Sons of Anarchy Season 7 premieres tonight

[holden j caufield]

gemma needs to get hers, she's been the catalyst to almost everything bad that has happened dating back to the beginner and John Teller. Jax like Walter (from Breaking Bad) you rooted for in the beginning but as much as he claims to care for his brothers he's screwed over everyone or put them in really bad spot, and hopefully when they vote mayhem he doesn't ride into the sunset and will go the way of Walter. Just my lowly opinion, I really need to binge watch the first 5 seasons as I've forgotten a lot.

Yes that kid is annoying, Juice you've got to feel for the guy, he's been a good soldier and has been put in many no win situations.

 

[dougp]

Walter? Do you mean Clay?

 

[holden j caufield]

Wallter from Breaking Bad

 

[Gooberlx2]

Walter? Do you mean Clay?

No, he means that, like Walter White, we started out rooting for Jax. But over the seasons he's really revealed himself to be emotional, selfish, ruthless, a poor leader and a chronically poor decision maker...all qualities which get people he cares about hurt. Ultimately he's also kind of stupid and gullible (not Walter-like qualities).

Jax is more a force of nature, driven by circumstances and outside influences, Gemma in particular. Been that way for many seasons.

 

[wgusler]

Please kill gemma..PLEASE! She is Satan with fake boobs.

 

[purbeast0]

That scene where he was protecting Thomas with a hammer a few episodes ago... ugh.

lol ... this was from an earlier post of me in this thread, post #42...

oh, but last night, when abel was throwing his tantrum with the hammer ... that is easily the most painful and worst scene of the show in all 7 seasons. just fucking terribly done, and the kids acting ... holy shit. they should have cut that because it really added nothing, unless they go back to it. i mean it's already obvious that kid is growing up in a terrible environment, no need to have some stupid scene like that.

 

[Riparian]

i like it but there are things i don't like about it. the primary thing i don't like about it is that abel of all people is the one to spill the beans. however, i did catch anarchy afterword last night, and sutters explanation of why he had abel do it was very fitting, that abel is the one person who is clean and pure and gemma cares for the most, and he is the one who do her in.

but the whole abel thing is just painful to watch i think simply because it's a little kid acting who is FUCKING TERRIBLE. it just takes me out of the show every time his raspy voice is speaking with that stupid smirk on his face. yes, i get it's just a little kid, but he's a terrible actor and it's ruining scenes to me, ones that are major contributors to the story.

jax disrespecting unser is fitting though. he was on a rampage for the wrong reasons and let his personal vendetta fuck up so many relationships and killed many people that didn't have to die. that is what his whole spiel was about at the very end, he finally realized this. i mean if he knew gemma did this from the get go, bobby would still be alive, his relationship with marks and the asians would be fine, diosa wouldn't have gotten lit up by the asians, he wouldn't have killed jerry, etc. he also wouldn't have been an asshole to unser. so many people/relationships messed up because of gemma and juices secret.

You can't just hate on one Abel, you've got to hate on both Abels as that character is portrayed by twin brothers.

 

[purbeast0]

You can't just hate on one Abel, you've got to hate on both Abels as that character is portrayed by twin brothers.

lol had no clue. they both suck.

fake ass michelle tanner.

 

[Elixer]

Two weeks until the next episode...and only 2 left.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Wow, that episode was really disappointing. I was expecting fireworks when Jax finally got the truth about Tara and it all just fizzled. I guess there's still time for her to get whacked, but it lost all the momentum. She's probably going to get killed in some anti-climactic way like a traffic accident so that Jax doesn't have to be the one to do it, then Jax will fix everything, take the kids, leave the club and ride off into the sunset.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Wow, that episode was really disappointing. I was expecting fireworks when Jax finally got the truth about Tara and it all just fizzled. I guess there's still time for her to get whacked, but it lost all the momentum. She's probably going to get killed in some anti-climactic way like a traffic accident so that Jax doesn't have to be the one to do it, then Jax will fix everything, take the kids, leave the club and ride off into the sunset.

Ah yes, The Mystery Bus that resolves all relationship issues.

Argument.
The Turn and Walkaway.
Bus Smash.

 

[TwiceOver]

I don't know why, but the scene where the cops are looking to pick up Jax at the ice cream shop and he runs out back and carjacks a guy at gun point just rubbed me wrong. OK. So you've done all this crazy shit and managed to get out of prison one way or another, but the cops want to have a chat and you go ape shit and commit armed robbery right in front of them? It just made no sense, but I guess none of the show really does anyway. I mean it would have been just as easy for one of the guys to say "Here's my keys, I'm out back" and nobody would have thought any different.

Now, Jax wining about his mom, he won't kill her. Sigh. But he'll kill Juice, which I'm not exactly sure why. That's pretty shitty.

 

[purbeast0]

I don't know why, but the scene where the cops are looking to pick up Jax at the ice cream shop and he runs out back and carjacks a guy at gun point just rubbed me wrong. OK. So you've done all this crazy shit and managed to get out of prison one way or another, but the cops want to have a chat and you go ape shit and commit armed robbery right in front of them? It just made no sense, but I guess none of the show really does anyway. I mean it would have been just as easy for one of the guys to say "Here's my keys, I'm out back" and nobody would have thought any different.

Now, Jax wining about his mom, he won't kill her. Sigh. But he'll kill Juice, which I'm not exactly sure why. That's pretty shitty.

they weren't there to chit chat - they were there to arrest him because they put an APB out on him due to him assaulting unser.

i think jax will kill his mom. even nero does too which is why he had that conversation with him.

and you aren't sure why he wants juice dead?

i'm wondering if you have even watched any of this show...

