SONY PSP is a piece of crap

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: oslama
games do suck. these days its more about the graphics than the gameplay.

thanks to the console emlators, now i can relive the glory years of gaming.

Uh, the PSP has the best launch lineup in recent memory. There are many of them that are very good.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: pkypkypky
dead pixel => PSP = piece of crap ?

Countless posts about dead pixels a LCD screen.

On a 4" LCD screen that you keep no more than 20 inches from your face at all times while using it, 1 dead pixel is unnaceptable.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: pkypkypky
dead pixel => PSP = piece of crap ?

Countless posts about dead pixels a LCD screen.

On a 4" LCD screen that you keep no more than 20 inches from your face at all times while using it, 1 dead pixel is unnaceptable.

absolutely

 

[TantrumusMaximus]

Originally posted by: toekramp
i don't blame the kid, if i paid my hard earned money for something, i want it to be perfect

I agree with the whole statement earlier about the cracked windshield. There are too many policies out there that hurt the consumer. Why are they able to do this? Because IDIOTS like us accept them and take no action. Why should we have to accept a damaged product out of the box? How is it whining if you pay X amount of money for a NEW product and get a damaged one and want what you paid for and are told "Oh sorry sir this product has acceptable damage we can not exchange it."

This is EXACTLY why I won't and never will buy an LCD as long as this is the way consumers are treated regarding dead pixels. What a CROCK. I can not believe that ANYONE here that bought a LCD would not try to exchange it or complain about their dead pixels.

Every LCD screen at Newegg has that no returns unless over 8 dead pixels disclaimer.... what a load of crap. "7" is acceptable I guess.... oh yeah!

Sorry I have a big pet peave with this subject.

 

[doublejbass]

The DS is already successful, and the PSP has a niche for themselves (it's a neat little device, with a lot of consumer-unfriendly flaws, but excellent software support, though the cost keeps it out of the DS/GBA market), but to think that Nintendo's in any danger in the handheld industry is totally foolish. With GB Evo on the horizon, the market should be clearly defined.

 

[Cheesetogo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

I wasnt aware they offered a 0 dead pixel policy on all LCD's. Hows about a link for proof?

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/1440201&tid=196&tid=152&tid=1

I've just read Nintendo/Dell have 0 dead-pixel policies somewhere. If you really don't believe me Google it. It's just what I've heard...

For Samsung:
I read something on xbitlabs a while ago about it. I think it's only in Korea for now and you had to buy your screen after the start of this year or something like that. STILL that's pretty good for 17" LCDs. I'm not sure if it's on 19" ones yet, maybe, maybe not.

That doesnt cover all LCD's, or cuntried. Read up about it.

You also didnt provide links for Nintendo, or Dell as you claimed they too have a zero dead pixel policy.

In short: Dont talk out of your butt.

so you're blaming me for talking about of my butt when you're too lazy to look it up and prove me wrong? and I already stated Samsung's policy only applied in Korea. and in the FIRST PLACE I never said I was certain. but I am now:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=879113

"Dell has a zero dead pixel policy if you bought it from them. Any dead pixels, you can return it."

(personal experience)
"I've exchanged once already because of two dead pixels. The replacement has none that have turned up so far."

and EVEN if Dell's policy is only for the first 21 days of purchase, that ensures that it was not wear-and-tear damage, and they are still losing money for LCDs with dead pixels coming out of their factory. if it doesn't appear in 21 days then I think that's a perfectly acceptable policy considering the alternatives.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:R2...037383/+nintendo+zero+dead+pixel&hl=en

"It is interesting to note that Nintendo has a zero-tolerance policy on dead pixels and will replace the unit if one developes. This is part of an overall shift in the industry since Samsung also adopts the policy, thanks to improving technology as well as the companies now able/willing to cover the costs. "

still don't believe me?

http://www.cnet.com.au/mobilecomputing/0,39028703,40004163,00.htm

"Other manufacturers boast simple zero-tolerance policies on bad pixels as a way of boosting customer loyalty. Samsung last year began promoting a "no dead pixels" policy on some LCD monitors. And Nintendo has recently garnered praise for a lenient policy regarding replacing defective screens on its new DS handheld game player."

so now it's a proven fact sony is ripping us all off.

