SONY PSP is a piece of crap

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revnja

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If I dropped that much cash, I'd return it over some dead pixels. I work hard for my money. This is a reason why I NEVER buy stuff like this at launch (especially Sony launches, as it tends to be shit).
 

flatblastard

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The topic of this thread reads : "SONY PSP is a piece of crap"

I think this would have been just as appropriate:

"SONY ______(fill in the blank) is a piece of crap"


Or better yet...."SONY is a piece of crap"

 

flatblastard

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Now that just doesn't make any sense at all. Sony doesn't even NEED to be involved in console gaming to be the "#1" in consumer electronics. That is just another small piece of the whole puzzle.
Now, why should I trust you?
 

zip1385

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I would return it also. No way in hell im keeping it with a dead pixel on a screen that small.
 

clickynext

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I would attempt to return it, but probably wouldn't fight much for it if I was refused, since I've come to accept the fact that LCD commonly has dead pixels, and if everyone who had a dead pixel returned their game system/monitor/whatever, there would be a whole lot of crap lying around in warehouses, or just resold, and re-returned.

Having said that, I would not buy a PSP.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

I wasnt aware they offered a 0 dead pixel policy on all LCD's. Hows about a link for proof?

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/1440201&tid=196&tid=152&tid=1

I've just read Nintendo/Dell have 0 dead-pixel policies somewhere. If you really don't believe me Google it. It's just what I've heard...

For Samsung:
I read something on xbitlabs a while ago about it. I think it's only in Korea for now and you had to buy your screen after the start of this year or something like that. STILL that's pretty good for 17" LCDs. I'm not sure if it's on 19" ones yet, maybe, maybe not.


That doesnt cover all LCD's, or cuntried. Read up about it.

You also didnt provide links for Nintendo, or Dell as you claimed they too have a zero dead pixel policy.

In short: Dont talk out of your butt.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: Gurck
I just can't understand how people continue to buy Sony products.

I'm a huge Sony hater, I do own a Wega TV, but that was an open box buy that was too cheap to pass up. I've never owned a PS1 or PS2, and only have very limited play time on either. I had no intention on buying a PSP, my dislike for Sony told me not too. But when I actually got my hands on one, it was just too cool. Wipeout Pure looks amazing.

Yeah it was expensive, yeah I have 1 dead pixel on mine, yeah a lot of people are having way more dead pixels. The launch was far from perfect. But this is a sweet little machine, and with what it does, it's not that expensive all things considered.

I'm about to pay $430 for a cell phone that isn't even a PDA phone, a products cost is all realitive to how much you want it, and how useful it will be for you. I'm glad I bought my PSP, I have 3 games already, and they're all a blast to play.

and to everyone who's saying there are handhelds with "better LCD screens" bullsh!t. Some might have lower dead pixel ratios. But, I've never seen anything as good as the PSP in the price range. At Best Buy I had Spider Man 2 UMD playing next to a 7" portable DVD that had the same DVD on. The portable DVD was close to 300 bucks, and it didn't look at sharp or clear. I don't like Sony (once again) but even I have to admit this thing is impressive.
 

BenSkywalker

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Sony doesn't even NEED to be involved in console gaming to be the "#1" in consumer electronics.

Sony's financials. You are right that gaming doesn't change their status in terms of being number one in consumer electronics- they aren't close to Matsushita one way or the other. Actually, just browse over Sony's financials and you will see they would have collapsed utterly some time ago if it wasn't for their gaming, music and movie divisions raking in incredible amounts of cash. In terms of financials, Sony's electronics division is one of, if not the, poorest in the world.
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

I wasnt aware they offered a 0 dead pixel policy on all LCD's. Hows about a link for proof?

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/1440201&tid=196&tid=152&tid=1

I've just read Nintendo/Dell have 0 dead-pixel policies somewhere. If you really don't believe me Google it. It's just what I've heard...

For Samsung:
I read something on xbitlabs a while ago about it. I think it's only in Korea for now and you had to buy your screen after the start of this year or something like that. STILL that's pretty good for 17" LCDs. I'm not sure if it's on 19" ones yet, maybe, maybe not.


Correct, SAmsung's ZERO pixel policy is only in Korea.

Dell does NOT have a zero dead pixel policy, they just have the "21 day" satsifaction guarantee. Dell will pretty much take ANYTHING back if you are unhappy.

So I guess in turn, it's kinda like the zero pixel policy.
 

VIAN

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Nintendo DS or Gameboy SP have better screen than PSP? Please. Maybe if you're blind... Not to say DS or SP doesn't have decent screen but neither even compares with PSP WS. If you've seen PSP in person there is no way you would even make such ridiculous statement.
It's better because it has no dead pixels.

