SONOFAB!TCH! Man arrested after running into burning house to save his dog!! **UPDATE** NOW WITH VIDEO

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: NFS4
VIDEO + PICS

http://cms.firehouse.com/content/article/article.jsp?id=9251§ionId=46

Thanks for the vid link.

 

[Viper GTS]

I would say the video pretty well settles whether he used a barbell or not.

Viper GTS

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
I would say the video pretty well settles whether he used a barbell or not.

Viper GTS

I guess he wasn't thinking as clearly as some people would like to think.

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: MacBaine


You're really clueless, aren't you?

Is that all you can say? That I'm clueless? Why don't you tell me how you really feel?

 

[Marshallj]

*BREAKING NEWS*

This just in- The parties involved are still alive, as is the dog. No matter how much police were embarrased that it took a civilian to do a man's job, everyone is still alive.

An officer on the scene had this to say, "W-w-well he COULD have hurt somebody... he didn't but he COULDA!"

And a firefighter had this to add, "B-b-but we were going to save the dog, he just got lucky and beat us to it, yeah, that's it- that's the ticket!"

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Marshallj
*BREAKING NEWS*

This just in- The parties involved are still alive, as is the dog. No matter how much police were embarrased that it took a civilian to do a man's job, everyone is still alive.

An officer on the scene had this to say, "W-w-well he COULD have hurt somebody... he didn't but he COULDA!"

And a firefighter had this to add, "B-b-but we were going to save the dog, he just got lucky and beat us to it, yeah, that's it- that's the ticket!"

I like how you are trying to belittle these brave men who risk their lives every day.

How about this? "Uhh, I wanted to save my dog... but I'm superman, so I couldn't wait for professionals to do their job... instead I uhhh could have killed them all... I got lucky so I am teh winnar! The firefighters are baby killers... yeah, they wanted my dog to die..."

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

I like how you are trying to belittle these brave men who risk their lives every day.

How about this? "Uhh, I wanted to save my dog... but I'm superman, so I couldn't wait for professionals to do their job... instead I uhhh could have killed them all"

Oh, I'm not belittling the brave men. He was also a brave man.

Just admit it to me...say it... "I'm a coward and I would have fearfully watched as the fire consumed my dog"

You should be thankful that there's people like this guy out there. Just think, if there's a fire one day, I may even consider saving you after I've saved my family and your pets.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: MacBaine

I like how you are trying to belittle these brave men who risk their lives every day.

How about this? "Uhh, I wanted to save my dog... but I'm superman, so I couldn't wait for professionals to do their job... instead I uhhh could have killed them all"

Oh, I'm not belittling the brave men. He was also a brave man.

Just admit it to me...say it... "I'm a coward and I would have fearfully watched as the fire consumed my dog"

You should be thankful that there's people like this guy out there. Just think, if there's a fire one day, I may even consider saving you after I've saved my family and your pets.

I'm thankful that nothing went wrong, despite his blatant disregard for other people's lives. And if there is a fire some day, and you go back in to 'save my family and your pets', and the building explodes when you open the door, killing several people... there will be a thread just like this one talking about 'the idiot who thought he was smarter than the firefighters'.

Just admit it... he made a very stupid decision based on passion and fear, and is lucky that he didn't kill anybody else. In the real world, people can die from these types of things. Maybe when you realize that other people may know more than you about a particular situation, you'll understand how stupid this guy was, albeit lucky.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: MacBaine

I like how you are trying to belittle these brave men who risk their lives every day.

How about this? "Uhh, I wanted to save my dog... but I'm superman, so I couldn't wait for professionals to do their job... instead I uhhh could have killed them all"

Oh, I'm not belittling the brave men. He was also a brave man.

Just admit it to me...say it... "I'm a coward and I would have fearfully watched as the fire consumed my dog"

You should be thankful that there's people like this guy out there. Just think, if there's a fire one day, I may even consider saving you after I've saved my family and your pets.

I'm thankful that nothing went wrong, despite his blatant disregard for other people's lives. And if there is a fire some day, and you go back in to 'save my family and your pets', and the building explodes when you open the door, killing several people... there will be a thread just like this one talking about 'the idiot who thought he was smarter than the firefighters'.

