South Africa’s decline is the worst of nations not at war

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Jhhnn

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Do you have to go there to know if it's good or bad?
I have no idea either way, though it seems like they were out of water a few months back, that's never a good thing. As far as the rest goes, they'll either get their act together or the nation will collapse, that almost never ends well.
Do you have to go there to know if it's good or bad?
I have no idea either way, though it seems like they were out of water a few months back, that's never a good thing. As far as the rest goes, they'll either get their act together or the nation will collapse, that almost never ends well.

Please. Felix asserted one right wing trope after another, beginning with the notion that White Afrikaners have it worse than Blacks which is obviously a lie.
 

Amused

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Do you have to go there to know if it's good or bad?
I have no idea either way, though it seems like they were out of water a few months back, that's never a good thing. As far as the rest goes, they'll either get their act together or the nation will collapse, that almost never ends well.

That vs seeing videos on Youtube?

Take a guess which is more credible?

Yes, South Africa has its troubles. The problem is, there is a LOT of white supremacist propaganda mixed with factual information coming out of South Africa and EVERY damn White supremacist org is putting out South Africa propaganda.

South Africa is a bit of a mess because they have had single party control for too long. The ANC is massively corrupt. And in a last ditch effort as they are losing power the ANC is siding with the radical EFF and touting land appropriation and nationalization of land in an attempt at their own version of the GOP Southern Strategy. To pit blacks against white and poaint the opposition as white controlled.

They are losing. The ANC won't last much more than 2 or 3 more election cycles as the primary power. The DA is poised to take control of the eastern Cape. They already have control of the west.

We'll see. Yes, SA has their problems, but a LOT of the FUD you hear is white supremacist fear mongering.
 
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Greenman

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That vs seeing videos on Youtube?

Take a guess which is more credible?

Yes, South Africa has its troubles. The problem is, there is a LOT of white supremacist propaganda mixed with factual information coming out of South Africa and EVERY damn White supremacist org is putting out South Africa propaganda.

South Africa is a bit of a mess because they have had single party control for too long. The ANC is massively corrupt. And in a last ditch effort as they are losing power the ANC is siding with the radical EFF and touting land appropriation and nationalization of land in an attempt at their own version of the GOP Southern Strategy. To pit blacks against white and poaint the opposition as white controlled.

They are losing. The ANC won't last much more than 2 or 3 more election cycles as the primary power. The DA is poised to take control of the eastern Cape. They already have control of the west.

We'll see. Yes, SA has their problems, but a LOT of the FUD you hear is white supremacist fear mongering.
I'll take your word for it, but why would white supremacists here give two hoots about what happens in SA? It seems to me they'ed be happy to see the place go down in flames.
 

Moonbeam

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I'll take your word for it, but why would white supremacists here give two hoots about what happens in SA? It seems to me they'ed be happy to see the place go down in flames.
I agree they are happy about it, but happier still to blame black people as the reason it's happening. The same thing happened to white people in Russia, they fucked up their chance at democracy because they had no idea how to handle freedom. It isn't skin color that is the issue, but the state of evolution of the average person. The average person in the Soviet Union and in South Africa was abysmally unsophisticated, and kept in that state intentionally for exploitation by really evil people. We are what we eat and what we eat is what we are fed or feed ourselves.
 

Greenman

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Mind you, in his case I believe that it's deliberate.
That could be the case. Or it could be that I don't care.
If someone wants to put forth the effort of hating people half way around the world they're welcome to it. Personally, I think they have bigger problems than what some clown in Alabama thinks of them.
 
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That could be the case. Or it could be that I don't care.
If someone wants to put forth the effort of hating people half way around the world they're welcome to it. Personally, I think they have bigger problems than what some clown in Alabama thinks of them.

Whatever works for you bunky.
 
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That vs seeing videos on Youtube?

Take a guess which is more credible?

Yes, South Africa has its troubles. The problem is, there is a LOT of white supremacist propaganda mixed with factual information coming out of South Africa and EVERY damn White supremacist org is putting out South Africa propaganda.

South Africa is a bit of a mess because they have had single party control for too long. The ANC is massively corrupt. And in a last ditch effort as they are losing power the ANC is siding with the radical EFF and touting land appropriation and nationalization of land in an attempt at their own version of the GOP Southern Strategy. To pit blacks against white and poaint the opposition as white controlled.

They are losing. The ANC won't last much more than 2 or 3 more election cycles as the primary power. The DA is poised to take control of the eastern Cape. They already have control of the west.

We'll see. Yes, SA has their problems, but a LOT of the FUD you hear is white supremacist fear mongering.

It's a shithole just like anything else in the area -

But keep pandering as if you have been there and know what it's like. The hypocrisy is rather hilarious. Why don't you take your next summer vacation out there ol' chap?

Or you know... you can just keep staying in your safe space...
 
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It's a shithole just like anything else in the area -

But keep pandering as if you have been there and know what it's like. The hypocrisy is rather hilarious. Why don't you take your next summer vacation out there ol' chap?

Or you know... you can just keep staying in your safe space...

Damn but you be dumb:

"My wife is South African and we spend 2-3 months a year in the Western Cape. "

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EDIT: Poorly worded perhaps. Just in case there is some confusion, the quote is of Amused.
 
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Commodus

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It's a shithole just like anything else in the area -

But keep pandering as if you have been there and know what it's like. The hypocrisy is rather hilarious. Why don't you take your next summer vacation out there ol' chap?

Or you know... you can just keep staying in your safe space...

On top of Amused managing to own you quite thoroughly, my South African girlfriend is still enthusiastic about returning with me to her homeland for vacations. Kruger Park, the Cape, Durban... they all have their charms. The country has its serious problems, but those who've lived there would rightly kick your cowardly ass for calling it a "shithole."
 
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Amused

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I read every one of those links, one actually had something to do with the topic at hand. You claim I'm uninformed, yet you clearly aren't reading what I'm writing. This only works if we're on the same topic.

The fact that they ALL have everything to do with the entire creation of this thread is clearly over your head.

Your cluelessness is intentional.
 
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Amused

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It's a shithole just like anything else in the area -

But keep pandering as if you have been there and know what it's like. The hypocrisy is rather hilarious. Why don't you take your next summer vacation out there ol' chap?

Or you know... you can just keep staying in your safe space...

You fail at reading comprehension. In a previous post in this thread I explained how my wife is South African and we spent 2-3 months in the western cape every year. We regularly take road trips around the country.

Would you like to see pictures?
 
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