Also, when correcting someone, make sure you are right. Sony does in fact make "Vega" TV's.
Linky, besides the fact that it is pronounced Vega.

All this talk about dead pixels just postponed my "upgrade" to a LCD by another few years. If having even 1 dead pixel is acceptible quality to the manufacturer, then to me it means the technology is not mature enough to justify forking over the extra money for it. Either that, or they're really getting cheap in the QA department.
Just go to Dell.com and buy from them. They have a bunch of manufacturers on sale and you could return the product within 21 days for any reason at all, even dead pixels.

Currently I have the Clone Wars animated series ripped to my memory card(from DVD) have about four hours worth of music on my mem card, pictures of my kids and RidgeRacer in my UMD drive. The versatility of the machine is a very good reason to own one.

I also don't get a lot of the griping about the price. Look at the cost of an iPod that offers hardly anything in comparison. The PSP is far from a godsend on the gaming front, but for everything else it does it has no equal currently in the portable market(at least in terms of pocketable).
I might get one, but I don't want to get the value pack. Why pay for all that extra stuff if I don't want it. I would rather get different headphones, I would rather spend my money on a 1GB stick, I don't want a UMD full of non-playable demos - WTF is up with that. Cheap bastards. Until the unit is sold by itself, then I'm probably not gonna buy it and the dead pixel thing makes it worse.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

I wasnt aware they offered a 0 dead pixel policy on all LCD's. Hows about a link for proof?

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/1440201&tid=196&tid=152&tid=1

I've just read Nintendo/Dell have 0 dead-pixel policies somewhere. If you really don't believe me Google it. It's just what I've heard...

For Samsung:
I read something on xbitlabs a while ago about it. I think it's only in Korea for now and you had to buy your screen after the start of this year or something like that. STILL that's pretty good for 17" LCDs. I'm not sure if it's on 19" ones yet, maybe, maybe not.


That doesnt cover all LCD's, or cuntried. Read up about it.

You also didnt provide links for Nintendo, or Dell as you claimed they too have a zero dead pixel policy.

In short: Dont talk out of your butt.

so you're blaming me for talking about of my butt when you're too lazy to look it up and prove me wrong? and I already stated Samsung's policy only applied in Korea. and in the FIRST PLACE I never said I was certain. but I am now:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=879113

"Dell has a zero dead pixel policy if you bought it from them. Any dead pixels, you can return it."

(personal experience)
"I've exchanged once already because of two dead pixels. The replacement has none that have turned up so far."

and EVEN if Dell's policy is only for the first 21 days of purchase, that ensures that it was not wear-and-tear damage, and they are still losing money for LCDs with dead pixels coming out of their factory. if it doesn't appear in 21 days then I think that's a perfectly acceptable policy considering the alternatives.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:R2...037383/+nintendo+zero+dead+pixel&hl=en

"It is interesting to note that Nintendo has a zero-tolerance policy on dead pixels and will replace the unit if one developes. This is part of an overall shift in the industry since Samsung also adopts the policy, thanks to improving technology as well as the companies now able/willing to cover the costs. "

still don't believe me?

http://www.cnet.com.au/mobilecomputing/0,39028703,40004163,00.htm

"Other manufacturers boast simple zero-tolerance policies on bad pixels as a way of boosting customer loyalty. Samsung last year began promoting a "no dead pixels" policy on some LCD monitors. And Nintendo has recently garnered praise for a lenient policy regarding replacing defective screens on its new DS handheld game player."

so now it's a proven fact sony is ripping us all off.
 

mooncancook

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Gurck
I just can't understand how people continue to buy Sony products.

I'm a huge Sony hater, I do own a Wega TV, but that was an open box buy that was too cheap to pass up. I've never owned a PS1 or PS2, and only have very limited play time on either. I had no intention on buying a PSP, my dislike for Sony told me not too. But when I actually got my hands on one, it was just too cool. Wipeout Pure looks amazing.

Yeah it was expensive, yeah I have 1 dead pixel on mine, yeah a lot of people are having way more dead pixels. The launch was far from perfect. But this is a sweet little machine, and with what it does, it's not that expensive all things considered.

I'm about to pay $430 for a cell phone that isn't even a PDA phone, a products cost is all realitive to how much you want it, and how useful it will be for you. I'm glad I bought my PSP, I have 3 games already, and they're all a blast to play.

and to everyone who's saying there are handhelds with "better LCD screens" bullsh!t. Some might have lower dead pixel ratios. But, I've never seen anything as good as the PSP in the price range. At Best Buy I had Spider Man 2 UMD playing next to a 7" portable DVD that had the same DVD on. The portable DVD was close to 300 bucks, and it didn't look at sharp or clear. I don't like Sony (once again) but even I have to admit this thing is impressive.


nicely said. I think you would be one of those bashing on the PSP if you have not got your hands on one. There are lots ppl bashing on products just based on their belief without having hands-on experience. What prejudice. I agree that the price of PSP is not bad. My friend paid about the same for a Motorola V3 phone with one yr xingular contract. DS is cheaper but too bad it's too kiddish for me.
 

ponyo

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Feb 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: VIAN

I might get one, but I don't want to get the value pack. Why pay for all that extra stuff if I don't want it. I would rather get different headphones, I would rather spend my money on a 1GB stick, I don't want a UMD full of non-playable demos - WTF is up with that. Cheap bastards. Until the unit is sold by itself, then I'm probably not gonna buy it and the dead pixel thing makes it worse.