Just admit it... he made a very stupid decision based on passion and fear, and is lucky that he didn't kill anybody else. In the real world, people can die from these types of things. Maybe when you realize that other people may know more than you about a particular situation, you'll understand how stupid this guy was, albeit lucky.

Since you like to throw out "ifs", would you be saying the same thing "if" he went back in to save a human and succeeded?

 

[Finality]

Bleh just strengthens the whole cops suck argument.

Cant even do the right thing anymore.

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: MacBaine

I like how you are trying to belittle these brave men who risk their lives every day.

How about this? "Uhh, I wanted to save my dog... but I'm superman, so I couldn't wait for professionals to do their job... instead I uhhh could have killed them all"

Oh, I'm not belittling the brave men. He was also a brave man.

Just admit it to me...say it... "I'm a coward and I would have fearfully watched as the fire consumed my dog"

You should be thankful that there's people like this guy out there. Just think, if there's a fire one day, I may even consider saving you after I've saved my family and your pets.

I'm thankful that nothing went wrong, despite his blatant disregard for other people's lives. And if there is a fire some day, and you go back in to 'save my family and your pets', and the building explodes when you open the door, killing several people... there will be a thread just like this one talking about 'the idiot who thought he was smarter than the firefighters'.

Just admit it... he made a very stupid decision based on passion and fear, and is lucky that he didn't kill anybody else. In the real world, people can die from these types of things. Maybe when you realize that other people may know more than you about a particular situation, you'll understand how stupid this guy was, albeit lucky.

Since you like to throw out "ifs", would you be saying the same thing "if" he went back in to save a human and succeeded?

In Macbain's defense, Backdraft is very serious. That room was filled with smoke, I would be willing to bet that if the Fire Fighters hadn't been venting that building the whole place would have been a giant fire ball. He is lucky that the building didnt go up when he broke that glass.

Although, I would have done the same thing he did. If it was my dog, I would have jumped into that building for him. My dog is my cloesest friend. I couldn't let him burn if I had the power to stop it.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: Marshallj

Originally posted by: MacBaine

I like how you are trying to belittle these brave men who risk their lives every day.

How about this? "Uhh, I wanted to save my dog... but I'm superman, so I couldn't wait for professionals to do their job... instead I uhhh could have killed them all"

Oh, I'm not belittling the brave men. He was also a brave man.

Just admit it to me...say it... "I'm a coward and I would have fearfully watched as the fire consumed my dog"

You should be thankful that there's people like this guy out there. Just think, if there's a fire one day, I may even consider saving you after I've saved my family and your pets.

I'm thankful that nothing went wrong, despite his blatant disregard for other people's lives. And if there is a fire some day, and you go back in to 'save my family and your pets', and the building explodes when you open the door, killing several people... there will be a thread just like this one talking about 'the idiot who thought he was smarter than the firefighters'.

Just admit it... he made a very stupid decision based on passion and fear, and is lucky that he didn't kill anybody else. In the real world, people can die from these types of things. Maybe when you realize that other people may know more than you about a particular situation, you'll understand how stupid this guy was, albeit lucky.

Since you like to throw out "ifs", would you be saying the same thing "if" he went back in to save a human and succeeded?

IF the firefighters had determined that going in to rescue the person at the time was too dangerous, and IF in their judgement, they would be able to rescue them soon, then I would be saying the exact same thing, because that is how the picture was painted to be in this case.

It is obvious that they wanted to rescue the dog, as is stated by the article... it goes so far as to point out their dedication to saving ALL forms of life by the fact that they performed CPR on BIRDS. This isn't "We didn't want to go in because it is a dog", like some people are trying to make it. The firefighters were attempting to control the blaze before entering. This man's actions could very likely have made the situation tons worse, and he is lucky nobody got killed because of it.

Does him being lucky mean he shouldn't be responsible for his actions? No, that's not how the real world works.

 

[Marshallj]

I'd like to visit the universe you live in someday. But for now, I'll be happy living on Planet Earth.

 

[Marshallj]

You are using way too many "IF" excuses.

IF I stumbled upon a pot of gold I'd be rich.

IF I hit the lottery I'll buy a Ferrari

IF he got caught in a fire, he'd be dead.

Forget about "IF's"

He DIDN'T get hurt. He DID save his dog.

