Sound Of Freedom

dank69

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Child exploitation shouldn't be political, but Republicans don't want you focusing on big corporations that use illegal child labor, and evangelicals (also Republicans) don't want you focusing on how 95% of child sexual abuse happens in a religious setting. So they tell you that Democrats are the human traffickers and Trans folks are the groomers and the absolute dumbest humans among us lap it up with zero critical thought.
 

Perknose

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It looks well worth seeing. Jmho.
 

sportage

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Well unfortunately I agreed to go see this film this Monday with my QAnon niece and my QAnon sister. They still think they're going to convert me.
From what I've read on the movie it is not that political and avoids the usual Q conspiracy theories. If that is true my niece will be very disappointed. I know she expects the film to accuse Biden and the Hollywood elite of child trafficking and pedophilia, and for the film to fully support all of her Q conspiracies. The irritating part, if the movie fails to promote those Q conspiracies then I'm sure my niece will add in her two cents worth after the viewing. Adding her addendum to the movie where the movie failed to satisfy her Q expectations.
So yeah, I'll give it a shot. But like as was said above...
Republicans don't want you focusing on big corporations that use illegal child labor, and evangelicals child sexual abuse.
Nor does my Q niece. Its always Biden, it must be Biden, and Hollywood.
 

Amused

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When the makers, main character and stars of the film go on Steve Bannon's shit show and spread Qanon bullshit (which is this decade's version of satanic panic) , that's a hard pass.

No thank you. I'm old enough to remember the last satanic panic.

Does trafficking exist? Yes.
But the ridiculous conspiracy theories of Qanon do more to distract from the real culprits than help.

A little background. During the satanic panic of the 80s and 90s my nieces were molested while the local police and rest of the nation was fixated on fictional satanic ritual abuse and bullshit recovered memory therapy.
 

sportage

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Interesting. Both my Q nieces were sexually abused by their father as young teens. This is why I believe they are Q because for them reality and trust was destroyed during their childhood. If you can't trust the people you are told to trust nor the principals you were taught to trust in then you can not trust anything. Thus... the invention of Q. Seriously, that explains it.
 

allisolm

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I know she expects the film to accuse Biden and the Hollywood elite of child trafficking and pedophilia, and for the film to fully support all of her Q conspiracies.

The film may not support Q conspiracies but it looks like the star does.

"...the film’s star, Caviezel, has openly embraced the extreme movement" (QAnon), "suggesting at media events that a shadowy international cabal is kidnapping children to consume their organs."

I'm sure they're part of Pizzagate.

 
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Vic

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Anyone willing to summarize what OP is on about? Not clicking some rando link.

It's hard to find much on this outside of far-right media but an HHS "whistleblower" supported by Project Veritas is claiming that unaccompanied children migrants into the US are actually victims of a complicated human trafficking scheme.
Now unfortunately, I do not doubt that some of this is occurring, although probably not on the scale being sensationalized and I would doubt that there is any direct govt involvement (besides incompetence).
But certainly it is likely that "sponsors" are encouraging poor parents in Central America to sell their children up north and that they are trafficked to America with these "sponsors" acting as family members already in the US.
The solution to this IMO should be better vetting of sponsors and stricter enforcement of child labor and human trafficking laws.
The far-right solution I expect though is going to be more cries to close the border to migrants.
 
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Perknose

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It's hard to find much on this outside of far-right media but an HHS "whistleblower" supported by Project Veritas is claiming that unaccompanied children migrants into the US are actually victims of a complicated human trafficking scheme.
Now unfortunately, I do not doubt that some of this is occurring, although probably not on the scale being sensationalized and I would doubt that there is any direct govt involvement (besides incompetence).
But certainly it is likely that "sponsors" are encouraging poor parents in Central America to sell their children up north and that they are trafficked to America with these "sponsors" acting as family members already in the US.
The solution to this IMO should be better vetting of sponsors and stricter enforcement of child labor and human trafficking laws.
The far-right solution I expect though is going to be more cries to close the border to migrants.
Absent first hand info, this sounds about right. I scored two free tickets and am going Monday night. I'll report back. I hope it's "cleaner" and "truer" than just some right wing BS, because child trafficking is an abomination.
 

MtnMan

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Don't fucking talk to me about Freedom in this country, it is fucking disappearing every day.

Use the wrong pronoun - catch a felony charge

HOA's, don't get me started. Non-government entities that can fuck with you however they want, fine you, come onto your property and rip out gardens, foreclose on your home and sell it auction

Your wife, mother, daughter, etc. are losing control of their reproductive system - women's lives at risk.

Freedoms in this country are a fucking lie.
 

Amused

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Don't fucking talk to me about Freedom in this country, it is fucking disappearing every day.

Use the wrong pronoun - catch a felony charge

HOA's, don't get me started. Non-government entities that can fuck with you however they want, fine you, come onto your property and rip out gardens, foreclose on your home and sell it auction

Your wife, mother, daughter, etc. are losing control of their reproductive system - women's lives at risk.

Freedoms in this country are a fucking lie.

Even the right wing National Review is calling bullshit on the claims that the hate crime law in Michigan criminalizes improper pronouns.