Once again, you have not given me a link FROM Dell, or Nintendo. Im lazy? You're the one saying Dell, Nintendo, and Samsung all have a zero dead pixel policy, without providing a link.

So, still waiting for it. Should be easy to find. Someone posting on a forum doesnt count, but you already knew that, didnt you?

You are a lazy bum. Find it yourself

 

[kki000]

If you have a concern over dead pixels, make sure u buy from a big box like target or walmart, return as many as you want until you get the one that satisfies you.
As for the ds, it might be a succes from a hw sold up to now, but in measures of games, i bet the psp has sold more software titles than the ds has.
Backwards compatibily is ds' savior and bane. Everyone thinks its great it plays gba games, but not many ppl are buying original titles for this reason.
It also doesnt help that ds has 0 titles you'd want to play. Mario 64 controls are broken, all the touch screen games ive played have been no fun at all.
Im anticipating the fps on the ds, its the only reason i havent sold it.

Sony sucks for their stupid pixel policy and reatarded value pack which adds no value.
Nintendo sucks cuz the ds touchpad is gimmicky and stupud, no games at all worth playing.

Overall sony still wins since the psps is frigging amazing. Get one with a decent screen, play lumines, wipeout, dl some videos to a decent sized mem card. You will be continually amazed with this thing.

Ive played with tech toys a long time and i havent been this impressed with a new product since i got my first cell phone.
Being able to watch a full length movie during your commute, its life changing.

 

[Ackmed]

I didnt make the statement that these companies had a no dead pixel policy. He did, which means he needs to prove it.

Which he cant, because he doesnt know what hes talking about, and they never did.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: sirspotti

I think Sony is buying LCDs with dead pixels to keep costs down. I think this because, just look at your LCD screen. Do you think you can divide it into many PSPs. And tell me how many dead pixel free screens you would have.

Ahh, now that's an interesting theory. You sir, might be on to something

That's pretty much a "no duh" theory. I mean we gotten used to 20" LCD screens with no dead pixels. How hard is it to make a 4" screen with no dead pixels? Of course they're buying all the reject screens from their supplier to save money. The average Sony fan worships Sony so much that Sony can do no wrong and get away with it.

 

[doublejbass]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
I didnt make the statement that these companies had a no dead pixel policy. He did, which means he needs to prove it.

Which he cant, because he doesnt know what hes talking about, and they never did.

No, it doesn't mean he needs to prove it. How about YOU disprove it, dick?

 

[Ackmed]

I didnt make the statement that they had a no dead pixel policy. Do you even know how things work in the real world? In the real world, people have to back up what they say, with proof if asked to supply it.

It would be very easy to find a statement from Dell, Nintendo, etc. if they did in fact have a no dead pixel policy. But that fact is, you wont fine one, because they dont. Making him wrong, he just cant admit it.

Nice 12 year old attitude though.

 

[xtknight]

Nintendo DS's zero dead pixel policy: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/ds/trouble_spot.jsp

Samsung's zero dead pixel policy:
This is all I could find on the topic, and since I can't read Korean it's a little hard to find an official policy on it.

http://www.forbes.com/infoimaging/feeds...siapulse_2004_12_30_ix_9333-0197-.html

Dell's "Total Satisfaction Guarantee":
Since Dell does not characterize the dead pixels as defective, you can return the product within 21 days. So, essentially, you can keep returning it until you get a unit with no dead pixels.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/...icy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010#total

The main one we can compare Sony to is Nintendo, which from what I read will allow returns for any dead pixels whatsoever, whereever within the warranty period (1 year). However, since Sony now offers the zero-dead-pixel policy, my point about Sony ripping us all off is obviously now devoid. There's no point in discussing this any further.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: xtknight
Nintendo DS's zero dead pixel policy: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/ds/trouble_spot.jsp

Samsung's zero dead pixel policy:
This is all I could find on the topic, and since I can't read Korean it's a little hard to find an official policy on it.

http://www.forbes.com/infoimaging/feeds...siapulse_2004_12_30_ix_9333-0197-.html

Dell's "Total Satisfaction Guarantee":
Since Dell does not characterize the dead pixels as defective, you can return the product within 21 days. So, essentially, you can keep returning it until you get a unit with no dead pixels.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/...icy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010#total

The main one we can compare Sony to is Nintendo, which from what I read will allow returns for any dead pixels whatsoever, whereever within the warranty period (1 year). However, since Sony now offers the zero-dead-pixel policy, my point about Sony ripping us all off is obviously now devoid. There's no point in discussing this any further.