Let's not waste our time wondering about what MIGHT have happened, let's instead think about what DID happen... he saved his dog and everything turned out ok.

 

[Broncho]

Ok, I agree that is stupid to arrest the guy. The real question though is why didn't he grab the dog on his way out in the first place? If he came back to the apartment and found it that way it is more easily understood. Really though, if the dog was that important to him, why did he leave the dog in there to begin with?

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Marshallj
You are using way too many "IF" excuses.

IF I stumbled upon a pot of gold I'd be rich.

IF I hit the lottery I'll buy a Ferrari

IF he got caught in a fire, he'd be dead.

Forget about "IF's"

He DIDN'T get hurt. He DID save his dog.

Let's not waste our time wondering about what MIGHT have happened, let's instead think about what DID happen... he saved his dog and everything turned out ok.

I really don't understand why you can't grasp the concept of 'reckless endangerment'... it isn't that hard to understand.

He recklessly endangered everyone there, why shouldn't he be charged with that? Give me a reason. None of this "Luckily it worked out...", give me a reason why he should not be charged with the crime 'reckless endangerment'.

 

[Miramonti]

bs. I'd get my dog. And no one got hurt so obviously the firemen overestimated the risks. Let the guy be.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: jjsole
bs. I'd get my dog. And no one got hurt so obviously the firemen overestimated the risks. Let the guy be.

Did you read the thread? No? Ok.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjsole bs. I'd get my dog. And no one got hurt so obviously the firemen overestimated the risks. Let the guy be.

Did you read the thread? No? Ok.

And?

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjsole bs. I'd get my dog. And no one got hurt so obviously the firemen overestimated the risks. Let the guy be.

Did you read the thread? No? Ok.

And?

And...... I need to draw you...

 

[Marshallj]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

I really don't understand why you can't grasp the concept of 'reckless endangerment'... it isn't that hard to understand.

He recklessly endangered everyone there, why shouldn't he be charged with that? Give me a reason. None of this "Luckily it worked out...", give me a reason why he should not be charged with the crime 'reckless endangerment'.

I understand the concept of reckless endangerment, but I think that law's implications extend too far.

Here's an example of how that law can be abused:

Everytime you drive your car, you put yourself and others at risk. You increase the number of vehicles on the road and increase the chances of an accident. What if you just felt like going for a joyride on a nice spring day... can they extend the law to say that you're creating potential risk for no benefit? Should joyriding be allowed?

What about mountain climbing? If you get stuck on the mountain and require assistance, an emergency worker must risk their life trying to save you. Should they limit mountain climbing because it presents an unnecessary risk to yourself and others?

What about drinking alcohol? What good comes of it? It's been proven to increase the rate of accidents, why is it allowed? Just for personal enjoyment? What value does that have? How long before they ban it because it's reckless endangerment?

I think "reckless endangerment" laws are a case of government overstepping its bounds.

 

[WoofyJr]

I wonder what if:

Would the fire dept wait thirty mintues for human instead dog???

Will he be arrested for the same thing to save a child????

I DO NOT THINK SO!!!!


He shouldn't be arrested for saving his dog. I can understand that he could put the fire dept in danger if something went wrong in the apt.
BUT he made it out safe without their help....

THe mayor should give him a medal of bravery!!!!

 

[Looney]

I've tried to stay out of this... but i would have risked saving my dog, and i would have welcomed the repercussions if i did. Saving my pets is like saving a family member, and if their life meant i would get a fine or do some time, it would have been worth it for their lives.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjsole bs. I'd get my dog. And no one got hurt so obviously the firemen overestimated the risks. Let the guy be.

Did you read the thread? No? Ok.

And?

And...... I need to draw you...

and...you need to start making sense.


Anyhow, there's broken windows throughout the building and the firemen couldn't even break one more that was well within reach to let the dog out? Crappy. Lock him up, he's a criminal.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjsole bs. I'd get my dog. And no one got hurt so obviously the firemen overestimated the risks. Let the guy be.

Did you read the thread? No? Ok.

And?

And...... I need to draw you...

and...you need to start making sense.


Anyhow, there's broken windows throughout the building and the firemen couldn't even break one more that was well within reach to let the dog out? Crappy. Lock him up, he's a criminal.

You aren't able to make a judgement on the hazards involved, they were.