Stop rotting your brain in right-wing echo chambers.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...-that-could-criminalize-using-wrong-pronouns/

Show me where in the bill simply misgendering a person is a felony...

I'll wait but I won't hold my breath. The bill CLEALY states violence, bodily injury, destruction of property intimidation, threats and terrorizing people on the basis of

Color/Race
Sex
Sexual orientation
Gender identity
Religion
Age
Mental or physical disability
Ethnicity
National Origin
Association or affiliation with an individual or group of
individuals in whole or in part based on a characteristic described
under these subdivisions

Are a felony hate crime.

Why aren't the wingnut rags saying mis-aging someone or mistaking their religion is a felony?

Oh, right, because they're full of shit.


You fucking wingnuts lie like it's the fucking Olympics.

HOAs are a CHOICE. You AGREE to the HOA when you buy your property. Don't want an HOA? Don't buy a property with an HOA requirement.

As for reproductive choice, you're correct. The religious right is attempting to create a theocracy in the US. Vote anything but Republican AND stop reading the Daily (Bullshit) Caller.
 
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Exterous

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Even the right wing National Review is calling bullshit on the claims that the hate crime law in Michigan criminalizes improper pronouns.

Not to mention the republicans who voted for it.

HOAs are a CHOICE. You AGREE to the HOA when you buy your property. Don't want an HOA? Don't buy a property with an HOA requirement.

Unfortunately it's rapidly not becoming much of a choice. In the early 2000s less than half of new homes were in a HOA. Now more than 70% of new homes are in a HOA and it keeps going up every year. And 82% of homes sold in 2021 were in an HOA. If you need to buy a home in an up and coming area within commuting distance of work with good schools (because you can't afford the older established area closest to work with good schools) chances are it's a HOA or you gotta find a town farther away and probably with worse schools. Sure exceptions exist but 70+% of new homes is crazy high
 

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brycejones

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Don't fucking talk to me about Freedom in this country, it is fucking disappearing every day.

Use the wrong pronoun - catch a felony charge

HOA's, don't get me started. Non-government entities that can fuck with you however they want, fine you, come onto your property and rip out gardens, foreclose on your home and sell it auction

Your wife, mother, daughter, etc. are losing control of their reproductive system - women's lives at risk.

Freedoms in this country are a fucking lie.
Quoting the daily caller makes you dumb ass. It’s an absolute shit show of lies.
 
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pmv

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Unfortunately it's rapidly not becoming much of a choice. In the early 2000s less than half of new homes were in a HOA. Now more than 70% of new homes are in a HOA and it keeps going up every year. And 82% of homes sold in 2021 were in an HOA. If you need to buy a home in an up and coming area within commuting distance of work with good schools (because you can't afford the older established area closest to work with good schools) chances are it's a HOA or you gotta find a town farther away and probably with worse schools. Sure exceptions exist but 70+% of new homes is crazy high

Can't say I know anything about HOAs, but it does strike me as being a very similar issue to the freehold/leasehold system we have here (that is a slightly-ridiculous hangover from feudalism). Seems like it leads to some of the same problems, and likewise it's a limited "choice" because it's hard to find any property that isn't affected by it.
 

Ornery

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First of all, thanks for the quick input. Secondly, it's become obvious to me, I'm NOT up to speed on the latest political ruckus. I felt pretty certain stopping the trafficking of kids would be an issue all parties could get behind. When I saw this movie was controversial, I wondered WTF? I figured this would be the perfect forum to straighten it out for me. Um, now I have more research to do than I bargained for! Thanks again, though.
 

Amused

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So the right-wing propaganda outlets are shouting that this movie is beating Indiana Jones.

Yeah, no. Indiana Jones has more than double the ticket sales.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny $97,522,331
Sound of Freedom $40,207,249
 

sandorski

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So the right-wing propaganda outlets are shouting that this movie is beating Indiana Jones.

Yeah, no. Indiana Jones has more than double the ticket sales.
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny $97,522,331
Sound of Freedom $40,207,249
It did on its' Debut, but the next day and since it has been behind. They certainly like bringing it up though.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Don't fucking talk to me about Freedom in this country, it is fucking disappearing every day.

Use the wrong pronoun - catch a felony charge

HOA's, don't get me started. Non-government entities that can fuck with you however they want, fine you, come onto your property and rip out gardens, foreclose on your home and sell it auction

Your wife, mother, daughter, etc. are losing control of their reproductive system - women's lives at risk.

Freedoms in this country are a fucking lie.
The HOA thing is all about the CC&R's. Some really do stink, some actually do work.
 

UNCjigga

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So this is basically a modern take on “the Jews are eating children”??

We really haven’t progressed as much as I thought we did these last thousand years.
 
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Iron Woode

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Child exploitation shouldn't be political, but Republicans don't want you focusing on big corporations that use illegal child labor, and evangelicals (also Republicans) don't want you focusing on how 95% of child sexual abuse happens in a religious setting. So they tell you that Democrats are the human traffickers and Trans folks are the groomers and the absolute dumbest humans among us lap it up with zero critical thought.
considering that some of those morans showed up at a D.C. Pizza shop, with weapons drawn, demanding the release of trafficed children from a non-existent basement, it certainly doesn't surprise me.
 
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