SONY PSP is a piece of crap

[AnnoyedGrunt]

My Dad had a Trinitron TV for 15 or 20 years that was great.

I recently bought a Sony VEGA HDTV and it is pretty crappy.

I personally am not impressed with current Sony quality. I think they did a great job in the 80's, built a very reputable name for themselves, and now are peddling junky products based on their old reputation. I personally will only buy Sony as a last resort now.

And, dead pixels are NOT part of LCD technology. Defects are part of EVERY technology, it's just that some MFG's choose to filter out defects before they reach the consumer. There will always be some that slip through the cracks, so the next factor is how companies deal with defects after they've hit the customer. For a screen as small as the PSP's, Sony should be able to filter out all with dead pixels. Since they obviously have failed at that, and have provided poor customer support on this issue, it is purely Sony's fault on this particular product, and not something that can be blamed on "LCD technology".

I personally would not buy any monitor (LCD or CRT) without first opening it in the store and looking at the specific unit I planned on purchasing.

After my experience with the Sony TV, and some Viewsonic CRT Monitors (where I actually opened them in the store and checked them out with the manager before taking one home) I have learned that you should buy at a store that will treat you well.

-D'oh!

 

[VIAN]

The 4.3 WS LCD is the highlight of PSP.

exactly the reason why they shouldn't have cheaped out.

show me better small screen in mass market consumer electronic product

Nintendo DS screen. Gameboy SP screen.

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

Samsung only offers 0-dead pixel policy in Korea and nowhere else.

I recently bought a Sony VEGA HDTV and it is pretty crappy.

It's called a WEGA.

 

[ponyo]

Nintendo DS or Gameboy SP have better screen than PSP? Please. Maybe if you're blind... Not to say DS or SP doesn't have decent screen but neither even compares with PSP WS. If you've seen PSP in person there is no way you would even make such ridiculous statement.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: VIAN

The 4.3 WS LCD is the highlight of PSP.

exactly the reason why they shouldn't have cheaped out.

show me better small screen in mass market consumer electronic product

Nintendo DS screen. Gameboy SP screen.

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

Samsung only offers 0-dead pixel policy in Korea and nowhere else.

I recently bought a Sony VEGA HDTV and it is pretty crappy.

It's called a WEGA.

Its your opinion the DS is better, not fact.

Also, when correcting someone, make sure you are right. Sony does in fact make "Vega" TV's.

 

[EightySix Four]

also, WEGA is pronounced VEGA... hehe

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
I was just using that as an example, play the loading game for RR and you will see extreme ghosting from the 'walls' all over the screen. I think you will find that setting up a blur filter on static objects wasn't too popular during the early 80s.

That's sad. My Sega GameGear and Nomad, having relatively "ancient-tech" LCD screens (but no bad pixels at all!), suffer from relatively bad ghosting on fast-action games as well. I would have expected that the Sony PSP screens would have been more on the order of the quality of the highly-rated TurboExpress active-matrix LCD screens.

 

[Ackmed]

Do you really think thats the same LCD tech?

 

[Steg55]

Reason #1 never to buy a LCD screen for anything.

I would return a PSP straight away for one dead pixel. For that money I want perfection.

Steg

 

[Mari0Br0s]

A friend of mine bought one, and using the cloth included, he scratched the screen. In front of me!! It cost 299.99 CAD and it don't even resist to his own cloth.... ridiculous.....

 

[doublejbass]

I love how personally people are taking this, like Sony is a family member or something. Fanboyism is seriously so disturbingly gay. I have a great Sony WEGA Trinitron tube WS HDTV, it's still the best picture you can get, but seriously, this dead pixel issue is a serious gaffe, and if Sony doesn't warrant it (I've seen reports both ways) then there is no way I'd EVER drop cash on that thing.

 

[msi1337]

we have had many of them returned at my work because of dead pixels

 

[Tiamat]

on a 4.3" screen any problem with subpixels is unacceptable. I would only be fine with a dead subpixel. Whenever the subpixels are stuck on, thats a return.

 

[Munky]

All this talk about dead pixels just postponed my "upgrade" to a LCD by another few years. If having even 1 dead pixel is acceptible quality to the manufacturer, then to me it means the technology is not mature enough to justify forking over the extra money for it. Either that, or they're really getting cheap in the QA department.

Edit: BTW, I'm using a HP 1730 17-in LCD at work, and no dead pixels. Dont know how HP is compared to other LCD's, though.

