Sopranos

[RU482]

Anyone else notice in the closing sequence, after Carmella walks in, talking about how Meadow will be late...she has a doctors appointment.......To get her birth control changed
And Tony barely nods about it.

 

[SoulAssassin]

Exclusive interview with David Chase: http://blog.silive.com/advance...interview_with_so.html

Some highlights:
Here's Chase on some other points about the finale and the season:

-- After all the speculation Agent Harris might turn Tony, instead we saw Harris had turned, passing along info on Phil's whereabouts and cheering, "We're going to win this thing!" when learning of Phil's demise.

"This is based on an actual case of an FBI agent who got a little bit too partisan and excited during the Colombo wars of the '70s," Chase says of the story of Lindley DeVecchio, who supplied Harris' line.

-- Speaking of Harris, Chase had no problem with never revealing what -- if anything -- terror suspects Muhammed and Ahmed were up to.

"This, to me, feels very real," he says. "For the majority of these suspects, it's very hard for anybody to know what these people are doing. I don't even think Harris might know where they are. That was sort of the point of it: who knows if they are terrorists or if they're innocent pistachio salesmen? That's the fear that we are living with now."

Also, the apocryphal story -- repeated by me, unfortunately -- that Fox, when "The Sopranos" was in development there, wanted Chase to have Tony help the FBI catch terrorists, wasn't true.

"What I said was, if I had done it at Fox, Tony would have been a gangster by day and helping the FBI by night, but we weren't there long enough for anyone to make that suggestion."

-- I spent the last couple of weeks wrapping my brain around a theory supplied by reader Sam Lorber (and his daughter, Emily) that the nine episodes of this season were each supposed to represent one of the nine circles of Hell from Dante's "The Divine Comedy." Told of the theory, Chase laughed and said, "No."

-- Since Butchie was introduced as a guy who was pushing Phil to take out Tony, why did he turn on Phil and negotiate peace with Tony?

"I think Butch was an intelligent guy, he began to see that there was no need for it, that Phil's feelings were all caught up in what was esentially a convoluted personal grudge."

-- Not from Chase, but I feel the need to debunk the e-mail that's making the rounds about all the Holsten's patrons being characters from earlier in the series. The actor playing Member's Only guy had never been on the show, Tony killed at least one, if not both, of his carjackers, and there are about 17 other things wrong with this popular but incorrect theory.

 

[Josh]

Just like all the characters Tony bribes; for the right amount of money all the characters/producers/& Chase can just as well be "bought" to do a movie.

 

[Balt]

-- Theory No. 1 (and the one I prefer): Chase is using the final scene to place the viewer into Tony's mindset. This is how he sees the world: every open door, every person walking past him could be coming to kill him, or arrest him or otherwise harm him or his family. This is his life, even though the paranoia's rarely justified. We end without knowing what Tony's looking at because he never knows what's coming next.

That was my thinking as well.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.npr.org/templates/s...y.php?storyId=10936209

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
The HBO site crashed today and people are calling to cancel in droves!

IN DROVES?!?!? HOLY SNIKEYS!!!!

 

[chuckywang]

we see the end of a legendary TV character, from one of the greatest TV shows ever, accompanied by ... Journey?!"

 

[Bumrush99]

The FBI was probably playing both side of the fence, if they gave Phil to Tony, who is to say that they are not capable of giving Phil's crew Tony? Or giving up Tony to people that have a grudge against his crew? Look at the signs in the earlier episodes where Carmela is reading an anti-Bush book and AJ rants about the government... In this police state, is it that far of a reach to think that the FBI played the two families against each other to eliminate the need for costly trials and prosecutions that may wind up embarrassing them?

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Josh
Paolo Colandrea, a 47-year-old owner of a pizza joint in Penndel, Pa., played the mysterious man wearing a Member's Only jacket sitting at the bar. He was shown going to the bathroom -- a way station of assassination to fans of "The Godfather."

When a relative of Colandrea's picked up the phone at his pizza shop, he exclaimed: "You're trying to get in touch with him? Everyone's trying to get in touch with him!"

But if Colandrea's character was there to kill Tony Soprano, the actor who played him isn't saying.

"I do have an idea, but I cannot really talk," Colandrea said Monday. "I have papers signed that I can't make any comments on that."

Colandrea, who was born in Naples, auditioned for the role after a casting agent stopped for a bite at his shop. He claims to know definitely his character's intent and what happens following the episode's conclusion, but won't divulge it. (A bit of trivia: Colandrea's character wears a Member's Only jacket; the first episode of the final season was titled "Member's Only.")

http://www.calendarlive.com/tv...ry?coll=cl-tv-features

He was on a Philly Sports Radio station this morning and wouldn't explain anything about the last scene, boy was it frustrating to listen to.

 

[dwell]

I'm over it. If anything definitive happened it would have been talked about for a couple of days. This particular ending will be the topic of discussion for years to come. I would have appreciated some closure but what are you going to do? As long as the franchise is not milked with a big budget film I am ok with the "write your own ending" way Chase chose to end it.