What I find funny about some companies claims, is how they shady they are as to what is covered. I had bought some PDA a while back, they claimed it has a zero dead pixel gaurentee. It has a stuck pixel, which they said "was different, and therefore not covered"

my PSP has 1 stuck pixel (white) it's annoying but I don't wanna return it and risk the hastle of having to go threw who knows how many more units to find one without any screen issues.

 

[doublejbass]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
In the real world, people have to back up what they say, with proof if asked to supply it.

So the political and religious spheres follow these rules too? I can't wait to clear a BUNCH of stuff up.

It would be very easy to find a statement from Dell, Nintendo, etc. if they did in fact have a no dead pixel policy. But that fact is, you wont fine one, because they dont.

The funny part about this...look what xtknight "fined."

xtnknight SEZ:

Nintendo DS's zero dead pixel policy: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/ds/trouble_spot.jsp

Samsung's zero dead pixel policy:
This is all I could find on the topic, and since I can't read Korean it's a little hard to find an official policy on it.

http://www.forbes.com/infoimaging/feeds...siapulse_2004_12_30_ix_9333-0197-.html

Dell's "Total Satisfaction Guarantee":
Since Dell does not characterize the dead pixels as defective, you can return the product within 21 days. So, essentially, you can keep returning it until you get a unit with no dead pixels.

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/...icy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~section=010#total

Aw, look who's been just hoisted.

Nice 12 year old attitude though.

Alright, in that case, I'd like proof that my attitude is in fact twelve years old, poopyhead.

 

[mflacy]

Ackmed = PWNED!

 

[Avalon]

Well, I finally picked up my PSP. I'm very pleased to say that, after loading up different colored backgrounds and inspecting my screen carefully, that it is flawless. I picked up a rental copy of Wipeout Pure from Blockbuster and I've been playing around with it. This thing is awesome!

 

[akwizeguy]

I own a DS, and I REGRET buying it. Since its launch, the DS has fewer games out than the PSP 24 launch titles. I mean come on, Wario Ware touched? Yoshi Touch and go? The urbz? Pokemon games coming out in may? Nintendo was slammed by the media, claiming the DS was aimed for kiddies, and Nintendo argued back saying it was for all ages. So far I really do not seeing that, as they pushed Metroid Prime back to August. And the DS was released back in November (Same week as HL2). This is unacceptable, releasing the hardware, with no software support seems like they rushed it, just to get the product out before the competition. I am aware that Nintendo did this for the Gamecube release and the N64 release. I mean all I really bought was a really expensive gameboy SP, cus thats the only titles worth buying right now, except the mario 64. Whats the point? The PSP is dominating the DS right now, its basically like a mini media center, with far more features that can hold me over without games even. Nintendo has its work cut out for them.

 

[Avalon]

It's quite the media center once you pop in a 1GB pro duo stick and get yourself a copy of Wipeout Pure to use to "hack" your way online

I'm actually enjoying the game itself pretty thoroughly. I wish it had more tracks and allowed more customization of your racing ships.

I just picked up a copy of Untold Legends, which looked really cool from the demos. So far, I'm finding the story a bit cheesy/cliche, but the gameplay is pretty darn fun. The one thing I've noticed, though, is how horrible ghosting is in that game. I don't notice it at all in Wipeout, but in UL, the entire screen ghosts like mad when I'm somewhere like catacombs or other dark places. It took a bit of getting used to, but eventually started to feel like part of the game. It's weird, I thought I'd be pretty agitated over something like this, but I guess I realize there is nothing I can do because this is the screen they chose. Ah well.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Hmm...interesting read.

 

[doublejbass]

Originally posted by: akwizeguy
I own a DS, and I REGRET buying it. Since its launch, the DS has fewer games out than the PSP 24 launch titles. I mean come on, Wario Ware touched? Yoshi Touch and go? The urbz? Pokemon games coming out in may? Nintendo was slammed by the media, claiming the DS was aimed for kiddies, and Nintendo argued back saying it was for all ages. So far I really do not seeing that, as they pushed Metroid Prime back to August. And the DS was released back in November (Same week as HL2). This is unacceptable, releasing the hardware, with no software support seems like they rushed it, just to get the product out before the competition. I am aware that Nintendo did this for the Gamecube release and the N64 release. I mean all I really bought was a really expensive gameboy SP, cus thats the only titles worth buying right now, except the mario 64. Whats the point? The PSP is dominating the DS right now, its basically like a mini media center, with far more features that can hold me over without games even. Nintendo has its work cut out for them.