 

[CraigRT]

I still don't even see the point in owning one of these.

sitting in the backseat of a car for a long trip? maybe.. doing it all the time? yeah sure.

anything else? pointless.

and also pointless to return over a dead pixel, the thought would not even cross my mind to return... couldn't care less.

 

[apoppin]

n/m



:roll:

 

[mooncancook]

Originally posted by: mooncancook
just check my exchanged unit. 0 dead pixel. Great!

After checking it carefully I found 2 dead pixels, one above center and one right on the left edge. Now I have an impression that the chance of getting a defect-free PSP is pretty slim.

i'm considering if i should try my luck and exchange again. The 2 dead pixels are hardly noticeable on any application. they don't bother me but knowing they are there is a lil disappointing, and probably hurt resale value of my unit (tho i don't consider selling it). But to be fair, ppl have different level of sensitivity, like i'm sensitive to flicker but not dead pixels and ghosting, so i don't blame ppl who return it bacause of 1 dead pixel.

i think for $250 ppl expect perfection from the PSP is asking too much. $250 is not a whole lot, for the same price you get an iPod with nothing but a hard-drive. With that said, i think Sony should replace units with 3 or more dead pixels. I think a 0-dead pixel is not realistic. I didn't know TV LCD has 0-dead pixel policy, now i know why LCD TV cost so much more than computer LCD (i don't think a tuner cost much).

If anyone has a unit with 1 or 2 dead pixels and you can't return it, please PM me i'll pay $200 to buy it from you.

Finally I think Sony needs to fix the price of the games. $50 for a handheld game is insane. Drop price by $10!

p.s. does anybody know if the US version can play import games?

p.s. I'm no sony fanboy. I think everything they sell is overpriced (not yet to the degree of Apple). I pick PSP over DS because i think DS is too 1-demensional.

 

[BenSkywalker]

I still don't even see the point in owning one of these.

Currently I have the Clone Wars animated series ripped to my memory card(from DVD) have about four hours worth of music on my mem card, pictures of my kids and RidgeRacer in my UMD drive. The versatility of the machine is a very good reason to own one.

I also don't get a lot of the griping about the price. Look at the cost of an iPod that offers hardly anything in comparison. The PSP is far from a godsend on the gaming front, but for everything else it does it has no equal currently in the portable market(at least in terms of pocketable).

Finally I think Sony needs to fix the price of the games. $50 for a handheld game is insane. Drop price by $10!

Depends on the game, RR is $39.99(along with several others) at EB.

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Out of my 2780720 pixels from my 2 Dell LCD monitors, none are dead or stuck. Also all of the screens on my various Gameboys and 2 DS's are perfect.

I do not see how even a small (25%) amount of Sony's PSPs should have any defects.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
I still don't even see the point in owning one of these.

sitting in the backseat of a car for a long trip? maybe.. doing it all the time? yeah sure.

anything else? pointless.

and also pointless to return over a dead pixel, the thought would not even cross my mind to return... couldn't care less.

Portable Porn. It's the killer app.

Porn industry should release UMD format movies. Playboy and others should have paid downloadable pics and images for PSP and content for it. Nothing makes money and sells like sex.

 

[Riddleman]

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: CraigRT
I still don't even see the point in owning one of these.

sitting in the backseat of a car for a long trip? maybe.. doing it all the time? yeah sure.

anything else? pointless.

and also pointless to return over a dead pixel, the thought would not even cross my mind to return... couldn't care less.

Portable Porn. It's the killer app.

Porn industry should release UMD format movies. Playboy and others should have paid downloadable pics and images for PSP and content for it. Nothing makes money and sells like sex.

Wait, your suppose to pay for porn?

 

[Koyanisquatsi]

Sony's response to the dead pixel issue.

http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?catid=1&id=2836

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Koyanisquatsi
Sony's response to the dead pixel issue.

http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?catid=1&id=2836

The Sony representative suggested that PSP owners who encounter the pixel issue try the device "for a week or two" to see if it continues to bother them. "If you find the spots are interfering with game play/video viewing during this period, we will support the various elements of (the PSP) warranty," the representative said.