 

[jdini76]

To the people who want 'closer', Just say you wanted Tony to die. Thats the only thing that would have made you satisfied. What other Closer could there be. We know an indictment is Imminent. No need to make the ending about him getting arrested.

And the reason why I think people are canceling HBO is because The Sopranos series is over. not because of the ending IMO. I know of alot of people that had HBO soley becasue of The Sopranos.

 

[dwell]

dp

 

[dwell]

tp

 

[dwell]

And the reason why I think people are canceling HBO is because The Sopranos series is over. not because of the ending IMO. I know of alot of people that had HBO soley becasue of The Sopranos.

But, what about John From Cincinnati?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Tony died. There was a scene from an earlier episode that was replayed in the episode where Tony says that when you die he thinks everything goes silent, and then everything just goes black.

After the guy goes to the bathroom, at one point you see the diner door beginning to open, but you don't hear the bell you hear when everyone else walked in, then the screen goes black.


Tony got whacked.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Chris
Nikki Leotardo rumor debunked:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-...-06092007-1360360.html

Colandrea, 47, describes his role as simply ?mystery man,? a guy who walks into a diner and locks eyes ominously with Tony, who's sitting at a table with wife, Carmela, and son, A.J. Colandrea sits down at the counter, stares at Tony again, gets up to go the bathroom, and ...

that article if from before the finale aired. do you really think they're going to reveal major plot points before it aired???

 

[SoulAssassin]

Originally posted by: Chris

And the reason why I think people are canceling HBO is because The Sopranos series is over. not because of the ending IMO. I know of alot of people that had HBO soley becasue of The Sopranos.

But, what about John From Cincinnati?

What is that show even about? I planned on watching it but was too pissed off.

 

[jdini76]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Tony died. There was a scene from an earlier episode that was replayed in the episode where Tony says that when you die he thinks everything goes silent, and then everything just goes black.

After the guy goes to the bathroom, at one point you see the diner door beginning to open, but you don't hear the bell you hear when everyone else walked in, then the screen goes black.


Tony got whacked.

So many people got whacked through out the series, why all of a sudden would we see their POV.


I don't think Tony got whacked, I think we as viewers got whacked.
Hense us seeing the "everything goes black".

 

[Linux23]

I think Aliens came down and wiped out the diner, ala War of the World style.


What? With this piss poor ending, David Chase left us to our own devices about how the show truly ended. Brilliant. Absolutely Brilliant.

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Tony died. There was a scene from an earlier episode that was replayed in the episode where Tony says that when you die he thinks everything goes silent, and then everything just goes black.

After the guy goes to the bathroom, at one point you see the diner door beginning to open, but you don't hear the bell you hear when everyone else walked in, then the screen goes black.


Tony got whacked.

Excellent theory. I think I'm going to cling to that one since Tony really did deserve to die.

 

[Kur]

Never watched the series but I caught the re-run of the final show, what a crappy way to end the series. Even if there was a movie coming out that's one hell of a way to lose your fan base.

 

[ultimatebob]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19236576

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: Icepick

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Tony died. There was a scene from an earlier episode that was replayed in the episode where Tony says that when you die he thinks everything goes silent, and then everything just goes black.

After the guy goes to the bathroom, at one point you see the diner door beginning to open, but you don't hear the bell you hear when everyone else walked in, then the screen goes black.


Tony got whacked.

Excellent theory. I think I'm going to cling to that one since Tony really did deserve to die.

Sorry, but, you do actually hear the bell when Meadow walks in. Just watched it again.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Chris
Nikki Leotardo rumor debunked:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-...-06092007-1360360.html

Colandrea, 47, describes his role as simply ?mystery man,? a guy who walks into a diner and locks eyes ominously with Tony, who's sitting at a table with wife, Carmela, and son, A.J. Colandrea sits down at the counter, stares at Tony again, gets up to go the bathroom, and ...

that article if from before the finale aired. do you really think they're going to reveal major plot points before it aired???

"The ?Members Only? guy was played by the owner of a real-life pizza parlor, Paolo Colandrea. Schaffer denied reports that Colandrea had appeared earlier in the series as the nephew of Tony?s New York gang rival, or that there ever was such a character. He also dismissed reports that Chase had filmed more than one ending to the finale."

 

[cubby1223]

Likely Tony's not dead. Just watched the episode little bit ago.

When he entered the diner first before the rest of his family, some of the suspects were already there. Who knew he was going there to eat? No one.

And what about their theory that everything just goes black when you die. It's a theory, maybe things don't just go black. Ambiguity there.

I'd say the ending just meant that even though he eliminated the main threat earlier, everyone everywhere is always a potential assassin and he's never going to get any rest again, the problem never ends.

Of course, I didn't watch much of Seasons 4, 5, & 6...

I laugh at the bathroom gun theory. Sure it's a nice Godfather reference, and I'm sure that's exactly why it was included... *but*, there is no reason for anyone to plant a gun in that diner. It's not like there was anyone frisking people as they come in to eat. Nothing more than a red herring.