fan status: normal
PS Thermal status: normal
PS OverVoltage status: normal

Someone tell me... when you pay thousands of dollars for hardware (and software) and not only does it crash under a relatively moderate load (>2000 concurrent call legs, sans media), but still exhibits very stupid flaws in common logic, what are we supposed to think?

Is it worth filing yet another case with TAC?

This should read:

Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/5F.

</rant>
</vent>
(*sigh*)

How does 3C = 5F?

Do you work for Cisco? It's a delta temperature, not an absolute! (and actually it's 5.4 degrees, but... I'm cool with 5.)

 

[p0lar]

And just for those who are curious what device and IOS revision this is:

gtss1(cfg-translation-profile)#do sh ver | i uptime|IOS|processor
Cisco IOS Software, 5350 Software (C5350-JK9SU2_IVS-M), Version 12.4(22)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
gtss1 uptime is 1 day, 1 hour, 43 minutes
Cisco AS5350XM (BCM) processor (revision 0x21) with 786431K/262144K bytes of memory.

 

[p0lar]

Oh, and this is from an endpoint... 12.3(26)GD IOS.

gtgw1>sh env
Temperature:
Temperature Reading:
Temperature at inlet is measured as 26C/78F.
Temperature at outlet is measured as 31C/87F.
Temperature State:
Temperature is in normal state.
Fans:
Fans temperature delta is measured as 5C.
All fans are running well.
Power Supply:
Redundant Power System is not present.
PS Input Voltage status: normal
PS Output Voltage status: normal
PS Fan status: normal
PS Thermal status: normal
PS OverVoltage status: normal

Device info:

gtgw1>sh ver | i uptime|IOS|processor
IOS (tm) 5350 Software (C5350-JK9S-M), Version 12.3(26), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
gtgw1 uptime is 3 weeks, 1 day, 20 hours, 10 minutes
cisco AS5350 (R7K) processor (revision T) with 131072K/65536K bytes of memory.
Last reset from IOS reload
32768K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write)
8192K bytes of processor board Boot flash (Read/Write)

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: p0lar

Originally posted by: Crusty

Originally posted by: p0lar
<rant>
<vent>

gtss1(config-dial-peer)#do sh env
Temperature:
Temperature Reading:
Temp at inlet is measured as 23C/73F.
Temp at outlet is measured as 26C/78F.
Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/37F.
Temperature State:
Temperature is in normal state.

Voltage:
Voltage Reading:
MAX6656-1 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
Motherbd 5V is measured as 5171.
CPU Core 1.2V is measured as 1136.
Memory 2.5V is measured as 2464.
MAX6656-2 Internal 3.3 Volt is measured as 3243.
PHY 2.5V is measured as 2601.
HT, Crush FPGA 1.8V is measured as 1786.
PLD 1.5V is measured as 1419.
Voltage State:
Voltage is in 0 state.

Power Supply:
Redundant Power System is not present.
PS Input Voltage status: normal
PS Output Voltage status: normal
PS Fan status: normal
PS Thermal status: normal
PS OverVoltage status: normal

Someone tell me... when you pay thousands of dollars for hardware (and software) and not only does it crash under a relatively moderate load (>2000 concurrent call legs, sans media), but still exhibits very stupid flaws in common logic, what are we supposed to think?

Is it worth filing yet another case with TAC?

This should read:

Temp delta of inlet and outlet is measured as 3C/5F.

</rant>
</vent>
(*sigh*)

How does 3C = 5F?

Do you work for Cisco? It's a delta temperature, not an absolute! (and actually it's 5.4 degrees, but... I'm cool with 5.)

No, and I have limited experience with Cisco products. Obviously I understand that it's a delta now that spidey pointed it out. So what's the big deal? It doesn't show the decimal places?

 

[p0lar]

Originally posted by: Crusty
No, and I have limited experience with Cisco products. Obviously I understand that it's a delta now that spidey pointed it out. So what's the big deal? It doesn't show the decimal places?

We replied at the same time, you're going to be just fine.

Anyway, there is no significance to anything beyond an integer measurement when it comes to equipment failure due to temperature. It would probably be just as adequate if they posted 'cold','moderate','balmy','warm','hot','smokin','inferno' as far as I'm concerned. But... that 3C/37F on a delta is a pathetic oversight. Harmless, but pathetic. I'm nit-picking cisco because they've been releasing a lot of bad IOS lately. I can pick out at least 3 errors in the show dial-peer voice commands... oh well.

 

[drebo]

So they accidentally set the output to the conversion from C to F instead of the delta in C and delta in F. Obviously, since it sees the the delta being 3C and 3C=37F it's just a display bug. It probably deals in C as its base unit for temperature, which probably means that the F display is for convinience only.

I doubt that you're going to have an issue because of this.

 

[mcmilljb]

Originally posted by: drebo
So they accidentally set the output to the conversion from C to F instead of the delta in C and delta in F. Obviously, since it sees the the delta being 3C and 3C=37F it's just a display bug. It probably deals in C as its base unit for temperature, which probably means that the F display is for convinience only.

I doubt that you're going to have an issue because of this.

I agree. The F is displayed for old people who don't want to switch to C Any way, I think it would be best to send them an email if you want to help them with their Algebra. It is kind of funny to see though because they partially got it right. If they left off the + 32, it's correct.

(9/5 * Cout + 32) - (9/5 * Cin + 32) = 9/5 * (Cout - Cin) + (32 - 32) : That's how it should work if they just use conversions for display purposes (skipping the 32 - 32 of course).