Each PSP comes with a one-year limited warranty, which is on page 125 of the PSP manual. If a PSP is "determined to be defective" by SCEA, the company will see to the "repair or replacement of this product with a new or refurbished product at SCEA's option." According to a technical-support associate contacted by GameSpot, PSP owners who encounter a persistent and aggravating dead-pixel issue should contact SCEA's customer service line at 1-800-345-7669 for instructions on how to exchange their unit after a week or two of use. "We will work with you," he assured. The associate said the process would work much like exchanging PlayStation 2s that suffer from the dreaded "Disc Read Error" problem: Gamers will mail their PSPs in to SCEA and receive units with new screens. The associate was unsure if customers would receive an all-new unit or their old unit with a new LCD screen.

Seems reasonable.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Koyanisquatsi
Sony's response to the dead pixel issue.

http://www.winbeta.org/comments.php?catid=1&id=2836

The Sony representative suggested that PSP owners who encounter the pixel issue try the device "for a week or two" to see if it continues to bother them. "If you find the spots are interfering with game play/video viewing during this period, we will support the various elements of (the PSP) warranty," the representative said.

Each PSP comes with a one-year limited warranty, which is on page 125 of the PSP manual. If a PSP is "determined to be defective" by SCEA, the company will see to the "repair or replacement of this product with a new or refurbished product at SCEA's option." According to a technical-support associate contacted by GameSpot, PSP owners who encounter a persistent and aggravating dead-pixel issue should contact SCEA's customer service line at 1-800-345-7669 for instructions on how to exchange their unit after a week or two of use. "We will work with you," he assured. The associate said the process would work much like exchanging PlayStation 2s that suffer from the dreaded "Disc Read Error" problem: Gamers will mail their PSPs in to SCEA and receive units with new screens. The associate was unsure if customers would receive an all-new unit or their old unit with a new LCD screen.

Seems reasonable.

I agree

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

I wasnt aware they offered a 0 dead pixel policy on all LCD's. Hows about a link for proof?

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/01/1440201&tid=196&tid=152&tid=1

I've just read Nintendo/Dell have 0 dead-pixel policies somewhere. If you really don't believe me Google it. It's just what I've heard...

For Samsung:
I read something on xbitlabs a while ago about it. I think it's only in Korea for now and you had to buy your screen after the start of this year or something like that. STILL that's pretty good for 17" LCDs. I'm not sure if it's on 19" ones yet, maybe, maybe not.

 

[xtknight]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: Naustica

Originally posted by: xtknight
"dead pixels is an inherent problems to lcds"

so how come nintendo,samsung,dell offer 0-dead pixel policies?

yeah samsung is probably offering sony discounts for dead pixel lcds. samsung is on top of lcd technology and I doubt dead pixels would be THAT common on their screens. the screens sony uses probably have dreadful response time (like 40ms.) too. it's definitely not a demonstration of recent lcd technology. not ALL lcds are like this people, so don't be misled.

everything in my house thats made by sony sucks and i'm never buying anything from them again. a sony vcr burnt up, a sony CRT was screwed up, sony dvd drive died, and i've had no sony products that haven't broken.

so many people think sony is on top of things when the fact is that they are horrible in comparison to other brands.

It sounds like you should have stopped buying Sony products long time ago. Just to offer counter experience, I'll tell you mine. I own 3 Sony TVs. One is around 15 years old Trinitron still going strong that I use in my bedroom. Also own Sony VCR that's probably like 10 years old. No problem. I also own Sony CRT monitor, 2 digicams, 2 cam recorders, countless Walkmans, original launch PS1, PS2, and now PSP. All are working fine and are excellent. (knock on wood)

Sony QA and technology isn't what it was a decade ago but their products are still excellent but overpriced. They're no longer the leader in this digital age due to their holding on to "superior" old tech like Trinitron too long but their engineering is still quite good. Sony today is clash of culture between their old engineering group that defined Sony of old and today's content business of media. Sony now makes huge chunk of profit from their movies, music, and games division.

You do realize Sony is one of the co-inventors of the DVD media technology along with Philips, Matshusita, and Toshiba and gets cut of every DVD player and disc sold. Better not buy any DVDs or you're supporting Sony.

EDIT: Also if you think PSP LCD screen is poor and not demonstration of LCD technology, show me better small screen in mass market consumer electronic product. Which you can't because it doesn't exist. You can say all the bad things you want about Sony but you have to give them props for intergrating the slickest and the best looking small LCD screen on a portable device ever. The 4.3 WS LCD is the highlight of PSP.

Sony tv's are great I admit. PS2 definately has its short comings. PSP WOULD be great if the displays they used on the darn thing were of decent quality. Maybe the quality control department is on vacation during psp launch.

yeah I agree.