el etro
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Not sure how many of the original batch of 360s actually survived to the end of the 8 years...
With the frankenstein the first 360 projects had, maybe all of them are with 3RL now.
Not sure how many of the original batch of 360s actually survived to the end of the 8 years...
Not sure how many of the original batch of 360s actually survived to the end of the 8 years...
I agree for those reasons, not because cooling 120-140W in a box the size of a PS4 is inherently hard.
Clockspeed being low is most likely because the chips are large (high chance for defects) and there is nothing that can be done with defective chips. They very likely run the chips at a lower frequency as otherwise they would have to throw out a larger number of them.
The ps4 actually does not use all its shaders, it should have 1280 shaders, aka 20 compute units just like the 7870, but 2 of those compute units are disabled due to yields leaving 1152 actual shaders.
Source http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/11/21/sony-ps4-apu/1
More people aren't PC gamers because of a number of factors :
#2 - Price. If you don't know how to build your own system, the pre-builts ARE indisputably more expensive than a current console for similar results.
The design made it 8 years... In spirit at least!
I've found that new Core i3 pre-builts can be found for bargain prices when on sale (usually $300 to $350 for a SFF version). I think the full size desktops go for a little more, but with the addition of a 750 GTX or 750 GTX Ti its pretty much a simple out of the box upgrade:
"300 watt PSU" (Most full size pre-builts already come with this....or something very close to it like a 280 watt PSU.)
"NO 6 pin power connector"
P.S. Not sure why requirements of "400 watts PSU or greater" are commonly seen for AMD R7 and HD7750 video cards (example, this R7 240 DDR3--> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150699 (That has to be a discouraging to anyone wanting to do a simple video card upgrade, and I wonder why this is being done.)
I see the manufacturers are doing the same thing with the 750Ti though, recommending a 400 watt power supply, while the nVidia site clearly states 300 watts.
Exactly. I have said this before, I see the 750Ti as a great upgrade for a prebuilt, giving 7790 to 7850 level performance without having to upgrade the psu. Granted you could already do that with a 7750, but this makes 1080p gaming at decent settings viable for most every title, while 7750 was kind of marginal.
I see the manufacturers are doing the same thing with the 750Ti though, recommending a 400 watt power supply, while the nVidia site clearly states 300 watts.
I also saw one highly overclocked version with a 6 pin connector. I dont quite understand this. Does the manufacturer add this, or is it built in from nVidia and just not used for most cards?
I think the console hardware is about the best compromise they could come up with.
Amd's big core apus use too much power, while an Intel solution would have required a discrete card.
The only problem I have with the consoles is that they were very over hyped during the development phase. Realistically, they are low/mid range hardware at a good price that give midrange performance because of less overhead than a PC. Note: I an talking about ps4. Xbone missed the mark, IMO performance wise.