Why are even considering getting one when you know your unit will likely have dead pixels? You're the one that made countless threads in the past about how CRT was superior to LCD and that you would never get one. Now you want LCD monitor for your computer and you want to get PSP? We don't want to read another one of your rants about dead pixels and how LCDs suck so please save us the trouble and not buy one.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

I wasnt aware they offered a 0 dead pixel policy on all LCD's. Hows about a link for proof?

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/1440201&tid=196&tid=152&tid=1

I've just read Nintendo/Dell have 0 dead-pixel policies somewhere. If you really don't believe me Google it. It's just what I've heard...

For Samsung:
I read something on xbitlabs a while ago about it. I think it's only in Korea for now and you had to buy your screen after the start of this year or something like that. STILL that's pretty good for 17" LCDs. I'm not sure if it's on 19" ones yet, maybe, maybe not.


That doesnt cover all LCD's, or cuntried. Read up about it.

You also didnt provide links for Nintendo, or Dell as you claimed they too have a zero dead pixel policy.

In short: Dont talk out of your butt.

so you're blaming me for talking about of my butt when you're too lazy to look it up and prove me wrong? and I already stated Samsung's policy only applied in Korea. and in the FIRST PLACE I never said I was certain. but I am now:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=879113

"Dell has a zero dead pixel policy if you bought it from them. Any dead pixels, you can return it."

(personal experience)
"I've exchanged once already because of two dead pixels. The replacement has none that have turned up so far."

and EVEN if Dell's policy is only for the first 21 days of purchase, that ensures that it was not wear-and-tear damage, and they are still losing money for LCDs with dead pixels coming out of their factory. if it doesn't appear in 21 days then I think that's a perfectly acceptable policy considering the alternatives.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:R2...037383/+nintendo+zero+dead+pixel&hl=en

"It is interesting to note that Nintendo has a zero-tolerance policy on dead pixels and will replace the unit if one developes. This is part of an overall shift in the industry since Samsung also adopts the policy, thanks to improving technology as well as the companies now able/willing to cover the costs. "

still don't believe me?

http://www.cnet.com.au/mobilecomputing/0,39028703,40004163,00.htm

"Other manufacturers boast simple zero-tolerance policies on bad pixels as a way of boosting customer loyalty. Samsung last year began promoting a "no dead pixels" policy on some LCD monitors. And Nintendo has recently garnered praise for a lenient policy regarding replacing defective screens on its new DS handheld game player."

so now it's a proven fact sony is ripping us all off.

Once again, you have not given me a link FROM Dell, or Nintendo. Im lazy? You're the one saying Dell, Nintendo, and Samsung all have a zero dead pixel policy, without providing a link.

So, still waiting for it. Should be easy to find. Someone posting on a forum doesnt count, but you already knew that, didnt you?
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: xtknight

so now it's a proven fact sony is ripping us all off.

Once again, you have not given me a link FROM Dell, or Nintendo. Im lazy? You're the one saying Dell, Nintendo, and Samsung all have a zero dead pixel policy, without providing a link.

So, still waiting for it. Should be easy to find. Someone posting on a forum doesnt count, but you already knew that, didnt you?
FACT - Dell offers a ZERO dead pixel policy within their 21 day "refund or exchange" period.

Samsung offers Zero dead pixels on LCDs in Korea.

FACT - SONY offers a replacement for a dead-pixel on their PSP lcds - if the customer is "unhappy" with it.
:shocked:

Where's the Beef?
:roll:
 

Rage187

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FACT - Dell offers a ZERO dead pixel policy within their 21 day "refund or exchange" period.


maybe if you whine and cry enough, but if you call and tell them you have a dead pixel they will say "tough".
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Rage187
FACT - Dell offers a ZERO dead pixel policy within their 21 day "refund or exchange" period.


maybe if you whine and cry enough, but if you call and tell them you have a dead pixel they will say "tough".

You are completely wrong. . . . Dell offers a 21-day "no questions asked" return-&-refund-if-not-satisfied policy(period)
 

doublejbass

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Once again, you have not given me a link FROM Dell, or Nintendo. Im lazy? You're the one saying Dell, Nintendo, and Samsung all have a zero dead pixel policy, without providing a link.