Mario Kart DS is out soon, and since SMK64 was one of the best games of all time, that should be worth something. The initial launch lineup for the DS has been disappointing. Warioware is supposed to rock hard, and of course SMB64 is a can't miss game. It seems like they have a bunch of neat stuff on the horizon, but so far it has been lacking.

However, let's all take a deep breath and remember that the DS is not the PSP's direct comepetitor. Let's also remember that the PSP's media center abilities suck, comparitively. (I wouldn't spend as much as it costs for a 1 GB memstick pro to use to play mp3s with that beast in my pocket.) Let's also remember that the PSP is fragile as hell, gets murdered on torture tests, and has the battery life of a cheap vibrator. At that price point and the current game price point, the PSP is aimed at the hot gadget crowd, i.e., the mes, the yous, and so on. The DS and GBA remain to be a much more attractive option for the kids, which have always been the prime market for nintendo. The DS still supports GBA software, and one could argue that the GBA has the best (not most, best) software selection of any system of all time, definitely the best selection of any system currently.

If I was starting a new player out with a system, and had to select either PSP or DS, without QUESTION, I'd give him the DS, and stock him up with the Marios, Zeldas, Castlevanias, Metroids, and Final Fantasies, just to START, in addition to whatever DS software there is besides Mario 64, Warioware, and Mario Kart 64. For anyone who appreciates true gaming, GBA has been a paradise system. Currently, DS has been a hit in terms of sales, and PSP has actually been slower than expected. And naturally, the powerful and uber-affordable GB Evo is on the horizon, which should be a fine pickup for portable players, and most importantly, KIDS, the heart of the game boy market for all these years, and while the PSP has a fad niche market, and it fuels my adult james bond fetish, GBA, DS, and GB Evo have their market well scouted, and will survive long past this onslaught, just like they've survived every onslaught in the history of portable gaming. This is not a N64 vs. Playstation situation.

 

[Hikari]

Are they going to release a 'standalone' PSP at some point? I don't really see the value in the value pack for me, personally. I'm still on the fence between this and the DS (big trip this summer).

 

[ViN86]

Originally posted by: toekramp
i don't blame the kid, if i paid my hard earned money for something, i want it to be perfect

QFT

 

[kki000]

If I was starting a new player out with a system, and had to select either PSP or DS, without QUESTION, I'd give him the DS, and stock him up with the Marios, Zeldas, Castlevanias, Metroids, and Final Fantasies, just to START, in addition to whatever DS software there is besides Mario 64, Warioware, and Mario Kart 64.

Why not get him a gba sp? Thats all ive been playing on the ds anyway. And you keep talking about mario kart 64 and the gameboy evo like its a reality. Only way to get mkart is an export and gb evo is a long way off.

If yer best excuses for the ds are items you cant purchase right now, welll that speaks for itself.
I like mkart and will buy it, but i fear its gonna be hampered by crappy controls like the rest of the ds games. And if yer gonna talk about things in the future, ever heard of gt4?

I wouldnt recommend a ds to my worst enemy, just stupid to buy one now. Psp is more portable and is a better gaming system on the go. (slimmer, instant standby, better "on the go" controls)

Only reason im keeping mine is cuz i already bought it, and not worth the 5 dollars ebgames will give u on a trade in. (exagerating here... but not by much)

 

[Rage187]

Just wanted to chime in and note that I can easily get 2 full length movies onto a 512mb memory stick. I also got 6 episoes of The shield on there as well.

QB10 for sound is more then enough.

 

[VIAN]

Tis true - The PSP IS slowed down to conserve batter life.

Right now playing a game that is heavy in graphics and UMD access will last you about 3 hours. This is with the machine working at 2/3 it's potential. Just image full power.

Sony gives an ambiguous 1-333MHz CPU speed in all official specification lists, because the system throttles down the CPU speed to conserve power. Software developers tell us that 222MHz is the current magic number for the CPU.

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-11721-1480-4-6-x&body_pagenum=3