 

[dougp]

they weren't there to chit chat - they were there to arrest him because they put an APB out on him due to him assaulting unser.

i think jax will kill his mom. even nero does too which is why he had that conversation with him.

and you aren't sure why he wants juice dead?

i'm wondering if you have even watched any of this show...

Yeah, seriously. Juice knew he was going to die since Jax found out about the collusion, he was hoping that by telling Jax the truth, he'd either be kicked out or something else besides death.

I'm surprised Jax doesn't tell anyone that Juice killed the sheriff to let the cops have some justice of their own.

 

[TwiceOver]

they weren't there to chit chat - they were there to arrest him because they put an APB out on him due to him assaulting unser.

i think jax will kill his mom. even nero does too which is why he had that conversation with him.

and you aren't sure why he wants juice dead?

i'm wondering if you have even watched any of this show...

He didn't know about the APB, Unser did that out of Jax's hearing. So...

Juice made good with the Club and then went on to tell Jax the Truth and yet he is still going to get killed, I guess for holding the secret.

I'm beginning to think you can't see plot holes the size of your giant ego.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I thought this episode was pretty intense, but I too fear Gemma will meet the end of a random non consequential neighbors' bullet.

As for the APB, Chibs told him they were running his plates, and Jax had a lot of reasons to run even if he didn't know about the APB. The stealing the car thing seemed out of place and over the top though, and the music playing during it was odd.

What I always wonder is why Jax never calls Gemma. Always has the crew do it. Makes zero sense.

 

[purbeast0]

He didn't know about the APB, Unser did that out of Jax's hearing. So...

Juice made good with the Club and then went on to tell Jax the Truth and yet he is still going to get killed, I guess for holding the secret.

I'm beginning to think you can't see plot holes the size of your giant ego.

go rewatch the episode - it's obvious the cops weren't there to chat, they were running the license plates. they wouldn't be doing that if they were there to chat with him, so it's obvious something is up.

the secret that juice held with gemma is basically why every person died this season and why every relationship they have is messed up. bobby would still be alive, diosa would be running just fine, the asians and august would be fine with the club, and even more. the entire season revolves about things happening because he not only kept the secret, but he lied about it as well. and this involves jax's family, which is way bigger than any club issues with juice.

hell, the whole reason juice was "making better with the club" was due to his secret/lies - lynn wouldn't have even been in jail or a target had this whole secret been revealed earlier on.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I ask you this though. Would YOU have wanted to tell Jax his mom killed Tera? Do you think you'd come out believed or even alive? Granted, his reasoning made sense for what it was, but even if none of that had happened, still not sure how you tell him something like that.

 

[purbeast0]

I ask you this though. Would YOU have wanted to tell Jax his mom killed Tera? Do you think you'd come out believed or even alive? Granted, his reasoning made sense for what it was, but even if none of that had happened, still not sure how you tell him something like that.

juice has been a dead man walking for a while now. either way he was doomed. his situation with his involvement in her death was a lose/lose.

 

[Remobz]

I ask you this though. Would YOU have wanted to tell Jax his mom killed Tera? Do you think you'd come out believed or even alive? Granted, his reasoning made sense for what it was, but even if none of that had happened, still not sure how you tell him something like that.

He should of just kept the secret I guess? Now, he is a dead man walking.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Can someone refresh my memory to what happened to him before the Tera killing that pushed him away from the club?

 

[purbeast0]

Can someone refresh my memory to what happened to him before the Tera killing that pushed him away from the club?

jax had him kill one of nero's girls, who also had a son, and juice, while high as a kite, revealed it to nero. i forget the reasoning of why he had juice kill the chick though.

and him doing that murder of that girl was his way "back in" after being caught by the club trying to steal and give cocaine to eli.

 

[TwiceOver]

go rewatch the episode - it's obvious the cops weren't there to chat, they were running the license plates. they wouldn't be doing that if they were there to chat with him, so it's obvious something is up.

the secret that juice held with gemma is basically why every person died this season and why every relationship they have is messed up. bobby would still be alive, diosa would be running just fine, the asians and august would be fine with the club, and even more. the entire season revolves about things happening because he not only kept the secret, but he lied about it as well. and this involves jax's family, which is way bigger than any club issues with juice.

hell, the whole reason juice was "making better with the club" was due to his secret/lies - lynn wouldn't have even been in jail or a target had this whole secret been revealed earlier on.

Cops run license plates all the time. "Holy shit, he's looking at my car, time to commit a major felony to escape!!!"

Again, Juice was making better with the club for PREVIOUS indiscretions, not for knowing what happened to bitchface. So killing the one guy that comes clean to you out of everyone involved AFTER doing all this other dirty work, seems a little excessive.

 

[Booty]

jax had him kill one of nero's girls, who also had a son, and juice, while high as a kite, revealed it to nero. i forget the reasoning of why he had juice kill the chick though.

and him doing that murder of that girl was his way "back in" after being caught by the club trying to steal and give cocaine to eli.

He had Juice kill the mom because she could have linked them to the gun her son used for the school shooting. She was an unreliable junky loose end, and they were trying to avoid the whole RICO thing. He had Juice do it in secret, though, so Nero didn't know he broke his promise to him not to kill her... he "owned" Juice at that point. I believe the rest of the club also thought she just OD'd or whatever.

 

[purbeast0]

Cops run license plates all the time. "Holy shit, he's looking at my car, time to commit a major felony to escape!!!"

Again, Juice was making better with the club for PREVIOUS indiscretions, not for knowing what happened to bitchface. So killing the one guy that comes clean to you out of everyone involved AFTER doing all this other dirty work, seems a little excessive.

i still don't think you get the whole juice thing.