So, still waiting for it. Should be easy to find. Someone posting on a forum doesnt count, but you already knew that, didnt you?

Man, you're a dick. Who knows if all their policies appear on the web? Obviously Dell's is on their website, but as for Nintendo's, I know firsthand from having to exchange a GBASP and a DS that they are very hardcore about it, and I read about Nintendo's policy in articles about LCD screen production shortages affecting PSP and DS on both THG and IGN, both of which are blocked here at work. I have no knowledge if Samsung have such a policy.

Now stop acting like you're the defense attorney for Sony and leave your parents' basement to get a few ding-dongs.

However, as for Dell and Nintendo, zero-tolerance dead pixels is a confirmed fact, go ahead and confirm it for yourself if you're so unsure, I'VE confirmed it.
 

srcstc

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Originally posted by: toekramp
i don't blame the kid, if i paid my hard earned money for something, i want it to be perfect

I don't blame you either. It's your money! If you don't want to spend it on a defective product (and who does?) then you shouldn't!


 

mooncancook

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if you are whining for a single dead pixel why don't you treat yourself the same way. go whine to your mom about all the defects she born you with.

I think sony makes a great product with minor defect != crap. But i think this round sony really sucks at quality control. should not have let LCD with 3 or more dead pixels past. even though it's initial release but they've already released it in asia for a while. I hope the retailers will deal with sony about the returned units with dead pixels and let it learn a lesson.
 

VIAN

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Why are even considering getting one when you know your unit will likely have dead pixels? You're the one that made countless threads in the past about how CRT was superior to LCD and that you would never get one. Now you want LCD monitor for your computer and you want to get PSP? We don't want to read another one of your rants about dead pixels and how LCDs suck so please save us the trouble and not buy one.
You... I said if not for Dell's great return policy, I wouldn't waste my time. Also, LCDs have gotten cheap enough (good ones for about 300 dollars) where I can buy one for experimentation and not be too bummed out if I don't like it. 500 bucks, which it was before is just too much money to play with. I also said, the dead pixels of the PSP make it difficult to buy in the quote you had in your post:

Until the unit is sold by itself, I'm probably (most definitely) not gonna buy it and the dead pixel thing makes it worse.

Edited for easier understanding. Basically saying, not only does Sony charge me money for peripherals that I don't want, but it also comes with lots of defects. Not fun to buy. Also heard about many other problems associated with the PSP such as the square button being retarded and sometimes not working and the UMD holder ejecting automatically or with a slight bump.

maybe if you whine and cry enough, but if you call and tell them you have a dead pixel they will say "tough".
It's true, I called Dell about it and they confirmed it.

if you are whining for a single dead pixel why don't you treat yourself the same way. go whine to your mom about all the defects she born you with.
Defects? We are all born different (defective) from the original design.
 

pcfitness

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Originally posted by: lavaheadache
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Naustica
You exchanged 3 PSPs for one dead pixel? *shakes head*

Seriously. Stop whining, 1 dead pixel is nothing to return over.

-Kevin

Not dead stuck on. I like to see you bite the bullet with a bright green pixel starring you in the face! I should have kept the first one. That was a dead pixel in the corner I was just being fussy, now I keep getting stuck on pixels right in the middle

Ya, I'm with you on the dead pixel bro. These multi billion dollar companies have more than enough of my money to make dam sure every funkin pixel work's and It better or I'll raise holy hell...heh...;-)
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: doublejbass
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Once again, you have not given me a link FROM Dell, or Nintendo. Im lazy? You're the one saying Dell, Nintendo, and Samsung all have a zero dead pixel policy, without providing a link.

So, still waiting for it. Should be easy to find. Someone posting on a forum doesnt count, but you already knew that, didnt you?

Man, you're a dick. Who knows if all their policies appear on the web? Obviously Dell's is on their website, but as for Nintendo's, I know firsthand from having to exchange a GBASP and a DS that they are very hardcore about it, and I read about Nintendo's policy in articles about LCD screen production shortages affecting PSP and DS on both THG and IGN, both of which are blocked here at work. I have no knowledge if Samsung have such a policy.

Now stop acting like you're the defense attorney for Sony and leave your parents' basement to get a few ding-dongs.

However, as for Dell and Nintendo, zero-tolerance dead pixels is a confirmed fact, go ahead and confirm it for yourself if you're so unsure, I'VE confirmed it.


How typical. When someone doesnt have an argument, they resort to name calling, and try to belittle someone else. At least come up with a new one, parents basement? Thats sold old, and over used.

If its a confirmed fact as you claim, they would have a press released. How hard is it to find one? Why do you get upset about someone wanting you to back up what you said? Perhaps because you cant... ?
 
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