Song remakes you like better than the originals?

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Mar 11, 2004
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Yeah, I think a lot of people's taste in music gets tied to what they're first exposed to. Compared to the nice, clean Autotuned vocals of today, a lot of yesterday's music sounds like it was recorded in a garage somewhere, but if that's what you grew up listening to, then that what sounds the best because it was your first exposure to it and that ties the emotion of the music into the experience for you. Nothing wrong with that :thumbsup:

My only gripe with those clean tracks is that the live performances often sound like garbage because a lot of artists can't sing very well live, but back in the day when your voice was laid down on the track, that was pretty much it, so you got a fairly 1:1 performance when you went and saw the band live. I still remember seeing Huey Lewis & The News a few years ago and being blown away at how amazingly good they sounded live, they could SING! Not that all modern bands can't, but I've been disappointed on more than one occasion by some live performances.

I totally disagree. Music now does not sound clean, it sounds harsh as hell, and the way autotune is used is not to clean up the vocals its to add extra sharpness to the end which itself is harsh. There's tons of older recordings that sound waaaaaaaaaay better than shit produced today.

And a lot of live performances now feature just as much tuning as the album does. That's even ignoring if they lay the studio over the speakers. Live (with some exceptions) sounds like ass because its just not an optimal audio setup from a listening standpoint, but that's not the point of going to a live performance. Some bands put in the extra it needs to make it sound a lot better, and they deserve praise for that, but live isn't about fidelity. Of course it also depends on the actual ability of the performers (even if they have colds or strained/overworked their vocal chords or just playing sloppy), and there's plenty of no talent assclowns now.

A lot of the reason people lock onto certain music is because its what they listened to during their formative years, its not about how it actually sounds. There's a bunch of music I listened to when I was younger that I can't stand now.

It is absolutely possible to objectively consider sound and music. This is something that's getting really annoying. You can subjectively like different things but you can also objectively consider them. Music and sound is every bit as objective as it is subjective. But by just going "well its just taste" you just limit what you could get. A lot of music now actually could sound better with less work, but because they do shit like ridiculous amounts of dynamic range compression coupled with boosting the mastering level and other things that actually reduce quality, you end up with worse sounding music.

Honestly, I don't know how younger people listen to a lot of the modern pop/rap/rock music that they inject a bunch of really irritating electronic sounds (autotune being a big one). I would think the high frequencies and ringing and shit would bother their ears more. But then I don't think they even realize it. A lot of them listen to music on stuff that makes pretty much everything sound bad so they can't even really discern much difference. Its sad too, because it doesn't take audiosnobbery and audiophile BS, most of the time they could get better sound for equal or less money.
 

Platypus

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I think I pretty much disagree with the entire OP's choices but it's all subjective; whatever resonates with you more is all that matters.

There aren't a lot of covers I can think of that I prefer to the original, but here are a few: I would say I prefer SRV's cover of Hendrix's 'Little Wing' more, but it's kind of a different thing altogether. I like Hendrix's cover of 'All Along The Watchtower' more than Dylan's. I like Jose Gonzalez's cover of 'Heartbeats' by The Knife.
 

esquared

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Here's some older stuff.

Girls Talk- cover by Dave Edmunds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTkhBuNdMgY

Original Elvis Costello:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWWgi57zV2w

If there are any Dave Edmunds fans here's a live version of Crawling through the Wreckage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNSzYmXQ8w

Manfred Mann's covers of Springsteens Blinded by the Light and Spirits of the Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4sbTBNtGQ

Spirits of the night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AGH3nNMG5I

Here's Springsteen's originals
Blinded by the Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iaca30QbOo

Spirits of the Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3quyLpUuhk


Loan Me a Dime -cover by Boz Scaggs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4kRPD9_YKY

Original by Fenton Robinson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO5pcmHepEQ
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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Music now does not sound clean, it sounds harsh as heck, and the way autotune is used is not to clean up the vocals its to add extra sharpness to the end which itself is harsh. There's tons of older recordings that sound waaaaaaaaaay better than shit produced today.

Case in point.
 

SolMiester

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Dec 19, 2004
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It's Springsteen. I'm not even sure ELO ever did it.

Crikey, its is Manfreds version I know..LOL, wonder where I got ELO from, they do sound the same......Never knew Springsteen wrote it though, wow, learn something everyday!
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Tool's version, whether by accident or design, feels right because all elements of the band seem on equal footing and equally visceral.

pretty much. The original version feels so anemic when compared to Tool's. Conveniently enough, to all of your points, it's a live CD too.
 

Pacfanweb

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Jan 2, 2000
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I totally disagree. Music now does not sound clean, it sounds harsh as hell, and the way autotune is used is not to clean up the vocals its to add extra sharpness to the end which itself is harsh. There's tons of older recordings that sound waaaaaaaaaay better than shit produced today.

And a lot of live performances now feature just as much tuning as the album does. That's even ignoring if they lay the studio over the speakers. Live (with some exceptions) sounds like ass because its just not an optimal audio setup from a listening standpoint, but that's not the point of going to a live performance. Some bands put in the extra it needs to make it sound a lot better, and they deserve praise for that, but live isn't about fidelity. Of course it also depends on the actual ability of the performers (even if they have colds or strained/overworked their vocal chords or just playing sloppy), and there's plenty of no talent assclowns now.

A lot of the reason people lock onto certain music is because its what they listened to during their formative years, its not about how it actually sounds. There's a bunch of music I listened to when I was younger that I can't stand now.

It is absolutely possible to objectively consider sound and music. This is something that's getting really annoying. You can subjectively like different things but you can also objectively consider them. Music and sound is every bit as objective as it is subjective. But by just going "well its just taste" you just limit what you could get. A lot of music now actually could sound better with less work, but because they do shit like ridiculous amounts of dynamic range compression coupled with boosting the mastering level and other things that actually reduce quality, you end up with worse sounding music.

Honestly, I don't know how younger people listen to a lot of the modern pop/rap/rock music that they inject a bunch of really irritating electronic sounds (autotune being a big one). I would think the high frequencies and ringing and shit would bother their ears more. But then I don't think they even realize it. A lot of them listen to music on stuff that makes pretty much everything sound bad so they can't even really discern much difference. Its sad too, because it doesn't take audiosnobbery and audiophile BS, most of the time they could get better sound for equal or less money.

Totally agree. Even today's good songs don't "SOUND" as good. That whole deal where they're recorded too loud, it kills the sound.

Plus, the whole Pro Tools/Auto tune thing, the music is TOO tight. There's no slop, no soul, no mistakes. And there's no "holes" in the sound...it's just a huge wall throughout the spectrum, like there just HAS to be some sort of noise/fuzz and no quiet parts.
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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That Breaking Benjamin cover of Who wants to live forever is abysmal.. I wish I could think of a worse word for it.
 

Oyeve

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Always something there to remind me. Naked eyes version a tad better than Sandie shaws.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Now I'm confused. I've always known that as Mazzy Star, or at the very least Hope Sandoval and co doing something unofficial. That sounds the same as my copy, even the great bass slides are present.

I'm intrigued. Time to check out more of the Sundays. Thanks for the tip :^)

Been checking out The Sundays, and I dig them. Kind of reminds me of Frente!

Edit:
Frente! for those who forgot...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdJYrkra0nk
 
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